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Do they teach Drongo?
I hope not.
One Drongo is enough for me to handle!
But two?
*Shudder*
This teacher probably has a whole class full of Drongos.
À propos Drongo, where is that crazy talker? It’s been quiet. Too quiet…
It’s scary quiet…
I hope Drongo didn’t get into some sort of trouble.
Drongo is like…an ugly pet Chihuahua dog to Failbookers.
Won’t stop yipping, kinda unwanted by newcomers and such, but we still appreciate and love it…
Would someone PLEASE think of the children!?!?
hehe you made me laugh
I prefer to think of him as one of those hairless cats… you keep him around because you just don’t think he could make it out in the real world… So we just let him keep thinking he’s cute while keeping him away from mirrors and don’t forget to top up his troll dish…
Peekeys booe’s..
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
*AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!
Do they teach Drongo as a student or Drongo as a language?!
I did my dissertation on Drongo.
A Drongotation, if you will.
Wiff speellin’s lyke dattes u fayelled…
You are a fake! The real one would of had only 1 f in wiff and multiple 1′s and !’s at the end along with a slurry of insults.
I see what you did there …
WHERE is Drongo anyway? Haven’t seen him a few days now.
Probably got a job finally.
I guess that’s good, those toilets aren’t going to clean themselves!
maybe in some ditch.. feeding worms…
or scaring them off…
A trip to a land with no internet, perhaps?
Is Drongo supposed to be typing in an accent or just messed up spelling?
What/who’s a Drongo?
You will soon find out, Child.
(draamettices enturenced)……..bowwe’s twooe de ordeiances..annede seys *lowderley* Tiss eye’d de antea grandma’se nasteyies..dee defenndear offes these tiepoo..dee chammpeone ov de illitterattie, dee makkure ov wurdes annede thee breastt’s fing u sean alles deys……………;?
WHAT
I used to work in a bookstore and one day a woman was buying a book for her daughter: Little House on the Prarie. She asked me, ‘This is based on the TV show, right?’
Dear God…
I know right, I was happy when they finally made a movie and then books about the Lord of the Rings mmo.
Win!
I had a student who was surprised to find out that there was a text called “Gray’s anatomy”. *headdesk*
I went to the library to borrow that, specifying i wanted the book. The Librarian gets me the annual of the tv show. *facepalm*
Now I can’t remember why I wanted to be an English teacher… I’m afraid for my future sanity.
You should be afraid…Extremely afraid, my dear friend.
The worst part of being a teacher is dealing with the parents…
I’m not even a teacher, but I sure know parents are the meanest dumbest most selfish creatures walking on Earth!
You meet them and then you totally pity the class clown even if he/she angered you like mad every school day…
You meet them and you suddenly want to adopt their kids to spare ‘em from such piece of garbage…
If you can’t stand stupid people doing stupid stuff, high school teacher was probably a bad career decision!
So true
he didnt say he cant stand stupid people…. he was just using his facebook page to entertain the others
Yea he should be a college professor where they are clearly smarter.
Not.
You’re an idiot.
Well… they suppose to be…
*supposed.
kthxbai.
*They’re
*they’re
they ARE supposed to be…
Steve’s post was apparently intended to be a response to switchboard_7, but he could not find the Reply button.
Posting examples as this shows how badly we are STILL neglecting education in the US, as well as how badly education is de-valued by parents and students alike. Kudos to the teacher for these posts; they are a call to action.
Posts like this are why we need to bring back corporal punishment and stop molly-coddling these kids’ “self-esteem.” Time to start embarrassing the dumb ones to the average ones work harder
If Tommy “Thumb-tack” from one of these posts was drug in front of the class and subjected to ridicule for his stupidity, perhaps he would try to be a little less ignorant. Or he would go “emo” and kill himself. Either way society at large would benefit.
BRING BACK THE “BOARD” OF EDUCATION!!!!!!!
Instead of smacking these children for their stupidity we need to start smacking their parents for not getting involved early enough in the child’s life so that they do not become so stupid. The schools are ONLY there to teach the children about what is in the books. It is the parent’s job to deepen this knowledge and offer the child other knowledge that one cannpt find in the books.
Parents nowadays think that it is the school’s job to raise their children as well.
So much this. It’s not the kids’ fault their parents are complete and utter idiots.
I agree. Parents are lazy, self-absorbed idiots these days. However, if society didn’t make it so hard to be a parent, maybe they’d be tougher on their kids.
I spanked my 5 y.o. son in the store the other day for trying to climb the shelves. I told him twice to knock it off, but he was very hyper that day and needed a good swat to the butt to get his attention. One of the workers retrieved her manager to politely tell me that was not acceptable behaviour in the store…my spanking my child, who didn’t even cry over the swat…and quit climbing the shelves. I couldn’t believe it when he threatened to call the police if I did it again. A WTF moment.
It takes a bunch of village idiots to tell the parent just what they can and cannot do to their child and then b*tch when the kids turn out to be useless!
The problem is that the people seeing you correcting your child think you did this OMGLIEKEVRYTIEM, something I highly doubt you do. A good spanking when enough is obviously enough is NOT child abuse in any way. Public places are perhaps not the best places, but usually stuff always happens at the worst time.
The younger generation is getting weaker and weaker if they can’t handle good-measured discipline.
If I concede that it’s your right to discipline your child in the manner stated for behaviour that you did not want continued, will you concede that it’s the store’s right to admonish you in the manner stated for behaviour that they did not want continued, as you said, “in the store”?
This is so right. Spanking your kid once for doing something ridiculous in the living room is not the same thing as doing it at the store. Last time I worked at a retail store we had to do the exact same thing.
No. I believe in being the same person in public as you are in your home. To hide how you punish your child indicates shame in my opinion.
I don’t think it has anything to do with shame. In my own home I enjoy not wearing pants, but I don’t drop my trousers outside. How does someone who does not know the family or situation discern whether it is just a one-time thing or a simply precursor to a full-on beating? And while a store is a “public place” the business owner has every right to choose what people are allowed to do in their place of business… It seems far more rational to request that a parent doesn’t cause a scene than to call the cops every time someone raises a hand to their child.
It is also very arguable how beneficial spanking (and the like) is but I’m not here to preach.
You can’t choose to act or not to act based on what those around you might believe of your actions. If you don’t discipline your child, people will confront you and tell you to control your brat. If you decide that spanking is the best way to discipline your child, you shouldn’t be barred from doing it in public if your child needs corrected because it is a controversial punishment.
And you CAN tell, if you’re paying attention, the difference between a spanking and a precursor to a beating (usually).
If a store owner is going to react that way to a spanking, they ought to react that way to any punishment. As a customer, I would leave the merchandise I had planned to purchase and never return again.
And, I don’t spank my daughter. Sitting her in a chair is all the correction she needs to behave.
Personally, I am far more bothered by the screaming parent than the misbehaving child. Kids will be kids, but adults should know better. It’s just rude. Punishment can just as easily be put off as long as you follow through with it in the end (e.g. “if you keep doing blank then you wont get to watch TV for a week”), no need to involve everyone that’s just trying to grab some milk and get out of dodge…
And while you can often tell, it shouldn’t be up to a cashier to make that call. And most employees would stop a couple from fighting loudly in the aisles just as fast as they would stop kids from hitting each other with rolls of wrapping paper or a parent from punishing their child in a way that disrupts the public.
Kids who are at an age where they can associate their conduct from hours ago to the time of actual punishment are probably at an age where spanking is no longer effective.
And the parent attempting to discipline his/her child isn’t involving the public, the public is involving themselves.
And, again, I don’t spank my child, but I don’t see a problem with it. I try not to judge parents in public because I know how hard the job is. Parents shouldn’t have to be afraid to discipline their children.
Yeah, you can’t really delay punishment for a kid who is under 3 or 4. What difference does it make to a 2 year old if you tell them they don’t get dessert in 6 hours or can’t watch Dora tomorrow? They can understand a lot, but that’s probably pushing it.
“You can’t choose to act or not to act based on what those around you might believe of your actions.”
Are you not endowed by the Creator with free will?
Why do I think these same people that are screaming that you shouldn’t spank in public because it makes people uncomfortable have no problems with breast feeding in public?
As far as I’m concerned, a store is a public place. If you are going to cater to every dumbass who walks through the store and lets their child scream for an hour over a candy bar, then I don’t understand why I can’t punish my child however I want to in your store.
There is a line, obviously, between disciplining your child and beating them abusively. This is a large, bold black line. It is the difference between controlled, calm swats and screaming, uncontrolled anger.
If I had a store manager tell me that I was not allowed to discipline my child in his store – in essence, telling me how I was and was not allowed to raise my child – I would immediately boycott his establishment. Probably for the rest of whatever. And I would tell other people, so they could similarly boycott the establishment if they so chose.
This PC bullsh*t has gone far enough.
People,
1) There is a huge difference between spanking a child and beating a child. Spanking a child is a brief instance of discipline where as a beating is a brutal act that often occurs with rage.
2) Tor2ga did the right thing in giving her kid’s bottom a smack, rather than letting him fall from a height and kill himself or bust his head open. That would have been neglect.
3) There are other ways to discipline children that are considered more “socially” acceptable, but it was only recently that “spanking” became taboo. I am only in my early twenties and I used to get spanked as a child when I did wrong. It wasn’t abuse. But my parents only used that when nothing else would work (as in Tor2ga’s case) when I was really young. The forms of reinforcement and punishment that can be used on a child differ with age. You can’t tell a five-year-old “if you don’t stop, you can’t watch Dora today.” Children at and below five and most animals have the same mentality. Which means, punishment or reinforcements of behavior have to occur immediately.
4) And if you all want to get really technical, spanking isn’t a punishment. It’s a negative reinforcement because you are giving something that is not desired as a reaction to a behavior.
5) Finally, how a person raises and disciplines their child is completely up to them and we have no right to tell them how to do it or otherwise. All we can do is make our own opinions on child-rearing and raise our children the way we feel they should be raised.
Please excuse any typos or grammatical errors. I am a sleep-deprived college student. Thank you.
Ha Ex-Psych Minor, I love how we used the same example.
And no, spanking is not negative reinforcement–(straight from my pscyh notes) negative reinforcement means REMOVING aversive stimulus to INCREASE a behavior, which is the exact opposite of spanking.
Spanking=adding aversive stimulus (hopefully…) to decrease a behavior, which means it is positive punishment, aka punishment.
Actually, I think that both of these approaches are required at this point…
What????? My parents are supposed to support me in school and make sure that I learn what common sense is??????
Corporal punishment no, humiliation F’ING YES. Coddling students is EXACTLY why we have stupid, lazyf**kers. The bar is set pathetically low and that’s why these kids can get away with goofing off.
cutting class sizes down to a manageable size would do more good than beatings or humiliation, but too many Americans seem to prefer low taxes over smart kids.
Right let’s throw more money at the problem. That seems to work SOOOOOOO well. Let us look at some school districts with slightly less than stellar performance and graduation rates:
District of Columbia (per pupil per year) $28,170 — 155% HIGHER than private schools in the same area
Chicago (per pupil per year) $15,875 — 79% HIGHER than private schools in same area
Houston Houston (per pupil per year) $12,534 — 33% HIGHER than private schools in the area
Los Angeles (per pupil per year) $25,208 — 201% HIGHER than private schools in the area
Yea. Let’s spend MORE money. That will fix it. Because spending 301% of market rates for private schools just ain’t enough. A sobering 27 cents of every dollar collected at the state or local level is consumed by the government-run K–12 education system. American citizens are being kept in the dark on education spending, and this imposed ignorance affects the policy and political environment.
Maybe school vouchers have some actual value? Make the schools compete? Wait, that sounds like one of those crazy TEA-Party ideas.
SOURCE CITED
http://www.cato.org/pubs/pas/pa662.pdf
the CATO Institute
Private schools compete for the best students, or more likely, for the best student/parent packages. When you begin with better materials, maybe you can make better product for less money added.
The easy way for public schools to improve their scores without spending more money is just to deny entry to students who don’t “make the cut”. If they’re not allowed to follow that business plan, then comparing them to those that can is not very illuminating.
Part of the problem might be that ignorance and distrust of education begets same. Vouchers might decrease that, if not because it makes schools compete against each other, then perhaps because it encourages buy-in from the parents and children.
I don’t know; it’s a complicated problem.
So then, you are suggesting that the biggest advantage of school vouchers is that the parents (and somewhat so the students) would be FORCED into participating? They would be required to actually evaluate the differences among the available options and select based on their desired goals. Being forced to decide might actually make some of them – students and parents – actually make goals and act upon them. Where available the participating students and parents might be willing to “kick-a-buck” to get the best.
[Bonus points to anyone who can tell me where "kick-a-buck" quote comes from.]
Conversely the biggest drawback is that is would coalesce the bottom of the performance group, or the non-participating students, into virtual cesspools of failure? Once the cesspool begins to fill with the sewage of humanity it becomes increasingly difficult to
1) clean the cesspool to use for anything other than waste
2) differentiate between the waste and the unlucky.
Before a troll tries to correct my use of “among” in the first paragraph: between is use for 2, among is used for 3 or more.
“So then, you are suggesting that the biggest advantage”
I think I agree with most or all the above, except the quoted passage because it employs a superlative where I would not. I’m not sure it’s the biggest advantage, but I’d agree it’s a hypothetical advantage.
Are you aware that private schools are not held to any sort of standard?
Literally. No standards.
They can have shorter school years and shorter days (saving on both employee salaries and utilities) and are not required to have the same sorts of staff public schools have (read: help for students with special needs). They don’t have to run busses. They don’t have to work with as large a student base (read: less area, smaller facilities, fewer employees).
I do not comprehend how you think comparing private school to public school is effective. Comparison only makes sense when the things you are comparing are similar.
Private school supporters: I am not saying all private schools all do all these things, or that all of them are even bad– just saying the comparison is unfair.
No standards? Hmmm, that must be why students in private schools
perform better on standardized tests,
perform better socially,
have lower incidences of “speehshul needs” (read: ADHD kids have lower symptoms with no meds, and disciplinary kids get their heads knocked),
draw from LARGER geographic areas,
and DO run buses (just a a fee which is very close to municipal public transportation).
The only unfair comparison of Private and Public Screw-alls is that, as domerdaver ^^ points out, private schools compete for the best and deny access to the worst.
It might sound like eugenics, but at some point the best job some people are going to have involves asking “paper or plastic.” I would not even want these people to have a shovel job digging ditches. I personally worked a shovel job – Laborers Local 1290 (Kansas City, Kansas). Many of the people in this teacher’s classes would not be able to figure out which end of the shovel does what. NONE of them would be dedicated enough to actually use a shovel. Don’t let these dummkopfs destroy the rest of society. Give them a vest, name-tag, and a pricing gun; give them their cable TV and their pot; sedate, suppress, and scorn them.
Accuse me of eugenics. Hate me for being so prejudiced. But admit the there is a whimsy of truth in what I have said.
You stray from the topic.
You compared money. I pointed out all the reasons it is less expensive to run a private school. I’m not talking about test scores or shovels. Also, I like that you say there are fewer kids with special needs as proof that private schools are better in the same breath that you point out that private schools can reject anyone for any reason.
Also, most students at private schools have better financial and social situations from birth than the general population, so there went the rest of your argument.
“Are you aware that private schools are not held to any sort of standard?
Literally. No standards.”
Your presentation about the expenses (buses, special programs etc.) might have been more effective had you framed it as such, instead of straying from the topic by mentioning standards.
“I’m not talking about test scores”
Test scores are standards. You brought it up. Fact is that private schools are held to standards by those paying tuition.
So, private schools start with better raw material (which actually isn’t at all raw by the time they get it), and some of their expenses are borne by the public schools. Do we all agree?
Ah, see, you’ve raised the key point. “Private schools are held to standards by those paying tuition.” It’s basically true that they aren’t (legislatively) held to any sort of standard…teachers don’t even have to be certified in many (if not all) of them. But people won’t pay to send their kids to a school that isn’t any good. In essence, they’re held to a more real standard, one with direct involvement rather than government nonsense.
Also, parents of public schools don’t hold them to the same standard. Sometimes it’s because they don’t care, sometimes it’s because they feel it doesn’t matter (the school won’t change no matter what they think, which is probably mostly true). There’s no real accountability. It doesn’t matter if any given student does well; the school loses nothing, as long as the test scores are adequate. If a private school student isn’t doing well, the school stands to lose thousands of dollars tuition if their parents decide to remove them.
C-C-C-COMBO BREAKERRRRRRR
WOW some of the conversations here belong somewhere else…
Yes, more money should be spent on K-12 programs. Or, as others have mentioned, more of the money we already put towards education needs to actually be used on education. And, more opportunities and options need to be offered to public school students.
I was lucky that I went through a theatre program and an honors program in high school, because it gave me a lot more. But I could have done with a little more from the outside world. I had to pay for my own summer reading books and for some of the books I used in the school year. Now, it is normal for a student to have to pay for there own books that the school should be supplying. A lot of states use the lottery to help pay for education. But very little of that money is actually used for education.
Additionally, more guest speakers need to be brought into schools and into classrooms to try and show these kids what there is out there. There are plenty of college students, graduate student and people who do this for volunteer work, not to mention the fact that most government facilities and associations have employees that are paid to do community outreach. Students need to be able to see a direct point as to why a subject even has any relevancy. I hated science as a high school student and math. Now, I am less than a year away from graduating with my B.S., a decision made in college. And I spend hours going to local k-12 public schools and talking about marine biology, what you can do with it, and bringing things into the class for the kids (like shark dissections and fiddler crab hormone experiments). There are tons of us out here that are willing to come in and talk to kids if you let us.
And regarding private schools: this is a parent’s decision (a student’s at a later time) and willingness to put out globs of money for their child’s education (not a bad thing). They only get minor help from the government. Most of the revenue is from prices. My aunt (who is blind) paid about 10,000/year for her granddaughter who she is raising (because her son is a no-good deadbeat) to go to a private school starting at pre-K and going to 1st grade. Yeah, private schools don’t use a lot of government money. Not at those prices.
Oh, and by the way. I noticed no one has mentioned the fact that there are 308 million+ people in our country alone. Yeah, it will be expensive to pay for education (and it already is to some extent), but if we want to catch up with some of the other countries, it’s worth it.
The problem doesn’t lie with the schools or the classroom sizes. The problem lies with parents’ complete lack of interest in their children’s schooling.
I remember when I got home from school in elementary and middle school, my mother and I would go over what assignments I needed to complete. I would complete them and then we would go over them together and she would explain my errors to me.
Except in the winter. I was allowed to go outside to play before completing my homework due to the shortness of daylight.
It is much more difficult for parents to be involved anymore for several factors: plain selfishness, laziness, single parents working two jobs, or traditional families where both parents have to work and have less time to spend tending to their families.
Teachers are the least appreciated most underpaid profession on the planet.
“Teachers are the least appreciated most underpaid profession on the planet.”
I don’t know about that…I see all sorts of “thank a teacher” bumper stickers and “#1 teacher” coffee cups, and they make around $50k/year (here, at least), which is the national average.
What about janitors? Think how awful life would be if there weren’t any janitors. Business people, lawyers, doctors, and teachers would all have to take out their own trash, vacuum/mop their own floors, clean their own bathrooms. Plus, it would be a big blow to productivity (and the economy) because time would be taken from those people doing the job they were hired for. But when was the last time you thanked a janitor? Most people probably never have. Most people probably tend to forget they exist. And how much are they getting paid? Usually around minimum wage, or less than $20k/year.
A couple of the teachers I had in high school went out of their way for the janitorial staff, and made their students clean up after themselves as much as possible. For band, whenever we went anywhere, the rule was “leave it cleaner than you found it” because otherwise someone would have to clean up after you (this was partly due to it not being fair to the cleaning people, and partly due to it making us look bad).
Nah, Americans prefer a government that could manage money better than they do. That’s what happens when you elect officials with no background in running a business.
Instead of cutting out education funds and giving themselves huge pay raises, perhaps the Federal and State governments could try trimming their own waistlines instead of hacking away at all of the working folks who already have enough to worry about without tax increases.
The State of California budgets approximately $1.2 million dollars a year PER CHILD in the public school system. Now, just where does that money actually go? I just spent the past two weeks fund-raising for my kid’s class just to buy additional paper, school supplies, and a field trip to a local area farm. The teacher doesn’t even get enough money to buy paper for worksheets!
Americans don’t prefer lower taxes over better education. That’s a jerk-type comment to make. They prefer the money they are already forking over to be used better.
Please reference above cited CATO Institute publication. Dollar amount you note is erroneous.
I was going easy on the State budget, assuming there were quite a few grants shipped out to the various schools, amongst other uses unbeknownst to me. If you take the K-12 budget (let’s use the finalized one from 2009) for the Department of Education, then divide by the number of students enrolled throughout the state, you get approximately $8.4 million dollars per kid. That’s a crude way of doing it, I’ll admit, but it just seems to be quite a bit of money going to the “Education Program” in the state. All of this is posted publically if you do some simple searching and calculating.
Just trying to point out that even if the various governments raised taxes, it doesn’t necessarily mean the citizens that cough up that money are actually going to see it come back to them in ways that better their lives. The top cats that do the “budgeting” always seem to be living like hogs.
There’s something obviously wrong with this statement. It doesn’t even pass a basic litmus test here. If there were $8.4 million going into the schools per child, then every single teacher, superintendent, and janitor would be multimillionaires. And as a couple of my siblings and friends are teachers, I can assure you this isn’t the case.
I believe you just proved my point! So where does all of this “budgeted” money for the Department of Education go, exactly? I understand there are tons of people in Administration and all that, but $8.4 million per kid is quite a bit of money.
No litmus paper required. Just the common public needing to do a little research to find out where their tax money is truly going.
I trust the CATO institute about as far as I can throw a house.
You do realize the US has the lowest taxes of any nation in the world, and STILL complains CONSTANTLY about them being to high? I don’t think saying Americans prefer lower taxes over better education is an entirely unfair sentiment.
The result of over coddling and ‘everyone is a winner’ leads to what are called ‘teacup children’. They are soiled, arrogant, and when they do something wrong, they fall apart because they cannot comprehend the consequences.
Or he could go psycho and shoot a bunch of kids at school. I’m sure that’d go over well with everyone.
School shootings is a rather recent phenomena, one of coddling students to much to not even evaluate them for serious mental disease because it might make the child “uncomfortable”. Back when corporal punishment was the norm, kids still misbehaved and drank before proms, but the overall performance of kids were much higher.
…And overall stnadards required to get good grades were lower. Students didn’t have access to guns and violence was not so prevalent in the media that a veritable blood-orgy on screen would have barely merited a “meh”.
Absolutely wrong. Things like art and literature may have not been as required, but math, science, and real life skills like woodshop, and even engineering was done. My dad took a class on automobile repair in the 60′s.
Guns were very prevalent, and there were fewer gun laws then. It’s not a gun issue, school shootings are a social issue.
@jjmblue7: Students didn’t have access to guns? Uh-huh. If anything access was easier overall. What IMO is wrong is that we’re raising too many kids to be narcissistic, and we’re treating rudeness as a virtue.
Does the 60s count as rather recent? I’m pretty sure they still had corporal punishment back then, AND school shootings.
*dragged
*Posts like this [illustrate] why we need to bring back corporal punishment [NOTE: Corporal punishment still is allowed in many states: http://school.familyeducation.com/classroom-discipline/resource/38377.html and stop molly-coddling these kids’ “self-esteem.” [It is time] to start embarrassing the dumb ones [so] the average ones [will] work harder[.]
If Tommy “Thumb-tack” [were dragged to the] front of the class and subjected to ridicule for his stupidity, perhaps he would try to be a little less ignorant. [Either that or] he would ["go emo"] and kill himself. Either way[,] society at large would benefit.
BRING BACK THE [BOARD] OF EDUCATION!!!!!!!
Can we get back to the fact that the teacher is funny? Or at least, entertaining? That’s all, folks.
Serious post: Doing stupid things is different from being stupid and not caring about or doing s**t. Parents don’t take responsibility for the education/raising of their children, that lack if family is what makes all these things he said happen. No amount of money thrown at the school system can fix this.
My condolences to this country..
You find this in EVERY country of the world. It is not specific to any nationality. I am not in the US and see the exact same thing here in Europe
I second this. Here in Austria it’s the same…If I was a teacher, I would need a good psychiatrist multiple times a week…it’s sad somehow.
So who sees this in Japan? Can’t help but notice you’re talking about “Anglo” countries.
Happens A LOT in Brazil.
There, see? Not an “anglo” country and we’re still in a knowledge shaithole down here.
Kind of comforted by the apparent fact that this happens outside the U.S. (Since I am from the U.S. and often feel ashamed of some of the other people who live here.) But at the same time, I am saddened that it is so widespread….
Me too. “Phew. It’s not just here. It’s outside too… Ah crap, it’s outside too.”
Yeah but Japan’s suicide rate is twice that of The United States.
You think the suicide rate is bad enough?
Check out “hikikomori” on Wikipedia or TV Tropes.
It’s not unique to Japan (my friends and I have had to help prevent another friend from snapping under academic pressure in a very similar manner, in the USA), but Japan does have the world’s highest rate of that and similar issues.
Tru dat. First time I ever saw a dead body – it was dangling from the dorms across the street.
That might be more of a cultural thing. In Japan, suicide is a more acceptable option than it is in other countries (look up seppuku).
Doesn’t happen in the South-East Asian countries either.
Austria’s anglo?
i no rite?
Misread for “Australia”, I guess…not a unusual thing…
Students in Québec often have no comprehension of the very notion of syntax and etymology, thus rendering their writing (and talking) abilities extemely weak. It is sad for the survival of French in Canada… Not sure how the English Canadians are doing, though.
A little better but not by much, although we might have possibly have levelled off with the French Canadiens since I’ve left high school (2 years ago) since things were seeming to be going downhill a lit quicker in my grade 12 and 5th years of high school. :/
But don’t get me started on the lack of appreciation of the French language here in the Anglophone provinces, at least here in Ontario.
Well part of the problem in the US is that proper grammar is not taught to our children in most schools.
That must of been the reason why none of them is learning it so good.
*That must be the reason none of them are learning it very well.*
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Problem?
I didn’t start learning grammar, even the simple comma rules, until 9th grade. I learned the differences between who’s/whose and that/which in that year, too. Pathetic, considering we start learning to write during first grade and kindergarten.
Really? I remember learning grammar all through elementary school. I hated 4th grade English because I’d heard enough about nouns in 1st grade and didn’t feel like continuing to identify them in sentences. We learned proper apostrophe usage in 1st grade (because I specifically remember the one no one EVER seems to get right, that if Chris has a house, it is Chris’s house, not Chris’ house), and I remember doing dependent and independent clauses and such (terms I never remember, but I know the usage) in 6th grade.
Hmm. Maybe my school was better than I thought.
I know what you mean. In 8th grade there were people who didn’t know what a noun was (only two of my friends and I knew, everyone else looked at our teacher with this blank stare). Also, apparently at the local high school the basic English class was learning what nouns and verbs were, these kids were in high school, and didn’t have a clue what a noun or a verb was.
this is depressing =(
I agree. Obviously, not ALL of the students at this high school have these problems, but seems like this school needs some help.
I don’t mean to be accusatory, but maybe this teacher should worry more about actually trying to help these kids instead of posting about it on his facebook just trying to get someone to comment on it.
How do you know that the teacher isn’t you arrogant fvck? Teachers have an impossible load of stress and I don’t blame this one for letting off steam. That doesn’t mean he isn’t working his ass off for those kids.
This is true. If he didn’t care, he wouldn’t have any steam to let off.
Venting is one thing. Actually making fun of the kids is another.
And when, if any time, is facebook an appropriate venue of venting unless you are just trying to draw attention to yourself?
What, who made you the arbiter of what’s appropriate for people to post on Facebook? Weaksauce.
I’m not saying that he’s not allowed to put it. My point is that he is just trying to draw attention to himself, which is not something that the students need. (Yes, I realize he didn’t name them. All I am saying is that these kids seem to have serious issues, somethings which I don’t think should be taken so lightly and brought up in this manner.)
Would you prefer the teacher cry over the students, instead? I find his ability to post this better for him as it allows him to laugh at every day occurrences and not sitting around mourning the failure and decline of society.
Why post a comment here unless you are trying to draw attention to your astute observations? Why do anything, including, but not limited to, read “funny” blogs? Loosen up and maybe you could laugh, Mr. “I can english and math real good”. Judging by your name, you must have a sense of humor locked in there somewhere.
I really don’t think it’s about drawing attention to himself in the first place. Neither to let off steam.
These days kids are more focused on their facebook pages and their bazillion facebook friends than on the stuff they have to learn at school.
Maybe it’s the only way that one of those morons might get a slight idea of what life will be like, if they don’t start learning…
Drawing their attention on their issues by trying to talk to them directly wouldn’t have any effect on them, cause teachers are stupid and uncool…but a facebook using techer…wow!
How is he trying to draw attention to himself? I occasionally let of some steam on Facebook, never do I try to draw attention to myself, and I am still haven’t graduated, obviously, you are speaking about your opinion and not the facts, if a kid can vent without trying to get attention, why would a teacher do it, he has a stressful job and I highly doubt you are correct.
Obviously you haven’t graduated because you fail to realize that there was no need for that “am” in between “I” and “still”. Keep trying bud.
Obviously they changed their mind about what they were going to say mid-sentence. It happens.
“…you fail to realize that there was no need.”
*failed.
Keep trying bud.
Maybe he’s using it as a tool. Maybe some of those parents may see something they or their kid said on his page and realize they need to do something.
If you call quoting the kids and parents without much subjective commentary “making fun” of them, then he’s doing that. Venting would probably be a lot meaner than this.
Depend on your definition of venting…
I admit some of these things are funny, and the parent one that he put is a valid complaint. As for his lack of “subjective commentary,” I see plenty. It’s always a matter of the subjective reading of it too that you must consider.
Alright, I’m done trying to discuss a serious matter on failblog. Haha should have realized otherwise
“Alright, I’m done trying to discuss a serious matter on failblog. Haha should have realized otherwise”
That’s weak.
This isn’t a serious matter. If the Teach were specifically calling out parents or students by name, then yes, there’d be a problem and it’d be serious. No one knows who the teacher is talking about. This is a frustration releaser and harmless. If we need to worry about how everyone else translates our comments the world would be boring and stressful.
S/He’s not making fun of the kids, s/he’d be naming them otherwise. S/He’s just despairing about the whole situation.
Not when you’ve decided to leave all your wall posts public.
Most likely the kids don’t CARE, and they probably never will. No teacher can force a kid to care about school if they’re determined not to. It is possible, of course, for a teacher to reach them, but it’s going to be a rare and amazing accident that changes that one student’s whole life, not “Gee, I’ll just try harder” and everyone goes “Oh, learning’s important!”
well, this guy is a bit of a whining prat, but these are still funny
Shaking hands with peoples, not people? Nice.
because you’ve never ever made a typo in your life…?
at least he/she remembered to make the word possessive.
Acutally, he typed Peoples’ <– note the apostrophe.
The possessive plural for People.
Actually what he wrote was “…shaking peoples` hands…”. Do you notice the little apostrophe?
shaking peoples’ hands
you douchebag
isn’t it possession ? He just wrongly put the apostrophe after the ‘s’.
He put the apostrophe in the right place. It’s a plural possessive.
In this case, the apostrophe BEFORE the s would be correct. “People” is already plural for “person,” so the apostrophe would have to be BEFORE the s and not AFTER.
Ifd the plural word for person was “persons,” then the apostrophe would need to go AFTER the s.
oh,look,an english teacher!
Oh, look, not an English teacher!
Actually, “people” and “persons” can be used interchangeably as the plural version of “person”. You just need to be consistent in your writing (i.e. not switch back and forth within the same text) and, when making it plural possessive, it would be “people’s” and “persons’”, with the apostrophe behind the “s”.
Then again, the American English language has some major differences from other English languages, so the rules to one land may not apply to another, obviously.
What Ila said.
People is NOT the plural for person. The plural IS “persons” (as in ‘person or persons unknown’). People is a collective noun referring to a group of individuals (usually with some connection to each other, like the American People). It gets used as a de facto plural for “person,” but it’s not the actual plural, so he’s correct in terms of grammar, if a bit colloquial in usage.
Um…still no. If we accept your statement that “people” refers to a collective group, then if the kid is shaking “peoples’ hands,” he is shaking the hands of multiple peoples…how do we interpret that? The Cherokee people, and the Sioux people, and the Navajo people (I went with Native American groups because that’s the most common usage of people in that context in the US)…that’s a whole lot of hand shaking.
As for your “people” versus “persons” point, the dictionary says otherwise. Looking at the word history for “people,” as given by dictionary.com, it appears that it meant persons from 1275, and didn’t mean a collective group until 1292.
Actually, it is people’s and not peoples’. in plural possessive you put an apostrophe at the end of the word only if it ends with an “s”.
however, “peoples” is a word. So the possessive form of “peoples” is “peoples’”.
“People” is a plural without an “s” on the end, though. The correct possessive is “people’s.” Just like the plural of “cactus” is “cacti,” so the plural possessive would be “cacti’s” instead of “cactis’.”
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‘Peoples’ is a word when people of different cultures are involved, and it is important to differentiate between them.
If you have say Caucasians, African-Americans, Chinese, and Indians in a room and you needed to emphasize the fact that they were of different origins, you’d use the world ‘peoples’.
Right. And I don’t believe that there is a situation in which the word “peoples” can be possessive, as those trying to claim that it’s correct appear to be saying.
There IS a situation in which it would be correct. It does NOT involve shaking hands with peoples (seriously, how does that even work?).
But, for example, many Native American tribes shared a common sign language. If each tribe is considered a people, then this would be the peoples’ sign language.
it’s ” peoples’ ” or “people’s”; meaning “the hand that belonged to those people”
No… “shaking peoples’ hands”… which is correct. Plural possessive. You wouldn’t write “shaking people hands” as this would make no sense.
Nice, indeed.
“People” is already plural. The “People’s Republic of China” is a good example of how to make it possessive.
We are making the word “people” possessive, which would make “people’s” correct. Just like saying “I’m going to steal those geese’s eggs”, not “I’m going to steal those geeses’ eggs.” Does that clarify it at all?
That’s actually correct. Learn grammar…then attempt to find fault with it.
ACTUALLY…
connotatively “people” refers to a group of human individuals with some defining characteristic, while “peoples” refers to multiple groups of people. so you would say “the people shopping at Walmart” or “the peoples of the African continent.”
likely, the teacher means “shaking the hands of several human individuals” which would make “peoples’ ” a typo and “people’s” correct.
what was that about learning grammar before attempting to find fault with it?
Beat me to it Switchboard, but well said!!
read so far into this thread only to see if anyone else noticed this. yay switchboard + c0mmonSense!
Switchboard WINS.
Aw, thanks guys.
Nope, it’s not correct. The possessive of “people” (which is the plural of person, surely you know!) is “people’s.”
“Peoples’” would be the possessive of “peoples,” the plural of “people” singular, which refers to a group, as in “They were a peaceful people” or “the native peoples of South America.”
So juhoi means that Cook’s sentence, as written, literally means the kid was shaking hands with peoples. Because his punctuation is wrong.
~~~~TEH MOAR YOU KNOW~~☆
SOOOO, how do you know he wasn’t at the U.N. Headquarters, shacking hands with all the peoples of the earth?
Then he would be shaking peoples’ hands.
~~~~IN bei seeeeee~~~~~~
I’ve just read the word “people” so many times it has lost all meaning to me. Thanks guys.
I’m peepin’ your peoples with my peepers
How do you go about “shacking” hands with people?? I’m scared of you.
Peoples’ hands meaning more than one person’s hand.
After skimming all these comments, the word “people” has no meaning to me anymore.
Liberals must be so proud of the educational system that they created.
At least liberals created an educational system…
I think you misunderstood lol
obviously.. because the kids of the conservatives do the stupid stuff listed by the teacher.
If you look at the implied race of the people in these posts (judging from the style of speech he’s imitating) I’d say these kids are from a group that voted 95% Obama. Just saying.
You are just saying words that imply ideas which should embarrass an educated, intelligent adult. We understand. Really, why bother educating certain types of people past grade 12?
Your shepherd must be so proud of his trained, tamed house animal.
No. I implied the teacher is using “black speech”.
African American’s have an abysmal drop out rate in most areas of the country. Many also adopt grammatically incorrect and often times incoherent speech, such a “Ebonics”.
Now, it was implied that these kids are all dumb rednecks, which could possibly be the case, but equally he could be teaching “urban” kids, which I feel is the more likely judging from the speech.
It’s called criticism. I know bleeding hearts like you hate to criticize people, but maybe that’s why our schools are so abysmal as they are.
“American’s” is a possessive, not a plural. So what does that say about your education level?
Not as much as your racist comments and frothing-at-the-mouth hatred for the left do.
I don’t think saying that someone who appears to be speaking in ebonics is probably black counts as racist.
Kids vote relatively seldom. Even for Obama.
“Kids” could also be in college. The majority of those individuals are younger than myself, therefore they are kids with the ability to vote.
No Child Left Behind.
That is all.
I love you.
You knew this would happen: I’m a high school teacher in an area that sounds *exactly* like this guy’s area. NCLB is really the only thing we have to blame. I went to the same HS where I currently teach and, I assure you, my teachers weren’t dragged into the principal’s office to discuss failure rates like I have been. God forbid our school look bad, although our attendance rates suck, our discipline is non-existent, and my kids flat-out tell me, “I ain’t workin’ today. Leave me alone.” Coddled and passed along. And, please read conservative’s comment below this one. They don’t want to learn. I can’t make them, not even with all the technological, “relevant,” sideshow-type materials they want me to work with.
I wrote a paper on how bad it is for our country. My teacher loved it. There are just too many children getting left behind this way, and education is no longer well rounded. It’s all about math and English. No more art, social science or anything FUN. No wonder kids hate school.
the best school in the world won’t help someone if they don’t want to learn
Nuff said. Good job.
Win.
Man I haven’t been able to say that in a while.
This is beyond depressing. Of course, this is what happens when schools place a higher priority on students throwing a ball around a field or a court than being able to read the rule book.
more like what happens when schools lower standards in order to push kids through vs either
1~ making them go to separate classes with teachers specifically trained to force them to study, thus letting the kids who *do* want to study learn as much as they can (i know in EU kids get sorted based on what they want to do and how smart they are…)
2~ giving up on them, sending them to ‘you screwed up your life, now learn to do min wage work’ tutorials thus saving the state lots of $$$ AND teachers their sanity (and the kids from having to ‘fight the man’ n’ all that >_>)
3~ making parents liable (like, legally) for the way they raised their children… so that they will finally start giving $0.02 about what their kid does (or not have any/give them up for adoption by ppl who WILL care)
Better yet, we need to start putting restrictions on childbearing. Why let people have child after child if they’re not going to bother teaching them basic life skills?
It’s been shown that sorting kids based on perceived skill level turns into somewhat of a self-fulfilling prophecy. The kids who get stuck in the lower groups (who are fully aware of it, no matter what you call it) tend not to put in as much effort because, hey, they’re stupid anyway, right? (Don’t even try to tell me most of them don’t think that.)
What a lot of countries do is have the more advanced students help the less advanced ones, which helps EVERYONE, because teaching others is both an effective learning tool and a good way to learn new skills, and it gives the students who are behind more of an opportunity to catch up, because there isn’t just one person (the teacher) helping all of them.
WRONG. This is what happens when you put more emphasis on “self-image” and “feeeeeelings” and “self-esteeeeeem” instead of
reading writing and arithmetic…. TAUGHT TO THE TUNE OF A HICKORY STICK!!!
BRING BACK THE “BOARD” OF EDUCATION!!!!
Oh. Dear. God. My generation is messed up beyond help.WHY PEOPLE WHY?
Have you listened to the music being pumped through commercial radio and the shows that are on TV? They essentially are forcing our generation to make stupid grammar mistakes like ‘I didn’t do nofink’. If they were going to say it correctly/properly, they should either be ‘I did nothing’ or ‘I didn’t do anything’ /rant.
Anyway, blame MTV for corrupting our generation’s speech and learning skills.
more like “blame parents for not being enough of an influence for their children” or “blame the economy for taking parents away from their children for 10 hours a day so they can sustain themselves” or “blame Bush for the hell of it.” I’m leaning towards the first option.
Why? It’s a free society and sometimes freedoms let you do things that are not good for you. Educate yourself and make rational thinking a priority. Think with your heart and your mind. Together, they make a pretty good team.
Mr Cook is a hero. Having to fight against that day in, day out must be hell. That, or this is fake. And for the sake of humanity, I beg that it is…
I don’t have any doubt that it’s 100% real. And scary. I can only hope my kids will be smarter than that.
Don’t just hope. You have to actually raise and teach your children to be better than that.
The kids being posted about by Mr. Cook are there because their parents relied on hopes and dreams to raise decent human beings.
^Win and Amen.
Umm, that’s actually grammatically correct, juhoi.
It’s called a “reply” button. Try it, it doesn’t hurt.
By the way, it’s not grammatically correct, unless he were addressing the U.N.
Reading is good. It’s helpful. But most of the best books not necessarily follows grammar and ortography by the rulebook, or are too old that have grammar, ortography and lexic that is no longer in use. I think it can be helpful for those with those who have personal problems (like that mom who doesn’t like school callings) but not necessarily to those who write without understanding.
“not necessarily follows grammar”
That pretty much sums up that statement, right there.
Your post problems, line by line.
Line one: best books DON’T necessariy follow
Line two: *orthography and delete the comma after rulebook. This isn’t a compound sentence.
Line three: *orthography *lexicon ? (Maybe? what the hell are you trying to say?
Line five: to- *for
Just thought you should know.
Of course I misspelled the word “necessarily.”
That’s because I’m a missundestood genious.. >_>
Did it again, you see what I did?? =P
Yes, and the collective Internet despaired.
let me just point out, genius, that your chosen username is “potblessed.”
And also, *misunderstood *genius.
Now, now. At least I’ve learned that “Reading is good” and that “It’s helpful”. I was beginning to wonder about the dangers of reading and had been considering ablative brain surgery to destroy that cognitive function. Scared to death, I was! It’s too bad I don’t have more personal problems to make the reading more helpful, though. Now excuse me while I go make parent callings. They write without understanding and I need to tell them to stop reading because it’s not necessarily helpful.
…this is while the whole world thinks the USA is uneducated
“this is while”… rofl.
what’s “rofl” about that?
seems like a pretty correct observation to me, I certainly cwathedidthar
And where did it say in those posts this guy is from the US?
The only evidence that he is from the US is where he said “mom” and he could still easily be Canadian.
There are no bad schools or stupid people anywhere but in the States, didn’t you know?
“This is why,” you mean?
*Looks back at the science jokes to restore my faith in humanity*
So, a neutron walks into a bar and orders a drink. He asks the bar keep, “how much?” the bar tender replies, “for you, no charge.”
The tachyon leaves. The bartender says “We don’t serve your kind here.” A tachyon walks into a bar.
i’ll be honest, i had no idea what a tachyon was. upon reading it on wiki, a lol-fest ensued.
Hahah, same here.
l2StarTrek!
A Physicist, a Biologist, and a Mathematician are sitting in a cafe, watching an empty building. They see 2 people enter the building, then 3 people leave.
The Physicist says “our observations must be faulty”
The Biologist says “They must have reproduced”
The Mathematician says “if 1 person enters, the building will be empty again”
I’ve heard it before, but I still laughed. I love math logic.
I weep for our future.
*offers tissue*
Hang in there, buddy.
Capitalizing sentences and names? Good greif. I learned doing that when I first learned to write. It’s sad that high school students need to be reminded of that.
My generation is so, so sad.
*grief
Ah. You got me there.
One of those words I can never get right.
“I” before “e”, except after “c”.*
*And sometimes “y”.
…Or when it sounds like “a” as in “neighbor” and “weigh”.
What about seize?
‘Weird’ always trips me up.
And what ever happened to Cursive Writing!
I go to school with many people who don’t know how to read cursive. Which is a frightening prospect when you realize some of the teachers like to leave comments in lovely cursive script.
I learnt cursive in the third grade. As a high school junior, the only times I’ve used it since that fateful week have been on the ACT and for a couple of applications.
We started learning it in second grade, but I don’t think we really had to know it until 3rd. Most people never used it after elementary school and completely freaked out when they saw you’re supposed to write your SAT essay in cursive.
However, that is actually supposed to give you a slightly better score due to the scorer unconsciously perceiving you as more intelligent, or whatever. So it’s probably worth knowing how to do, even though some people’s proctors (not mine) told them they didn’t have to use cursive.
I write in a strange combination of cursive script and print…it was a lot of fun to teach my handwriting recognition software!
This is why our students are so far behind the students of other developed countries. I say we should stop making school mandatory, let the ones who want to be there get an education without having to worry about the uninterested, disruptive ones, and the teachers can teach without having to spend the majority of the class writing referrals and quieting the students. It would pretty much be like natural selection, and the stupid ones could go be homeless and die in the gutter, and the ones who can follow the rules and learn could get their diplomas, go on to college, and have decent careers.
^^ FAIL
You’ve never been in an italian school, did you ?
It isn’t so different, there are just more “pizza” and “cazzo” thrown in the mess.
I really hope you are being sarcastic.
Truthfully, I believe that will lead to a bunch of lazy, individuals. Because no one would go to school except for a select few (emphasis on the few). If I had the choice to stay and home and do whatever I wanted instead of work, I certainly would choose that. Obligation and structure can lead to fruitful results (based on many studies that say so).
Yes, much of the day is spent writing referrals and so on, but there is such a thing as Honors Classes and better schools for students that wish to learn and strive at doing so. These lead to less disruptive environments in which teachers can actually teach. The goal here is to get these disruptive classrooms in order and spark an interest in these students to get them to learn.
Wouldn’t disagree more. China and Cuba have an obligatory school and they are strong with the students. School i a serious responsability for them. By the moment they leave High School, they have plenty of knowledge. When they graduate from University, they are practically the best of their assignement.
Not saying that the rest of the countries should go out and become socialists, wich would be a very very wrong idea for those of us who love freedom of speech and liberty in general, but making school mandatory is probably the only thing that makes US and many other countries to not have an intellectual collapse, if we take the fact (and let’s get realistoc) most of the people do not like to go to school.
What you need is to have harder teaching, harsh, almost dictatorial teaching. Go back to uniforms, to have more importance to arts and science than the footbal and cheerleading teams, and a strong policy about assistance, homeworks, practics, bullying, school behaviour, grades, because today’s school problems are the dull teachers. My two cents.
TYPOS!!! >_<
Err..socialism doesn’t imply lack of freedom. Take a look at the democratic socialist countries of Scandinavia. China and Cuba are communist in name only. For all intents and purposes, China is a one party totalitarian capitalist system, and if Marx was around he’d cry at the butchery of his dream. Cuba tried, but failed badly. Even Fidel Castro admits it.
So learn what socialism is, please, before you go about maligning it. You do have a point about North American students not valuing their education, however. I think it comes from the idea that people are inherently good or bad at things like math or language. There’s actually no real gender differences between the two, and the reason why girls are bad at math and science is society enforcing those conceptions. There are slight differences, but not enough to matter. If society put more emphasis on how important education is, students would be better.
Thank goodness I went to a small catholic high school, where the education was top notch and the people who didn’t care just didn’t go, or were shipped off to the trade school.
RE: China – Marx wouldn’t have agreed with Chinese style communism even in it’s infancy. It *started out* as a departure from Marx-style communism.
Er failed? The UK has been socialist for the better part of 11 years and it’s been working great…
LOL!! You call the UK a success?? The last I checked, the UK was fiscally broke, and is currently cutting ~ 19% of all government funding…
All socialist and comunist countries were and are socialist just by name. Socialism is an utopic system that never went to practice succesfully. When I say that it would attempt against our “freedom of speech and liberty in general”, I’m talking about the practice in now and then days. Besides, last time I checked, UK was still a monarchy, so what true socialism is there?
Either way, are you all missing the point?? This wasn’t about socialism, but the education in non-socialist countries.
Socialism is an economic system, not a political one.
“Socialism is an economic and political theory advocating public or common ownership and cooperative management of the means of production and allocation of resources.” (Wikipedia)
Or, if you don’t like me using Wikipedia as a source…generally economic systems are also political ones, or have equivalent/partner ones (source: high school civics class).
I liked this post quite a bit.
There is more to education that collage and university. You….You do know that, right?
Hey now, I like making collages!
WIN!
this is so true. i teach hs english, in a state known for its high educational standards, and i get this kind of think all the time.
one of the reasons we are well known for our policies is that we had a high-stakes test long before that failed “no child left behind” policy mandated it. and yet…
our school sends a policeman to the house of truant students on the day of the test. they can come in, be arrested for truancy, or sign dropout papers on the spot. there’s usually one a year.
one student came in after staying up until 4am on internet chatrooms, chugging an iced coffee. he fell asleep during the test, and i was told by my supervisor that it was only an issue if he drooled on it, otherwise he could choose to fail.
and then there was the AP student who wrote an essay about how donald trump couldn’t buy the local mall and turn it into a casino because then she wouldn’t have anywhere to buy cute boots, and this was unacceptable. this was supposed to be an analytical essay regarding current events. what paper she got her info from wasn’t published in this reality…
About the last part… THAT WAS AN AP STUDENT!?
woah…. she needs cute boots, and fashion is a current event….
You teach High School English? I think I may have found the problem.
no offense to Bjorn, but i have to agree with Darth Herpes.
Actually, if you’re going to leave a comment with being an English teacher as your defense, then at least have the decency to use proper spelling and grammar. Otherwise, you just look like an @ss.
I’m guessing GA!!!
What happened to the good old days when kids were scared to do something wrong in class? Am I the only one that remembers the big wooden paddle?? And then walking home or riding the bus home, terrified, because I knew I was getting the switch as soon as I walked in the door too? My parents sent me to school to LEARN, and I was taught to be respectful of all adults, especially my teachers. I wouldn’t dream of being disrespectful to my elders to this day!! I raised my children the same way I was raised. They dreaded the days the school ever had to call home on them, and thankfully, it was few and far between.
If you are an English teacher, why are none of your sentences capitalized?
We had a teacher who made us call our parents at work every time we displeased her. My mom was usually in surgery, so one of her staff would have to hold the phone up to her while she talked through her mask. It got old. You really shouldn’t go bothering parents at work every time their kid’s being a brat. Schools have their own disciplinary measures for a reason.
Er, that is to say, I agree with the “stupid” mom in comment #3. Besides, if it’s a public school, the kid is probably being “disruptive” because he’s understimulated, and/or has special needs that aren’t being met.
and see, it’s you “blame the school” types that are fueling the problems in public education. the majority of the time, kids are disruptive at school because they come from a home life that doesn’t demand respect for adults, place a high value on education, and/or feel the need to actively be parents (note: this is different from being gene donors and then doing the minimum necessary to stay out of trouble for neglect). placing blame on teachers/administrators only serves to teach your kids that they’re not accountable for their own actions.
Thank you
I agree that parents need to do more to keep their little hellions under control, but deferring to the parents any time a kid acts up in class doesn’t teach responsibility and citizenship either.
Everyone wants to think of schools as magical houses of happiness that nurture the guardians of tomorrow or some such BS, but that isn’t reality. I was placed in a physically and psychologically abusive special-ed program because my behavior (“weird” for most people, pretty normal for an autistic kid) was considered disruptive. And I continued to act out, because I was bored out of my mind being force-fed remedial curriculum while my aptitude scores were far above average. Schools can and do make mistakes. I don’t understand why everyone wants to excuse them.
Your experience is not common. I’d be interested to know when you graduated HS. We have to abide by inclusion now and, to be honest, I’d sh*t myself if we had a parent aware enough to even test their child for autism.
Please understand, the schools are being dangled over a chasm, the feds holding tight to their shriveled little administrative testicles. The schools’ biggest problem is, “If they can’t reach the standards, that’s okay…we’ll just LOWER them!”
I am so sorry you weren’t given the mods and attention you deserved. It does happen. There are so many reasons for it but, truly, it all comes down to NCLB and what the feds have done to us.
Our school districts want clones; teachers who will mindlessly comply with what the admins want: don’t make waves, pass the kids, don’t write referrals, don’t have an opinion about ethics or morals. My admins right now are harassing me so badly in an attempt to get me to quit. Why? Because I refuse to just pass kids. I make phone calls, I give tutorials, I allow makeup work at any time so long as it’s before report card cut off and they still don’t do it.
I am so sorry I chose to work in public education. I can’t sleep at night. I come home with headaches every day. I know full well I’m not allowed to prepare these kids for the real world. They’re not leaving with the knowledge they MUST have. If I try to do it, I get harassed by my admins. If I don’t, I have to answer to God, myself, my grandfather, my college professors, and it’s just too much to take.
I blame only 2 entities: the “parents,” and our government.
One of the kids I used to babysit for had a learning disability. She was held back a year because of it, and was in learning support until fourth grade. Obviously, it being a requirement to be in learning support, she had an IEP. IEPs have to be renewed every year by agreement between the parent(s) and the school guidance counselor. Her mom kept it, “just in case.”
The middle schools and high schools in our county have a program where students can go to a local college every other Friday (opposite Fridays for middle and high schools) for extracurricular learning, largely arts based (particularly for the middle school program), although the high school program also contains a lot of science, language, etc. It’s kind of like a gifted program, but without the IQ requirement, just good grades and an application. This girl was HIGHLY artistic and pretty smart (though she didn’t think so). She really wanted to go to the middle school program when she was old enough, and I think it would have benefited her greatly, but she wasn’t allowed because her mom wouldn’t get rid of her IEP.
I was so mad at her mom for that. Way to reinforce the (untrue) idea that she’s stupid and deprive her of an environment in which she could thrive.
However, considering the relative frequency of “twice exceptional” kids (gifted, with learning disabilities), it seems unfair of the school to not let anyone with an IEP (unless it’s a GIEP, of course) attend the program. Schools have a share of the blame too.
What do you suggest doing about the child(ren) with issues like A.D.D. and A.D.H.D.? Some of them actually want to be at school and learn without being disruptive. The parents do everything they can to accommodate their child(ren), but because of the way that No Child Left Behind is written, they cannot get the school’s participation to get the correct environment for the child(ren) to learn. I get tired of hearing “your child has to fail repeatedly before we can do anything; you have to accept this lesser plan because we don’t want to have her do better, we get more money this way.” Yes, I have gotten that exact statement. They give my child a 504 when she really needs an I.E.P., but that is too much work. I was under the impression that they were supposed to teach children. My child went into kindergarten knowing her ABC’s. Within 2 weeks, she could not get past H. Do not tell me about how school systems are all knowing and good.
I know exactly how you feel, though I’m WAAAAY to anti-confrontational to have ever been a “behavior” problem, I just didn’t do any homework. Ever. I was bored out of my mind, to the point where I was litterally seething in class sometimes because I couldn’t understand why other kids couldn’t get with the program so we could move on. Doing 50 of the same math problem was ridiculus to me when I’d figured out how to do it the second time through, so I didn’t. Then going into class, especially later in high school (I had one math teacher my junior year tell a freshman boy at my table that he “could move if he wanted to avoid my bad influence”) I felt terrible for NOT doing the work. But my test grades were always 100% or higher. In all my years of pre-college school, I never scored below a 90% on an exam. I tested at a college reading level in the third grade. Yet I ended up in remedial math and science courses, which just made it worse. Not one teacher, as amazing as some of them were, stopped to wonder what was going on.
Maybe that’s just making excuses for my own laziness, which is totally possible. I know higher level college courses are more enoyable than I remember school ever being. I’m a big dork, but I LOVE learning, especially now. One of the reasons I’m going to school for teaching is because I know what would have worked for me. I spent 80% of lectures thinking, “If they’d explain it THIS way, it’d be SO much easier….” I have five younger siblings who have different abilities, one who’s slow and in a special school and another who’s really VERY MUCH like the kids in the OP attitude-wise, and I know what works for them (most of the time).
Anyway, rambling post aside.. huh. I guess I don’t have a point. I see where you’re coming from.
I can’t help but think this post was created strictly for the purpose of letting everyone know how intelligent you were or are. I was reading at college level in the third grade as well, and so is my nine-year-old brother. I am currently in a ‘gifted and talented’ class and there is a good chance I will be skipping a grade in the near future. The only difference is I did and still do all my work, no matter how easy.
I also noted several spelling mistakes in your post. Just FYI.
That’s actually not the norm. Well, if you were reading at a college level in third grade, you’re probably at or bordering genius IQ, so it probably would be, since at that level people tend to be VERY self-disciplined. However, for a lot of gifted people, boredom is a huge issue. If they can’t get work that actually challenges them, many will just sort of shut down. Of course, a lot of that is due to parents and teachers, as well (adult role models in general). Kids who see adults actively working and learning are more likely to do so themselves. So highly intelligent children of normal to slightly above average parents, who live in a community where being highly intelligent is far from the norm, don’t have that example.
Another factor, too, is it is a lot easier for kids to seek out information now than it was 10+ years ago. I didn’t get a computer until I was 9, and the internet was fairly limited then. Information-gathering was mainly limited to libraries, which in many places aren’t that big, if kids can get to them at all.
All my teachers always tell me they would definitely rather have a student who tries and works hard and makes average grades then have a smart lazy student who doesn’t do all or any of the work just because he “gets” it. Your whole comment overall made me angry because all you did was state how you never did any work and then state that you made high test scores like you not doing your work should’t matter.
That didn’t sound like bragging to me, that was just sheer displeasure. I can’t say that I get 100% on every test ever, but I have severe motivational issues that I can’t get past. I don’t try to make excuses because I know I’m not doing the right thing, but that doesn’t make it any easier. I’d rather be responsible than smart, but that just wasn’t how the cookie crumbled. I can sympathize with Nikky.
I know what you mean. My sophomore year of high school I started having problems (ditching, low grades) because I got bored with the cirricula. My mom and my therapist specifically asked the school if I could test-out of my classes and start doing junior/senior level work – their response was “we don’t allow that.”
It was very difficult to make it through the next few years. I actually went on the “5 year plan” because ditching was more stimulating than sitting through class. In my senior year I got into a “make-up” program where we went through the studies at our own pace and that was much better for me.
Muddling through your bragging rights there, I believe I found the solution to your past woes. You were just a self-centered, lazy individual and needed to be kicked out of school so as not to bring down your “lesser” peers with your whining. You believed that the work was below you and wanted to make sure the rest of the world was just as miserable as you believed yourself to be. Not finishing the work was just plain stupid. If you could do it with no problems, then do it, idiot! Not everything in life is going to be new and thrilling, some of it will be mundane and repetitive. If you couldn’t handle that as a child, how in the heck are you going to deal with it as an adult!?!
Bottom line, you need to learn to get over yourself. Maybe try tutoring those students who “don’t get it the first time” like your brilliant self. Be useful instead of irritating. The school system cannot be made to fit every single student perfectly and kids need to learn to adapt to their environment…otherwise we have these “emo” things crawling around our schools whining about how life is so unfair to their wonderful selves.
Clearly you have never had that problem.
If you have to spend 13 years in school where a minimum of 75% of everything you do consists of things you could have done 5 years ago with no problem, how much are you going to feel like doing it? In real life, yes, there will be things that are mundane and repetitive, but if EVERYTHING in your job is like that, you’re most likely going to start looking for a new job. Students don’t have that luxury.
How long would you be able to work at a job where you did ONE thing (say screwing something in), over and over again for 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, every week? How long would it take before you flipped and went “If I have to screw in one more freaking screw, I’m going to kill myself!” I give it a month if you’re good with boredom, a day if you’re not. For some people, that’s what school is like, for 7 hours a day, 5 days a week, for 13 years (or 17, or possibly 19, or…okay, I’m going to assume no one working for a PhD is that bored).
SHOULD they learn to motivate themselves? Absolutely. But it’s hard, especially when you have no incentive (if you can get in A in every class with 5 minutes of work, why should you put in an hour?).
^indeed. You can hardly place a catch-all label on the problems with education. While there are certainly issues within school management in some areas, the true problem resides in America’s lax attitude toward schooling.
Not always, it is both the school and the parents’ responsibility for discipline, and if behavior in school is a constant problem, then at some point parents should be called in. And parents like mom #3, if they aren’t giving their kids enough attention at home, they can act out at school. I am in high school now, and my school tests everyone for gifted abilities and for special ed, so the kids who act out in class are probably acting out because they want attention. Special needs (this includes giftedness) aren’t so widespread, the problem is probably cultural, pop culture doesn’t value education anymore.
Bring back corporal punishment in schools.
BRING BACK THE “BOARD” OF EDUCATION!!!!!!!!!
They test EVERYONE? In my school (and most schools, I believe) they only tests students on teacher recommendation (or possibly MUCH pestering from the parents).
And I still hate how giftedness always gets lumped in with special needs. I was looking at textbooks today, and the entire gifted education section consisted ONLY of one general special needs textbook, which had ONE chapter about gifted kids, half of which was about “twice exceptional” kids. So kids who are above grade level get half a chapter, and kids who are below grade level get the entire rest of the book, plus about 50 other books? Helpful.
Seriously, if you use IQ (solely for numeric representation), average=100, gifted=approx. 135+. Someone who is the same level below average as someone with an IQ of 135 is above average (i.e., 65) is at a very different level than an average student, and at a HUMONGOUSLY different level than the gifted student. I don’t think you can use the same methods for both…
personally, i think special needs = bull
either the kid has special need and should thus go to a special school or s/he is ‘normal’ and thus needs to be treated as such.
I had to learn english when i moved to the US and my native tongue wasn’t spoken by anyone. I learned it far faster than most of the latino kids who were in the special program to intergrate them via teaching in spanish and english to ease them in… because I HAD to, they could function just fine speaking spanish. When kids are forced to adapt, they do, when they don’t have to, they’ll take the easier path and use whatever excuse will let them get away with doing less work.
Also
More likely than not that mom’s kid was just a slacker and did everything to get suspended/sent home/ etc while she didn’t want to be bothered because to her school = free daycare
“When kids are forced to adapt, they do, when they don’t have to, they’ll take the easier path and use whatever excuse will let them get away with doing less work.”
Unless they have a neurological impairment that makes it literally impossible to adapt and “fit in”. Sometimes it’s not an issue of being willfully disobedient.
read the line *right* after special needs=bull
I was talking about the halfway stuff they’re trying to pull off.
My mom has worked with special needs kids. If your impairment is small enough the thing that works BEST is to be treated like everyone else. Stick them in a class and don’t let them use a mild case of Down (for example) as a reason to gain time on test, etc. They will have a tougher time (and almost never get the A’s and B’s, but guess what, C=average) but will usually end up doing okay in school and learning to overcome the (again, mild form) disability.
If it’s significant then they should be taken away from the normal kids who will just make your life hell and placed into a special school where the teachers and staff are trained to deal with them and there are no normal kids to bully them… because kids can be really cruel to those that are different.
The way I see it, some kids need just a little extra help, but the intent should be to give them that help so they can be successful in a normal classroom, not keep them in special ed classes until the day they graduate. If someone is diagnosed with a learning disability, for example, they should at the very least receive some sort of tutoring to help them learn to deal with it. It may not be possible for schools to have one-on-one tutors (although special ed classes are EXTREMELY expensive), so if they had one class period a day separate for this purpose, I don’t see that as being terribly problematic. It should be temporary, though. It shouldn’t take more than a year or so for the child to figure out how they learn and be able to handle normal classes on their own.
I know people who were forced to stay in special ed throughout high school because their parents didn’t think they could handle regular classes. That has to be incredibly demoralizing. I also know kids who “graduated” from special ed in elementary school, and they felt a huge sense of accomplishment for it, and gained confidence from the experience.
Wow. Talk about ignorance…
hmmmm….or you could behave yourself and stop doing things to ‘displease’ your teacher, that way she wouldn’t keep ‘bothering’ your mother at work. How hard is it to understand that it was you and your actions at fault, not those of your teacher?
Couldn’t have said it better myself.
Well, believe it or not, not all teachers are heroes like on TV. Many of them are power-tripping a-holes.
So go to class, keep your mouth shut and do your work. They tend not to give you a hard time for that.
Couldn’t agree more if you say nothing in class and stay focused and get your work done there is no possible way your teacher could call you out or punish you. They have a hard enough job as it is with so little pay so they have sort of a reason to be an ass hole.
False.
My English teacher in high school had a tendency to play favorites, and my senior year, she really had it in for one boy in my class. Almost all the teachers liked him, he was quiet, he did all his work, got good grades, and had a sort of respectable air to him (he was also nice and well-liked by pretty much everyone in our class, which is rather impressive, in my opinion). She tore him apart for EVERYTHING. When we had to present poetry interpretations, in groups, with each person having just a couple lines, no one else had to suffer through her telling them why they were completely wrong for more than a minute or so. He got lectured for about 15 minutes on how his interpretation was really stupid and he was completely missing the point (which he wasn’t…he wasn’t even that far off of what she said).
That doesn’t technically count as punishment, but it’s humiliating and unfair.
Actual punishment anecdote: In elementary school, my best friend was wearing these new pants she got that were really cool except they were too long for her. When we were walking into the cafeteria for lunch, I accidentally stepped on her pant leg, and she fell. She didn’t care, she just got up and carried on. The cafeteria monitor teacher gave me lunch detention for a week because I apparently did it on purpose.
Someone get me this teacher’s facebook page! If he does this comment of the day stuff, he could make a freaking website of his own and fill it with these comments. I suspect it could potentially rival FML.
Sh+t my teachers says, coming in February on NBC.
I would SO watch that show
“i will only write the first 3 sentences exactly as it is written”…interesting sentence construction there on the teacher’s part, no?
I’m glad I went to a charter school where people actually value their education…
That must be very different from the charter schools that have taken over failed public schools in PA, where people actually value their stockholders’ profits.
Agreed – oh, and they can kick the kids out if they misbehave. Back to public school which doesn’t have that luxury. Of course, that’s also after the kids had to apply to get in to begin with. It’s hardly the fault of a public school…
Omfg, this is pathetic. I feel bad for that teacher.
Unfortunately, kids don’t want to go to school, even the ones who are “stupid” and destined to be “homeless and die in the gutter.” (facepalm)
The reality is that kids do not know what is good for them, nor are most of them being given the appropriate guidance from their parents. If you leave it up to the kids, I guess 90% of the upcoming generation will be dying in the gutter in the next few years.
Most teachers are doing the best they can with what they have. Sadly, what they have are kids whose parents couldn’t care less. Without the reinforcement of the parents, the kids aren’t going to live up to their potential.
“The reality is that kids do not know what is good for them”
I can vouch for the truth in this lol
Some kids do. I always loved school, and I know plenty of other people who did as well.
This is why I’m close to being a geography/biology teacher. I don’t have to bother with the language fails that my students will have, I just have to make sure they know how to prevent becoming a mom/dad at the age of 15-16 and what ever.
oh wait sh*t..
hmmmmm ….. Sex-Ed fail?
I loved my Honors World Geography teacher, but she only required her students to spell things out phonetically. For people like my friend Kelly, who struggled with the basics as it was (she has severe dyslexia), that actually did a lot of harm.
Don’t. Please don’t, with that attitude. Teaching students biology is like teaching them an entirely new language, assuming you’re doing it right. And it is important to understand that communication is key in any subject; you MUST be prepared to correct grammar and usage on a regular basis.
I don’t remember grammar ever really being an issue in biology, since we rarely had to write full sentences, let alone paragraphs. I’m not just talking high school biology, either. Both were mostly multiple choice, fill in the blank, matching, or drawing diagrams.
Now, if you want to be a legitimate biologist, with hopes of publishing journal articles, that’s a whole different story.
hah this is hilariously depressing
indeed
Anyone noticed that one of the comments has a cross, like the ones that you get WHEN YOU POSTED THE STATUS11!1eleven!1
You can get those regardless of whether you posted the status or not
Question from a foreigner – what is a sophomore girl?
It is a 10th grader. Or the second year of high school.
Thank you! For the record, a 15-16 year old in the UK would be Year 11. Does that mean US kids don’t start school until they are 6? We legally have to start here at 5 but most kids start school at 4.
Usually they start kindergarten at 5, but sometimes closer to 6 if they were born after October the year they turn 5.
And this example of a sophomore is going to have a kindergartner in… uhm… wait, I’ms good at dis math stuff… 5 minus 2 is …
Yeah so this girl was getting “schtupt” at age 12? To make a baby by age 13? So when she so to her senior year of high school she will have to drop the kid off at the elementary school?
ARRRRRRGGGHHHHH! We are breeding ourselves into oblivion! The dumb ones have more babies than the rest of us.
‘ARRRRRRGGGHHHHH! We are breeding ourselves into oblivion! The dumb ones have more babies than the rest of us.’
You summed that up quite nicely.
It’s okay. Around 500 years from now, a man by the name of “Not Sure” will save humanity by teaching people that you should use water, not Gatorade (sorry “Brawndo”) to feed plants.
“Welcome to CostCo. I love you.”
But Brawndo has what plants crave! It’s got electrolytes!
Woah. Jessi is my real name. O.o
This is weird :O
Tamara, the U.S. education system varies from state to state. Education is the state’s responsibility, so each state has different strategies, though most states’ education systems are very similar. Here, most high schools include 9th grade (freshmen), 10th grade (sophomores), 11th grade (juniors) and 12th grade (seniors). Its quite possible, depending on the state the teacher is from, that the sophomore student referenced is not the 15-16 years of age that most have guessed. In Texas, for instance, the public high school system reflects that of a college, though its not always obvious to the students. Each grade has a certain amount of hours that must be completed before you are able to proceed into the next course and you are required to have “x” hours in certain courses before you’re allowed to graduate. I don’t quite remember what the exact hour allocation was when I graduated (2001), so I really can’t give an example of that.
Like Texas, many states try to push their students through the system as quickly as possible without outright avoiding the pass/fail system. A poor student reflects on the school, district, county and state. It affects the budget provided to the school district, which affects decisions in the school’s budgeting.
Sometimes, a school simply cannot justify passing a student. A student has to pass through at least 3 years of high school basics (including English, Math, Science and History – colleges call this the “core classes”), if I’m not mistaken. If a student doesn’t pass one level of these basics, he or she will be forced to retake the same level. It is quite possible to have a student with enough credits to graduate stuck in a sophomore level class. In cases like this, the school with attempt summer school and look into alternate avenues to proceed the student into graduating. In this instance, the student can be anywhere from 15-16 or older.
As for the entirety of the comments and post, I will admit that I cringe when I consider the educational system of the US. I was discussing it last week with a friend of mine and, compared to other developed countries, the education system here is appalling.
Yes, a part of the systems failure is the parents. Parents should take an interest in their child’s education and development. Part of the failure is the government. The Texas government grades schools based on standardized testing. This idea causes stress for both the teachers and the kids. If the tests reflect poorly on one teacher, the school may take action against him. Finally, it’s obvious society plays a large role in this, as well. American culture has evolved into a pop-culture that glorifies the uneducated and overexposes concepts and situations that I, as a child, would never sing along to.
Things have changed since you were in HS. Now the core classes are all 4x4s. What that means, Tamara, is that they must now pass 4 years of each of the core courses, plus gain additional credits in “elective” classes to have enough credits to graduate.
We won’t talk about the TAKS test (or the up-coming STAAR replacement for the TAKS).
When I graduated (3 years ago), the requirement in my state was 4 years of English, 4 years of math, and I believe 3 science and 2 history. They’d just increased math from 3 to 4 that year, though, so they may have upped them by now. I imagine they’re going to make it 4 for all of them pretty much everywhere. That would be hard at my high school, though, because they have block scheduling, so there are only 4 classes a day (8 per year).
Actually, I’m not entirely certain if that was the state or the district. School districts can make their own requirements so long as they meet the state requirements (which, in turn, have to meet the federal requirements).
That depends on the school, though. When I started HS, it began at 10th grade. But we were still called sophomores.
Second year of study in High school/College
it means she’s in grade 10. in the US, that’s generally about 15 or 16 years old.
A sophomore is a student in the 10th grade, or second year (out of four) of high school or college.
2nd year of secondary school (american high school) people are called sophomores, as are second year college students.
Second year of HS. Approximately 15-16 years of age.
A girl in the second year of high school, in the 10th grade. About 15 years old or so.
10th year student in High School around 14-16 years old
sorry didn’t see the previous post when i posted …..but the fact that a sophomore girl has a “2 year old son” is pretty sad in itself.
But just because she is a sophmore does not make her 15 or 16 years old. We could be dealing with a chronic repeater here and thus older than your typical sophmore. I would also guess she had to miss a significant amount of school when she was pregnant and after birth. Still messed up though.
True enough. Most of my freshmen (9th years) are 15 or rising 16s. Regardless, kids that young reproducing breaks my heart. We lose too many of them that just can’t make the grades and care for an infant.
I would say that is more sad.
Actually, there was a girl at my school who had a kid in…7th grade? She didn’t miss much school because of it, but she is now 19, less than a year out of school (never held back, October birthday), with two kids.
TL;DR
*facepalm* You must be one of the kids the teacher was talking about…
THIS.
http://cheezburger.com/ninth1der/lolz/View/4398638848
also tl;dr? geeeeeeeezzzzzzzz you are a product of this same system
So, Mark Cook, then? There are many of them on Facebook, but why do I suspect this is him?
English teacher, check.
Virginia? Check.
Haymarket, Virginia (Population 1252)? Holy crap I think we have a winner.
I am a 14 year old, and I WEEP for this generation.
I’ll be one of the few smart people of today who likes bacon. And science.
I second you.
I third you.
ai cant rite rait
Thats a releif. One less teenager to rob my car.
Keep it goin bro! >_<
i’m 14 years old, and i don’t.
each generation is pretty much the same as the last. read up on “loud minorities”, it’ll explain everything, including hippies. smart people are not few in numbers.
They just can’t spell… or read… and know nothing about anything that happened before they were born. Hippies were “loud” but they could spell their own names, and the names they gave themselves, too.
Yea true, but none of them has failed as hard as your gen. at least hippies spell and use proper grammar, while being stoned out of their gords, hugging trees, saving the whales, fighting against wars and rocking out at Woodstock.
The boomers simply waited till they were grown to be a train wreck of a generation.
This. I’m fifteen, and we are studying WWI poetry for our English GCSE.
Several of my friends can barely write coherent sentences, and almost every lesson our teacher has to do a WWI for retards talk so that the rest of the class will comprehend the lesson, which is quite irritating for me and a few others.
Remember that you can do your own reading outside of class. Just because you have a formal “class”, don’t let that be your only education. There’s so much out there … much more than anyone could ever read or be taught in a classroom. Follow your interests and go deep!
I’m not likely to read a reply … but good luck.
It’s almost like you’re saying, “There’s more to see than can ever be seen. More to do than can ever be done.”
Wikipedia can open your eyes, take you wonder by wonder.
Well, yes. Most of the history and grammar I know I learnt myself.
16 here, and I am probably the only person in my entire school who actually gives a hoot about my education.
How about you DON’T talk about your students on Facebook, dumbass. That’s completely unprofessional and embarrassing.
^parent of a trouble-making kid / teen mom.
honestly, if the rest of us can post about our jobs, there’s no difference in this teacher posting about his/hers. there aren’t any posted names.
^ Idiot who automatically concluded I’m a parent when I’m 21 and have no kids.
I’m actually majoring in education. We CAN get in trouble for this type of stuff. Just because this person didn’t divulge names doesn’t mean it’s not embarrassing. You can talk about your coworkers and customers all you want, but these are kids. What good is this teacher doing if she uses the comments her students make as “quotes of the day”? What the hell is that? Teachers are held to higher expectations because they need to help students excel. Not talk trash about their stupidity.
Thanks, jerk.
thank you for speaking on kids behalf, but we think this is hilarious so go away and suck the fun out of something else, like science experiments
Look! The girl who has yet to hold a teaching job in her life is getting ready to get her degree and save the whole learning institution from itself!
You have no idea what’s going on in this man’s English class, yet you pass judgment on him?
Whose the jerk now? And maybe a bit pretentious and self-righteous to boot?
*sarcastic applause*
You’ll be just as burned out in a few years, and looking for any kind of relief in lieu of crying … just like this Failbooker we’re all enamored with right now.
Today’s education system is why I moved away from education and now work as a correctional officer. At least I’m allowed to handle disruptive sh*ts and idiots in this career field.
LOL weren’t you just bashing another teacher’s professionalism? Yah I would really want your angry ass teaching my children… pot meet kettle
I did. Four years Marines. G.I. Bill. Two B.S. degrees. All paid off and I’m doing fine.
Did I hit a nerve Kimmy?
I’ll take my troll cookie now.
P.S. guard that temper. Wouldn’t want you punching any students who may need a hug.
Oh yes, I understand how my concern for the children and getting pissed at you knocking down my opinion makes me dangerous for children. Totally get it.
You know, for a corrections officer, you’re not that great at allowing others their freedom of speech. All I said was it is considered wrong to talk about students in public and that teachers can get in trouble. Why can’t you just keep your opinion to yourself? You don’t need to insult others. What’s your problem?
Darling, you’re 21, still a student, and clearly going to fail at being in the classroom if a few internet posts can get you pissed off your rocker.
Most of what I would have said to your self-righteous half-brained comments has been said for me (thanks guys!), but a few comments anyway:
1 – I’m an Ed major as well.
2 – both my parents teach in the public school system, and after living 24 years as their child, as well as having worked as a substitute teacher for several years, I feel like I speak with some actual authority.
3 – every day a teacher doesn’t pull their hair, cry, and/or shoot up the local Walmart out from the stresses of dealing with students, parents, administrators, other teachers, and state standards is a small miracle.
4 – the lovely little brats you teach, and their parents, will probably be posting just as much (if not more) about you.
5 – while your passion is admirable-ish, save it for the parents who abuse and neglect their children. the way you’re currently spending it will only cause you grief. you’ll quickly realize when you start teaching that making enemies of your fellow teachers will make your life a living nightmare.
6 – a corrections officer isn’t required to allow others their freedom of speech. they’re required to correct. clearly, you have a limited knowledge of anything dealing with the punishment laws of the US. you should probably figure them out, because at least some of your students and/or their parents will likely be “in the system.”
7 – “all I said” is a ridiculous defense. your words and their intended message are clearly two different things.
8 – you should probably retire from the internet. except facebook. I’m sure some of your friends will still pretend to be nice to you there.
*applause*
*bows*
*Stands up, whistles, tumbles down the rows of people in front of me*
Ow…
“You know, for a corrections officer, you’re not that great at allowing others their freedom of speech.”
“Why can’t you just keep your opinion to yourself?”
Seriously? Does anyone else see something odd about this?
Someone needs a Chill Pill.
*hereyago*
So long as he doesn’t use names, it is within accepted behavior for him to post this. From one educator to another, you will have to vent. It is stressful dealing with overly demanding and/or completely absent parents, children who have no interest in learning, administrators on your back 24/7, and then getting these comments? If you don’t vent, you will explode, and it will be ugly. Just remember to not use names, and you’ll be within the rules.
I’m a teacher. You’re embarrassing me. Please stop.
kim seems like the kind of female teacher who overuses punishments as a form of defense against the class she has no control over and gains small pleasures from general pettiness
You evidently can’t keep your opinions to yourself, so why on earth is Polish Kitteh (<3) obligated to keep his/her opinions to his/herself? DOUBLE STANDARDSSSSS
You with the name calling are really going to talk about manners?? Lord have MERCY on the future children you plan to corrupt…
^ Is a young person who has yet to spend several years grinding out a living in a profession that is extremely difficult and soul destroying. I envy your optimism. If you can come back to me in 5 years and say your idealism is the same I say bully to you madam.
I speak from experience as my wife is a teacher, and I have seen her valiantly struggle to stay positive and encouraging amidst parents and students who don’t give a damn.
The kids should be embarrassed by the teachers post. Maybe if his students read his facebook page and see someone about them on the post, they might actually realize that they’re, well, idiots, and work to change that so they don’t become another “quote of the day” from their teach. Though that seems unlikely because kids these days seem to have no sense of what shame is.
something* not someone.
teacher*
No, it isn’t…is it? How come is unprofessional? Is there a especial rule on educational system that does not allow the teacher to comment about his students out of school?? Embarrasing, yes, but not for him, but for the dumbass students/parents who, by the way, deserve it.
*special (my spanish flew by XP )
What makes the teacher think they have the right to embarrass their students like that? I hate that. They’re responsible for seeing to it that all their students succeed. What good are you doing if you’re just complaining about them? If I was a parent to one of this person’s students, I’d be infuriated that it’s more like a joke to them. You know?
Maybe if professionals like you allowed your students to feel embarrassed about things they rightly should be embarrassed about, the frequency of these incidents would decrease. Eh?
I wouldn’t be infuriated at the teacher, I’d be infuriated with my child. If you were teaching anyone past second grade and they didn’t know to capitalize their name would you not joke to other teachers about it?
No names have been used. Only he and the person he’s talking about know who they are.
If I was a parent to one of this person’s students, I would be a) really mad at my kid, if they were one of the ones that got called out…seriously, no child of mine better be that idiotic (and sadly, it can happen even with excellent parenting, before anyone says something), or b) appalled at the mentality of their classmates, and the complete failures they are likely to be.
I would not in any way be infuriated with the teacher. I would, as I do, have great sympathy for his plight.
So, in response to the unprofessional-ness of this. Yes, it’s unprofessional. I have two or three friends who are teachers and you are told that you are not allowed to talk about ANYTHING at work depending on what your school board says. I also know someone who runs a school. You do this crap and you can get fired or reprimanded, usually just sacked. I wouldn’t be surprised if he/she didn’t have a job anymore.
I’ve heard lawyers and psychiatrists talking about their clients/patients like this. So long as there’s no identifying information, they’re technically allowed. The catch is, some of these would be identifiable to someone who was in the class (not the parent, and probably not the paper, but the others were presumably said in class, around other students). So I could see being reprimanded for them, on THOSE grounds.
However, I think it’s really stupid. What’s the worst possible outcome of this? Someone sees themselves on it and their feelings are hurt? Boo-hoo, try not to be such an idiot in the future.
What’s embarrassing is that these are prime examples of what happens when parents don’t stay involved in their child’s education. Unprofessional would be putting names to examples. Just my take…
It’s not like he or she gave out the names of any of these people. The only people who’d recognize this stuff would be either the person who said it or *maybe* someone else in the class (if it was something said aloud and not just to the teacher). Honestly, I think the teacher has a right to complain about stuff this bad, and maybe a little embarrassment will set some of these students straight.
I’d say its aight. If that kinda info above is all hes dishing out. Its when he starts throwing names in that it becomes a bad idea.
It’s only embarrassing because these kids are dumb. Besides these kids would most not be friends with their English teacher on Facebook so they’ll never know.
Eh. Most of the kids in my high school were Facebook friends with the German teacher. If he’s one of the “cool teacher” sorts, they could be (yes, even the dumb, slacker-y kids). I can’t tell if he would be or not from this. It seems to me that those kinds complain more openly than the stricter ones, so it’s possible.
you’re an idiot. it’s called free speech; besides, no names were even posted.
How in the world did these kids get to high school?
Social promotion. Children can only be held back so many times before they “age out” of elementary and middle school. The thinking is that you don’t want a sixteen year old in fourth or fifth grade, which is what would happen with some of these kids. We have dumbed down the curriculum so much to “accomodate” everyone that the real victims of “No Child Left Behind” are the smart kids!
I agree 100%
The best solution would be to make schools for smart kids / kids who want to learn where you need to test into them and others for kids who don’t care where the curriculum can be lowered to basically just let them pass.
The second school you speak of…. would the kids get a broom or a shovel for graduation? I mean the world does need ditch-diggers….. and someone has to put the pink sawdust on the vomit on the gym floor, right?
Yeah, all those shovel-ready jobs Obama promised have really materialized. More than likely they’ll use the shovel to break into a home.
these are called private schools [i suppose more accurately, good private schools]. there are many good private schools out there which offer up to 100% financial aid for those who need it as well.
Not everyone has access to them, though. In my community, the options for private schools were: a Catholic school a half hour away that only went through 8th grade, a Christian school a half hour away, uh…according to Google some schools I’ve never heard of that I don’t think actually exist…and a small array of both Christan and secular schools about an hour away, only 3 of which are commonly mentioned as being anything special. Not everyone has a way to get to a school that far away, even if they could afford it.
I suppose there’s always boarding school.
haven’t you heard, they no longer fail kids to repeat a grade
Haven’t YOU heard, the bird is the word?
Retoast. Still crunchy.
this isn’t the youth generation, this is just the stupid inner city, regular people aren’t really this dumb
Inner city, or the rural South?
Both. Also possibly rural midwest. Or Utah.
In the end, though, it’s a district thing, not a “every school everywhere in the US is like this.” Sure does wonders for the stereotyped reputation though.
Sad thing is (let it be known I’m from Texas) it’s not even the whole population; there are always those few that don’t fit the stereotypes in the least and hate the reputation it gives them.
So if the stupid people are all from the inner city, rural south, rural midwest, and/or Utah… We’re running out of places for the “regular” people to live!
Excuse me? I live in the Rural South and happen to be educated. I also have all of my teeth. My HUSBAND and I raised our children to be respectful, law-abiding citizens, that did well in school, and are now good men. We pay our taxes, and take very good care of our land. So, what was it that you were saying about “the rural South”?
Clearly, you don’t know what a generalization is.
No, “regular” people are just this dumb, if not more. I live in suburban Ohio. I know.
Well. Ohio. (Don’t hurt me!)
FunnyJunk… So it’s finally making its way into the big leagues, huh?
Where is that planet killing asteroid when you really need it?
On its way, at least I hope so…
HOORAY FOR MISANTHROPY!
HOORAY!
+5000 internets for you WISE SIR!!!!
Never. The end of the world will involve impossibly huge yellow somethings that hang in the air exactly the way bricks don’t.
oh, plus 42 internets for you. Because 42 is better than 5000!
This is hilarious, wonder how much longer he’ll continue teaching…
According to the last statistics I read, the average is two years teaching in the public schools.
this school has to be in alabama…
Or Pennsylvania
Hey now. It sounds like inner city speak to me, not hick speak, which means it is about 80% likely it is not from PA, since there are only two real cities in the whole state.
Although I will admit that, from that parent quote, I would not be terribly surprised if it were Pittsburgh. It sounded kind of like it when I read it.
Poor guy.
HAHA! These are too hilarious. I guess that’s what I’m looking forward to seeing when I start teaching.
Yeah, pretty much, but you will be hard pressed to maintain your sense of humor about things like this after you have read your tenth batch of 130+ horribly written essays. This is one reason why 40% of teachers quit within the first five years. Good luck to you.
Hmm. Does that mean it’s easier for teachers in small schools who only have to grade 50 horribly written essays?
I’m so confused by the part about To Kill a Mockingbird…
Was that student actually trying to write a coherent paper? Or did they type in “to kill a mockingbird” on Google and copy/paste bits and pieces of the results?
I’m hoping it’s the second one (for the future of America’s sake).
Oh, man. Poor guy. This sounds like it happened at my school (mainly the part about the girl with a 2-year-old son).
There are countries in Africa whose students barely have money and yet can carry on a conversation in english in a better manner than most of the kids this teacher in talking about.
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I’m a language teacher. The very first class I ever taught a kid asked me: “Miss, why do we have to learn how to spell? I know you’re gonna say that is because I’ll have to write formal letters later on, but when I grow up I’ll just hire someone to do that, just like my dad…”
It’s as thought I am reading about my own days…
All incredibly sad, yet incredibly true.
i think I’ll be a teacher just to solve problems like this. I’ll be one of those “No problems or there will be a problem” teachers. In fact, I’ll do what a character in a book I read did.
Every time he began teaching a class, he would bring a cheap yardstick, always the same kind, and ask for silence, which he never got. So he would bang his yardstick on the table, and it would snap in half. No problems came from the class after that.
Plus, I would ask for the papers for a grade above them, just to improve their education, and they would listen. *nod*
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aaaaand your class will lose all respect for you in 3…2…1…
Nah… I can see it now. Basically, strict with a rule-breaking class, fun with a behaving one.
unfortunately, your strategy only works for male teachers. one of the easiest places to see the way that sex/gender is still a major issue is in the educational system.
And now I feel oblivious… >_<
I am female and I use a similar strategy. It works well in my classes.
The ONLY teacher in my high school who everyone listened to unfailingly was female.
Do you have a plan for the kids who will sit there quietly behaving in class and just not hand in a single piece of work?
How about the kids who miss more than half of the classes and have parents who don’t care either?
How about the kid who is in his/her second year of 8th grade and still failing every class? The one who likes the teachers just fine, but can’t be bothered to do anything? The one who takes no blame for anything, thinks the world is out to get him/her, and that teachers are lying when they say that he/she will need ANY of the things that are being taught in any of the classes?
(Not exaggerating on any of these examples and they have all been tested extensively for any learning disabilities, etc. before anyone jumps in on that.)
I extend an open invitation to come to my classroom and work with these kids anytime you’d like. It breaks my heart that I can put in hundreds of hours trying to help them, but they seem so determined to fail anyway. But if you’d like to come with your magic wand, please, be my guest.
Both my parents were public school teachers.
When I am King, all teachers will be issued a handgun and allowed a 15% fatality rate per class.
That should solve most of the problems pretty quickly.
I’m pretty sure if you miss that many classes, it’s mandatory summer school and/or repeating the grade.
Beyond that…I try not to think about it. It’s too sad.
Sadly, they dropped the attendance policy for public schools in my county because it wasn’t “fair”. So as long as my students show up once every 9 days, they aren’t penalized for it.
I had a great grandfather who got a job as a instructor in a school for juvenile delinquents in about 1915. The first week he tried ringing the little hand bell on the desk to call the class to order. That didn’t work. By the 4th or 5th day he decided to surprise them. He brought in two 65 pound anvils. Pretty small as anvils go. He hid them on each side of his chair. When the students didn’t respond to the little hand bell, he reached down and grabbed the anvils. Swung them up and over his head and crashed them together.
Slightly louder and more impressive than a hand bell. In the next 2 years he only had 1 student that ever acted up in class.
Do what a character in a book I read did. Threaten to poison your students, wear a black cloak, deduct points for absolutely no reason, later be killed by a snake bite, but not before killing the headmaster first, and still manage to be full of epic win.
Am I the only one who is somewhat disturbed that this man is an English teacher? He cannot even manage pronoun agreement.
“I called a parent after school about their child being a disruption in class.” ‘Their’ should be replaced by ‘his’ or ‘her’, since he called ONE parent. ‘Their child’ should be ‘their child’s’. It sounds unwieldy but unfortunately it is correct.
“I will only write the first three sentences exactly as it is written.” ‘It is’ should be replaced by ‘they are’, as he was quoting three sentences, not just one.
I could go on, but I believe I’ve made my point clear.
Eh. It’s colloquial. I post stuff like that occasionally as well without thinking; it’s just the standard to which the average American has lowered their speaking expectations. You sadly grow accustomed to it.
“Their” is standard usage when gender is unknown (and presumably he didn’t want to specify gender, for anonymity’s sake), and I don’t think “child” needs to be “child’s.” The child was a disruption in class. The child was being a disruption in class. I called about your child being a disruption in class. “Child’s” makes no sense. The child doesn’t own being a disruption in class, and it certainly isn’t a contraction for “child is.”
This sums it up very nicely.
http://www.cagle.com/working/110126/babin.jpg
Don’t worry about the lack of education – those of us who made an effort at school are always going to need people to clean our toilets and serve us at the drive-through.
Anyone find his Facebook page? I want to message him
MY GOD
Sadly, this is a country that chooses to lower standards rather than push students harder.
Here in California a teacher at a Middle College High School was given a death threat by a “special needs” student. The student was suspended for 7 days, but is back in the class. She refused to come back to class with the student still there. 53 days later the school was telling her to come back or be fired. She refuses to come back. The students stage a walk out, and the superintendent threatens the kids with disciplinary action. Parent join in the protest. Suddenly the superintendent states how pleased he is with the students voicing their opinions. The vice principal of the school then issues statements to news media that there was NEVER a death threat, despite the witnesses in the class AND the suspension of the suspect. This was going on all last week.
NOW, teachers, students, parents, they all have a lot of the fault on their shoulders. Students don’t want to learn. Teachers don’t teach well and don’t discipline. Parents aren’t involved. However, school administrators ALSO share in a large portion of the guilt as so many of them are beard scratching, educated fools, the types who have doctorates and PhD’s who screw up even a cut and dry case of a mentally challenged kid tossing around death threats and punishing a very beloved teacher than the students staged a walkout.
It’s fine though. I believe in capitalism, and there always needs to be people on the lower rung society. As horrible as that sounds, they won’t be poor due to economic exploitation, but through their own bad choices. Sadly, we’ll be expected to pity them and give them welfare despite knowing the cause in advance.
While I agree with your statement that some teachers don’t teach well, I must take issue with your statement that teachers don’t discipline. They don’t discipline because they CAN’T. Where I teach, we have been told on numerous occasions by my principal to stop sending home notes and making phone calls because it’s irritating the parents and they are calling our District Central office so that the principal is getting in trouble! One student punched a fourth grade teacher in the face a few weeks ago (the student was fighting another and the teacher was trying to get them out of the classroom) and all that happened to the student was one day of suspension! Teachers’ hands are tied where discipline is concerned – there is nothing we can do and the kids and parents know it. The inmates are running the asylum, folks!
So true, unfortunately.
A somewhat-special needs person(I say ‘somewhat’ because he was in SOME ‘slow’ classes but later held a job at Wal-Mart so really, not that special..) that graduated the year before me, threatened to bomb his graduation. What happens? They let him walk at graduation a mere 2 days later.
That same year, as a prank, a senior dumped old milk somewhere and the school smelled horrible and he was EXPELLED because they were told “no senior pranks.”
Well…doesn’t Wal-Mart have a program for employing people with special needs? So I don’t think that in and of itself really disqualifies him.
Quite awhile ago (20 years or so) at my high school, there a few kids (at least 3, possibly a couple more) who participated in a senior prank. Two of them got into no trouble at all because their mom was a teacher and their dad was a cop. The rest got expelled and faced legal repercussions (I don’t remember what they did, other than the fact that it was really destructive). It’s not like no one knew the twins were involved…they orchestrated the whole thing, and everyone knew it. But no one would do anything about it.
On a sort of related note: You heard about the woman who’s facing jail time for lying about where her residence is, so her kids could go to a better school? My brother and his wife do the exact same thing, and my parents (whose address they use) aid and abet them. One of their big motivations is to make it easier for my parents to babysit for those couple of hours between the end of school and when my bro and SIL get off work. I’m truthfully undecided about whether I think this is unethical. Anyone have any insight to share?
They’re trying to do what’s best for their children! We don’t use our local schools because the scores are so poor.
Do you want them to end up like the kids in the teacher’s status updates?
The school in their district is fine — they just don’t want to spend the extra two or three hundred a month on daycare (which, FWIW, I offered to pay). They’d rather take advantage of my parents, who complain about it behind their backs and say “Oh no, we don’t mind at all!” to their faces.
You can pay to have your kids go to school outside the district. I have NO idea how much that costs, but I can’t imagine it being as much as two to three hundred a month (which would be about $2000/school year). If I were your parents, I’d tell them to look into that, or figure something else out.
Erm, censoring works best with solid rectangles. It’s pretty clear that the guy’s first name is Mark.
I want to be FB friends with this teacher. I work in a library and come across people just as stupid.
It’s like every single day is straight out of a Kevin Smith movie -
I always love when the library patron says, “There’s this book I am looking for. I can’t remember the name of it. Some dude named ‘Ben’ wrote it I think. It was blue,” and I KNOW WHAT THE BOOK IS.
If the patron’s a child, they think I’m some sort of minor deity after that.
If it’s popular enough I usually know it. Like The Girl With The Dragon Tattoo. But I’m a clerk – I’m suppose to check books in and out, take fines, and get yelled at over 25 cents. (Seriously, I had one guy who started to hit the desk and scream at me over a quarter.) I try to send people like you describe to reference. Sometimes they just won’t go though.
I had this one guy with a computer question I couldn’t help him with. I was also checking out a HUGE stack of books to a kid. So I told the guy five times to go to reference as I couldn’t help him and I was very busy. (There was also a line.) He just would NOT leave until I finally called out to the reference librarian to help him.
And of course I get a lot of “Where are the DVDs?” “Um, you’re standing right in front of them.”
I have a few friends who are teachers. Sadly, this sounds like the typical day teaching inner-city Milwaukee youth.
My mother is a teacher, and there would be NO WAY that I would have been able to pull that crap ( and no way that I would have, because I was taught basic things like manners by my parents…)
Wait for it.
I work in HR at a mid-sized company. From reading applications and cover letters, all that needs to be said is that nobody under 25 is hireable, and even 25-30 year olds (my own bracket btw) are pretty hit-and-miss.
Seriously, we’re having real problems because we can’t find decent interns to fill in for permanent staff in the summer!
I’m 15, I make straight A’s, I’m decent looking, and sociable more or less. Setbacks? I’m short, don’t play guitar, and I have morals. Soo n this day and age I guess I won’t make it in life god bless America
My favorite in an essay from a student: “I don’t like writing and it don’t like me.” Really? I’m so shocked.
Make this a series!
I went from ‘this jerk should be fired’ to ‘this guy is a saint for his patience!’
Hang in there, teach’. It’s only beginning. I know what I’m talking about.
Man, that’s almost as bad as my students (5th graders) asking me why they need to learn math…
See, I can understand that from a calculus class (because, really, how often do most people use calculus?), but in elementary school, it’s just ridiculous.
I’m also a teacher. I think it’s a little odd to broadcast student comments on Facebook, but each to his own. I’m completely unsurprised by any of these. I’ve also been told by a parent they weren’t going to send their kid to my detention because “between 9 and 3 they are your problem, and you have to deal with it then. Don’t bother me with your problems. And no, I will not discuss this with my daughter.” Students are much less of a problem than parents are.
he obviously taught in a very black area.
you, sir, FAIL.
Well, I come to this site to laugh but that was just sad.
So stop complaining and start doing your job! This teacher should lose his/her job for using facebook as a tool to make jokes or humiliate their students. >:(
Ah yes, because it’s clearly the teacher’s fault that his one student’s mother allowed them to stay home for most of the year. It’s also the teacher’s fault that the other student has a 2 year old as a high school sophomore and it’s also his fault that the other parent is questioning why her child actually has to read in an English class.
YEAH! Impeach the teach!
If you kept up with current events, you would now know it is completely illegal to fire someone because of what he or she says about his job on Facebook. Something about freedom of speech.
Hmm. I googled “teacher blog fired” and “teacher facebook fired” and came up with all kinds of actual cases where it would appear that not only is it legal, it is quite common.
I wish I had this teacher on my friend’s list.
It is AMUSING as hell.
Everyone is happy to complain about the school system, and we all agree that it needs so much work, but when a parent does step up and take full responsibility for their childrens’ education, that’s also considered wrong. So, what’s the answer? My kids are not in a traditional school. They’re expected to learn every day, and they do not move from their seats until they’ve finished all assignments. They’re learning Latin and Grammar and Math, and are at, or above, grade level. I’m told, however, that it would be better to have them in the local school, where high school graduates come out not being able to spell simple words or speak in coherent sentences. Where’s the logic in that?
Children of parents who care and are motivated to see their child succeed are likely to do well regardless of whether they are sent to public school, private school, or home schooled. The mere fact that you, as a parent, are concerned about your child’s education and choose to involve yourself is a determining factor of their success.
While home school is a viable option, I personally think better options are available due to a combination of factors that are too lengthy and varied to discuss in a semi-random Failbook post.
Although, to be honest, I’ll point up at my first paragraph and acknowledge that the majority of home schooled children will probably be just fine. The adjustment from that type of schooling to “real life” may be harder for them than others, however.
Home schoolers tend to have the social skills of a neurotic chimp though. Hope you’re keeping them in constant contact with other kids.
The thing is, parents need to be involved with their kids, but now teachers are using that more and more as an excuse. Teachers still need to have control in their classroom.
Even though it’s a stupid film, I enjoy Tom Berenger in “The Substitute”.
I was just going to point that out. Every home schooled child I know ends up working dead end jobs because they can’t socialize with other people.
Not saying ALL HSers are like this. Just the ones I’ve known.
Aren’t all the “dead end jobs” usually working with people, though? Customer service? That’s very sad. Every homeschooler that I know has a good paying job. I just met one recently, which involves politics, working with people every day. My dh is in the nuclear field. His sister works at a medical practice. Another that I know is a Paralegal in a large law office in Atlanta. There are thousand of homeschoolers, so to say that they ALL go into dead-end jobs is incorrect. Poll the adults working at your local McDonalds: You’ll see that most were public schooled.
*whose job involves politics – My bad.
That’s a misnomer. My husband is homeschooled. He adjusted to real life just fine. There’s a whole generation of homeschoolers out there who are getting along well. It’s only the sheltered ones that have issues adjusting.
I just lol. I wouldn’t be surprised to see some of those kids wind up working in a fast food restaurant or anything worst.
What I find sad is the English teacher writes: “I called a parent … about THEIR child.” and “just had a student ask how is reading going to benefit THEM.” Evidently this English teacher is able to make the singular antecedent magically become plural when it is time for the pronoun! (and never mind the shift from indirect to direct discourse in the second example). This C- teacher is producing D- students!
I think he was trying to stay as vague as possible about the kids’ and parents’ identities, so he didn’t want to put ‘he’ or ‘she’, and the alternative was ‘it’.
“Singular They” has only been in use since the 15th century.
By “the second example”, I take it you mean the direct quote of the student’s use of indirect discourse?
My mother is an English teacher in a inner city school and she gets these kinds of problems on a daily basis. I know, I help her read the essays written by her students. It is sad and honestly… I wish there was something more we could do. But by high school, it’s really too late. The education system failed them when they were younger, and now the kids are at the point where they’re going to struggle their whole lives.
It’s not the system, it’s their PARENTS. Education begins at home. You can have an awesome teacher and if your parents are crap you’ll be crap and vise-versa.
want more from this guy
They need Bears in school. Students who misbehave should be mauled to death and that one parent,that one deserves a firing squad.
A teacher starting a sentence with “And”…. Must surely be an English major!
Or journalism.
Starting a sentence with “and” is acceptable for emphasis. One just shouldn’t do it all the time.
D: *crosses the teaching part off her major* I would be driven to drink and smoke all day over that kind of crap. I’d rather be a starving artist writing books for hippies! Hippies care!
The sad thing here is that if the school officials read this, he’d/she be fired.
The one where the parent said they should take care of his son while he was in school is just… depressing. I so can’t wait till this world ends and we’re replaced by talking monkeys.
We are talking monkeys if you think about it
I thought WE were talking monkeys.
(oh, sorry, creationists.)
We’re not. If evolution was real there’d be no cast of Jersey Shore.
No, if god existed there would be no such thing as Jersey Shore. Why he created a pickle sucking “Snookie” I will never understand.
Makes my classmates seem like professors.
I want that teacher… I had a teacher 3 years ago with the last name Cook.. I wonder ^_^ xD
My goodness, this is exactly the reason why I would never want to be a teacher, unless they re-institute corporal punishment.
Winner winner chicken dinner.
battle cry: (repeat from my previous posts until everyone joins in)
BRING BACK THE “BOARD” OF EDUCATION!!!!!1!1!!!
Easy now. Excessive repetition leads to “bored of education”.
*facepalm* thank you for pointing out my personal fail. Your previous responses to my posts have been elevated from “intelligent discourse” to “brilliant person with wit”
“brilliant person with wit”
I fear that you are only half correct on the latter.
This is why I left teaching.
Stupid parents make for ignorant children
and ignorant children make for good eatin’
Not so much. The smart ones have a better diet, rich in unprocessed grains, fresh vegetables, and lean meats. With the ignorant, you can almost taste the dye in the paper their fast-food dinners were wrapped in. While farm-raised cretins may be attainable sustenance, the free-range cognoscenti are more tantalising to the palette in addition to their providing better sport in their hunt and capture.
Heh I don’t know about that. I know some really smart people who live off cheeseburgers and tacos, and some really really stupid people who eat pretty healthily.
I think this is excellent proof of why teachers need to be paid more.
No. No it’s not.
In California, 80% of the money we spend on education goes to teacher and administrator salaries and benefits like pensions and health care plans. Until this year, California teachers were the highest paid in the nation by far. You could have cut their salaries 20% and they’d STILL be #1. Yet they constantly scream they need more money.
The problem isn’t money, it’s the fact that most of it is wasted on overpaying teachers and administrators and only a sliver goes to classes itself.
I know you probably meant that teachers deserve more for their frustration, but we all have frustration in our jobs.
tl;dr
Haha, Americans… What would the world look like without you?
Wait… ._.
You all need to the heck.
Oh America. We were once a respectable country.
does he teach at high school or college? a high school sophomore with a 2-year old baby is rather disturbing…
a college sophomore with a 2 year old baby is also slightly disturbing, but far less so
It’s high school.
I have to post this. I just HAVE to. This is a conversation between me and the rest of my class during algebra.
Girl 1: GOD! When am I going to need this!?
Me: You do know that you’re going to need math and science for a job.
Girl 1: No I’m not!
Me: Yes you are.
Girl 1: NO I’M NOT!
Me: What are you going to be when you grow up that doesn’t require math and science?
Girl 1: I’m going to be a slut.
Guy 1: Me too!
Girl 2: I wanna be a slut!
ALL OF MY CLASSMATES WANTED TO BE SLUTS. I swear to god that this is true.
I’m a high school English teacher and I saw this stuff when I worked in bad districts. I now work in a moderately nice school district and it’s rare. The parents here are very involved (sometimes TOO involved), but it makes things easier. When teachers have parents who will back them up, it’s easier to get things done in class.
Are those FJ thumbs I see?
I’ve lost faith in humanity a long, long time ago…
Teachers are so full of themselves. Bunch of asses.
Yes, they’re all so high and mighty imparting wisdom into the minds of our youth! Damn them and their grossly high salaries!
I live in Houston Texas, and the magnet program is like the horrid abomination of this school and a competent program. There is 1/3 of my two classes THAT CAN NOT STOP TALKING. One of the teachers decided that we cant go to lunch until we stop talking and we often were late 25 minutes, and our lunch time was 30 minutes. There was even some special movie days that they f*cked up so badly that the teachers actually became red. Though the part that gets to me is the fact that today our field trip that costed 59.35 dollars to a camp was canceled due to the people constantly talking. Words cannot describe how pissed of me and my parents are, and i gotta feeling that most of this is caused by the tactics the teachers use, which is peer pressure which fails as much as ping due to the fact that the talking part is wrapped up in their face book world. Now the main part of that that gets to me is that they blamed yours truly, sspros, since me and my friends were able to sit together.
The passion in these posts is awesome! It’s great that so many people care about education even if many of the proposed solutions are — well — not necessarily of the highest caliber.
One thing I must point out is that we now expect children to learn an enormous amount of material in a short period of time, and much of that material has dubious purpose or use.
As an example, my grandmother was one of the first women to graduate with a math degree from U.C. Berkeley (early 1900s). The highest level of math required for that degree was one year of calculus. A century later, and every child to pass through our K-12 school system, regardless of ability or interest, is expected to study up to pre-calculus or higher. I teach high school and remedial math, and I can safely say “It ain’t gonna happen, people!”.
Really? Pre-calc? Our standardized test (one of the ones the No Child Left Behind people LOVED when they came up with that idea) goes up to trig, I think. Graduation is based on credits, not level, so you have to have 4 years of math, but if that’s remedial math, so be it.
Teacher must be in the Detroit Public Schools system.
This is sad but it goes both ways. When my son was in elementary school, about 20 years ago, I told his teacher I was concerned about his handwriting. Her comment was that its not important because one day everyone will be using computers. She was right about the computers, but really now…
This post made me lose any interest in teaching the next generation. I’m sad now
…………………..and scared!
I never understood how these people can be like this.
At my high school, even the stupid people were fairly smart. Nobody was EVER this dumb.
I’d also like to say everyone is vastly overestimating the average intelligence of the past generations, they weren’t any smarter than we are now honestly, it’s just that there is more information around today that can make people look dumber.
My guess….this is a Detroit school.
Too bad this teacher doesn’t notice the students who are trying, or the students who are excelling. Too bad the “future generations” are judged by the worst examples, rather than by the best – or even the mediocre. I was prepared to laugh, now I’m just sad.
Doesn’t the NUMEROUS FAIL issues the students are having kinda say something about the teacher? In this rare instance TEACHER=MEGAFAIL.
POssibility of being a new teacher. tsk tsk tsk
Okay, where are these stupid people? I see them all over on the internet, and though I know some dumb people, nobody’s THIS dumb.
* “as they are written”
This is making me skeptical about my degree in education…
This is why I stopped teaching at LAUSD (Los Angeles Unified School District.) The amount of support provided by the parents was as detrimental to the students as the lack of interest from the teaching staff. Disheartening and tragic.
At my private (k-12) school,
1. it is a violation of policy to, among other things, remove splinters, post full names on bulletin boards, and use the words “punishment”, “trouble”, and “pew pew!” (while running around making a finger pistol)
2. a kid got suspended for about 3 days for CRACKING ANOTHER STUDENT OVER THE HEAD WITH A LAPTOP he reads on constantly in class (when’s he’s not sleeping)
3. a kid cussed out the teacher and later was praised by her
4. we don’t have a working stapler and have to share the projector, but get tickets for not misbehaving that go into a lottery for a $25 gift card
5. the teachers don’t correct glaring errors (factual and grammatical) in essays because they don’t want to discourage the kids
6. I got in trouble for writing a dirty joke on a birthday card for the guy in #3, though he uses those EXACT SAME jokes in class on a daily basis
i could go on but you get my drift
Horrible…. just horrible.
*twitch*Somebody…*twitch twitch* kill…me…!