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That was bad ass..
I think what is truly bad ass here is that batman watches not only lord of the rings, but harry potter as well…
Watches? Heck, he might even be able to READ! The mind boggles…
Reads? I think not. There is a major difference between the books and the movies in regard to the imprisonment of Gandalf.
Before his imprisonment he met with Rattagar(sp? I don’t have the book on me) the Brown. During that meeting, Gandalf instructed Rattagar to go forth and gather information and send word back to the Isengard to Sauromon or Gandalf. It was one of the messengers, a great eagle, who brought word and learned of Gandalf’s imprisonment and freed him.
It’s Radagast (the Brown). Understandable that you might forget, though.
A more fair comparison might actually be Radagast the brown and Dumbledore. Since Radagast was the most powerful wizard after Saruman and Gandalf
Saruman*
I might have a heart attack if I find someone who has actually READ both series. I thought I was the ONLY ONE.
He’s wrong, but still.
Don’t keel over, but RIGHT HERE!
I’ve read both series…
*evil laugh* Hope you’re not dead now.
*Raises hand* Me! ME!
I’ve read both of them multiple times
Also read both and have seen all of the movies for both.
Have read both, plus the Hobbit. Have watched all the LOtR movies, but really need to see the Harry Potter films.
I’ve read it! In English! This is awesome because English is not my native language. it’s Norwegian. And we generally suck at English.
I guess you’re quite dead now, am I right? (Me too, have read both of ‘em.)
no you are not the only one! I’ve been reading Harry Potter once a year for the last 3 years. before that about 4times a year!
and I read Lord Of the Rings twice.
I think I must add that I’m killing him also. I’ve read and watched all of both. Hands up if you’ve read The Hobbit too!
I have also read both series plus the hobbit and seen all the movies
I even threw in the Silmarillion for good measure!
I read both series at least once a year…sometimes twice.
I’ve read them both, also read The Hobbit (There and Back Again), The Silmarillion, and The Children of Húrin. Put that in your juice box and SUCK IT.
You are win. I’ve read all of those as well.
Me as well. I feel epic.
You fail for not reading the Unfinished Tales of Númenor and Middle-earth. I’m not even going to mention The Adventures of Tom Bombadil!
OMG I absoulty love both of these series i have them both on habd and have read all the harry potter multiple times but i only read LOTR once but i went out and bought The Hobbit as well.
hahahahaha i had heard about the LOTR movies and my mom was like no movie until after you read the book so i went to my dad an he was like you have to read The Hobbit first. I was soo pissed but now Ive read the whole series and seen all movies, plus The Hobbit the play and The Silmarillion is on my list to read next. I know, I’m pathetic.
Plus I’ve read and reread the HP series so many times and even read them backwards. The movies are awesome too lol
I have not only read both about 12 times each, I own both . . . I’ve read the Hobbit too . . . still need to read the Silmarillion though. *total nerd*
I love you
The Silmarillion is awesome, you should also read the Children of Hurin.
not only did i read them both, but i took a college english class on tolkiem, in which we read the silmarillion, children of hurin, and lotr, and i am going to read all 12 volumes of the history of middle earth
Given Batman’s reasoning, ok, Gandalf wins. He converted me
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However, I must ask: Why does Batman watch that? Doesn’t he have a world (ok, it’s just a city, but I wanted to make him feel good :p) to save?
He reads in one hand and punches out villains with the other. He is the Dark Knight.
Yes, Batman does have a city to save, but when the bat signal isn’t blinking, what do you think he does? And I know in his batvision goggles, he can see perfectly, but I’m pretty sure he reads LOTR in a tree, or ontop of a building, so if he sees the bat signal, he can mark his page and spring into action.
It also explains why Gandalf has no children, who would continue the legacy of coolness.
It would make him less cool. The proportion of coolness for an adult character is an inverted ratio to the number of children they have been directly responsible in some way. Thus Gandalf is cooler, because he’s never had to deal with any child in a responsible effort as Dumble has.
He might have children to carry on the coolness though… he just has to stay the hell away from them!
oh also… gandalf has a MOTHER F-ING DRAGON FIREWORK (that WAS his wasn’t it… been a while since i saw the movie)
I forget. I DO, however, remember his stampede of water horses made from a river.
Actually it was the girl elf that made the water horses
Actually that was Lord Elrond that made the water horses
Actually that was Goku that made the water horses.
Well played good sir.
I love you! Such a great reply
It was Lord Elrond’s daughter that made the water horses (at least it was in the film).
Elrond made the flood, Gandalf added the horses…
but dumbledore planned his death to save the world from a wizard who has a problem with gay people, because voldemort wanted dumbledore and harry dead and according to j.k rowling, dumbledore is gay, and i’m sure majority of people today will say that harry is to dispite his marrying of ginny
*Because of his marrying Ginny
But really I don’t think Harry is gay, he just has no taste in women.
Gingers are hawt.
oh cruel!! Ginny is badass, at least in the movies!
As long as you’re going to be picky about things like capitalization, find the period (full stop) key. You’re not as clever as Faulkner.
If we’re going to be completely picky, then it is “capitalisation”. I only say this because both books in context have British authors, thus spelling and grammar must be used as they would have done.
Yep, Abed sure knows how to break it down.
Nor one, not the other. Raistlin Majere would fry them both.
If we’re talking D&D wizards, I wanna see Raistlin v. Elminster. I don’t know who I’d give that one to…
However awesome Leminster might be, his GF is awesomer than he is AND is actually half goddess. The Symbul FTW
The exact same thing, that’s what I was thinking
He forgot to mention that gandalf has a MOTHER F-ING DRAGON FIREWORK… that is some awesome right there
But dont forget Gandalf could have given Frodo an eagle and saved a) A WHOLE LOT OF TIME and b) BOROMIR’S LIFE oh and c) Like A MILLION SOLDIERS
You got that off of ”How the lord of the rings should of ended” Didn’t you
Yeah, but that ending would destroy the ”Yo mamma’s so fat that when she walks by a TV all 3 parts of LOTR finish” (of course, pronounced in better english than displayed here)
That’s retarded.
seconded
Wait, that doesn’t make sense.
By the time she walks by they are finished. She is just so massive and slow that she takes FOREVER AND EVER, while the movies only take forever.
thanks captain obvious!
Wait, what’d I do?
You mean, “Your momma’s so slow that if she walks by a TV playing the LOTR trilogy, by the time she passes it all three are finished.”
wherever he got it, he’s right, lord of the rings should have ended like that, that would have been a lot easier! but then again, if lord of the rings had ended like that, there wouldn’t have been any books or movies…
There are reasons the Eagles couldn’t help Frodo *cough* Wyverns the Nazghul rode *cough*.
Boromir was already dead when they all met at Council in Rivendale when the Ring started to whisper sweet evil to him.
Gandalf apparently didn’t believe in Magic Missile or he’d have shot one at the darkness to end it all. (<— Summoner Geeks reference)
WAIT WAIT I WANNA GET DRUNK
ARE THERE ANY GIRLS AT THE BAR?
nope
just trannies here.
Boromir was not already dead when they met at the Council. For three reasons:
- At the scene where Boromir dies, he dies trying to protect the group from the soldiers of the White Hand, and takes several arrows to the chest like a boss. After that, Frodo seperates from the group to go on his own. Like, immediately after that.
- Boromir shows up in Moria, before and after. With the rest of the group that is, I dunno, PUT TOGETHER at the Council.
- Where the heck would the image macro of “One does not simple walk into Mordor” come from if Boromir is already dead?!
Also, they’re not Wyverns. They’re Fell Beasts.
Please make a “whooshing” sound as you pass your flattened hand over your head in a front-to-back motion.
you ARE aware right, that the creature were called Nazgul, not Wyverns. The witchking was not a nazgul
The ringwraiths ARE the Nazgul. The Witch King is the most powerful of the nine Nazgul. The beasts they ride are, to my knowledge, never named in the books or the movies. The only name I have ever seen attached to the flying mounts is a fairly generic “Fellbeasts” from the LotR miniatures game from Games Workshop.
But I agree. Frodo riding Gwaihir would probably get owned by all nine Nazgul on their flying mounts.
studygirl, you are right, because all movies should end like a childrens cartoon where every one gets off scott-free! LOTR would be amazing if it only lasted 10 minutes with gamdalf doing everything, after all, that’s what movie making/book writing is all about.
*gandalf… you’d think i would spell check a rant like that
You’d think you’d capitalize a rant like that.
sarcasm, get it? read the last sentence of my post: “then again, if lord of the rings had ended like that, there wouldn’t have been any books or films”
You have the worst use of a sarcasm I have ever seen.
Seconded, but she sounds hot, so I withdraw my second this day
And that’s a bad thing?…. LOTR, short version. Froto: Oh snap, I found a ring. Gandoff: Ride this Eagle to this mountain and drop the ring init. Froto: ahh maaaan. |NEXT SCENE| Froto drops ring in mountain… The end. Best two minute movie ever, including title and credits. No one dies, peace is restored in less then an hour. WIN
Maybe, but then Frodo, Boromir and the million soldiers wouldn’t have had the character building experience that they did. It’s all about the greater good.
THE GREATER GOOD…
THE GREATER GOOD.
THE GREATER GOOD…
THE GREATER GOOD…
The redundant redundance of these comments are redundantly redundant.
THE GREATER GOOD.
The grea– ALL GLORY TO THE HYPNOTOAD!
I R Baboon
Because I’m sure all those soldiers gained a lot of character building as they died. Oh books and how you make us think life should have main characters. “Sure pretty much all of Gondor is dead, but hey! Faramir isn’t as torn up about his brother dying as he used to be.”
Does nobody know why the LOTR was created? It’s long, because one of J.R.R Tolkien’s relatives was in a Nazi Death Camp. He would send him one part of the book at a time, that way, he would have something to look forward to, and not die. A two-minute LOTR would be stupid. He would have no story.
Going back to the HP argument, without LOTR, there would be no HP.
I always thought the story(ies) were created for entertaining his child(ren).
he wrote the hobbit, then wanted to finish the silmarillion, which he started at 19(or something like that), worked on for the rest of his life and never finished, but his publisher wanted a sequel to the hobbit. he had no clue where the story was going for a verylong time as he was writing it. i know this because i took a college english class (it was real and awesome) on it, and am in the process of reading J.R.R. Tolkien, Author of the Century by Tom Shippey. but some stories were for his kids. Rover, for instance, was a story told to his son, based on his son actually losing a toy, then later written down and published (that’s in the book)
That’s Dumbledore speak!
But it would have made the story awfully short; Tolkein wouldn’t have gotten rights for 3 books and nobody’d know.
Yes and sam could of gave frodo a bj and then the movie would have actually ended logically…
Ha ha! YES!
Could we move beyond the whole “could of” thing? It’s “COULD HAVE”, people. As in, Sam *could have* given Frodo a bj.
How about we take a little time to think about the language we speak before we speak it?
LOTR is still way more logical than any of the plots in any of teh HP movies…
Seriously, the death eaters should have listened in “Strategy and Tactics 101″
yeah, seriously, they got beaten by children, just want to point that out, THESE ADULTS, WHO CAN KILL SOMEONE BY SAYING TWO WORDS, WERE DESTROYED BY SCHOOL CHILDREN
I think JKR was saying a lot about Wizarding Society’s abandonment from logic through this. They’re taught to fight one on one, not in a battlefield.
Regardless, I agree. >____> He didn’t even finish school! And he beat Voldemort! wtfffffff.
WIN!
Fair point, however you must also remember that the Death Eaters are all descended from pure-blood families. The pure-bloods had been reduced to marrying second cousins and whatnot to keep the blood lines pure for quite some time. So, it would stand to reason that the Death Eaters probably all suffer varying degrees of retardation due to a long family history of inbreeding. So it may not be so far fetched that they were defeated by a couple high school drop outs.
Gandalf lives for getting his hands dirty. Like, give Frodo an eagle – f**k that! Gandalf plays it hard-core, and don’t mind placing other people’s lives at stake doing so. As opposed to Dumbledore, who avoids just about any confrontation involving people of lesser size. No matter what, Gandalf WINS.
Giving Frodo an eagle would be admin ab00se.
But it was about the journey…not the simplest solution.
Yeah, but if you read the books and if the movie had actually bothered to explain this, the eagles despise everyone else and only did Gandalf personally that one favor because the king of the eagles owed him his life. They wouldn’t have carried the fellowship all the way across Mordor. Also, all those Nazgul flying around? Yeah, they would have eaten the eagles and taken the ring. Sooo…yeah, HISHE isn’t the best reference to go off of.
But they still had Gandalf Raping Day? Right?
THIS!
Thanks for clearing it out to people who watch funny clips and think they are meaningful.
THIS.
Not really though, because Sauron would have seen and killed the giant eagle. Nerd up already.
Actually it couldn’t have happened that way. The “eagle” was a phoenix. It was tied to gandalf. He probably had some sort of a mental connection with it or control over it. There is no guarantee that frodo could have piloted the thing. We saw in the beginning of the first movie that it was extremely easy to temp gandalf or any creature for that matter with the power of the ring. If the story happens as you proposed either gandalf would have taken the ring and used it to give himself power and evil or the evil would have. Frodo was the only person who could reliably do it. Even gandalf could not resist its temptations.
refer yourself to Hanna’s post regarding the eagles.
Just sayin’, but if you’d read the hobbit you would understand that it WAS just a huge eagle (Not sure which one is being mentioned atm) That Gandalf had helped and befriended their species, because he is just that amazing.
Not to mention, Gandalf was ‘dead (He had fallen down into the chasm and been saved)’ when Frodo left the fellowship to continue on toward Mount doom and destroy the ring, while the others were intent on talking.[/nerdrant]
You’re not sure which eagle was being referred to? That would be Gwahir.
If they actually had flown over the Crack of Doom Frodo wouldn’t have been able to drop the Ring in anyway, when they did get there he gave in to its temptation and tried to steal it. The only reason it did actually get destroyed was because Gollum showed up and bit off Frodo’s finger. If they did fly over it wouldn’t have happened.
I have to argue that had they flown over the Crack of Doom (therefore the entire journey taking far less time) I think Frodo could have dropped it in as he wouldn’t have spent months “bonding with” and taking care of the ring, which was why he couldn’t do it when standing at the precipice. Just sayin.
What’s done is done. You can’t change the past.
Ah, but the giant eagle that saves Gandalf in the movie (and at some point in the books…been awhile since I read them all) is Gwaihir, the Eagle Lord. The eagles generally look down on all other races and only came to fight because the Lord owed Gandalf a favor!
So Gandalf WINS! again because the Lord of the Eagles owes him one!
But don’t forget that nobody would have found that very exciting or a good story.
Dumbledore
reasons people!
because dumbledore’s a boss, man!!!!!!!!
His balls ARE made of steel!
Well, you WOULD know!
ohhhhhhhh burn!!!!^^^^^
Yes, but Dumbledore could have apparated to the place where they tossed the ring in. There done. Wouldnt have had to have had anyone killed by a bunch of arrows or anything. All done.
wouldn’t there be a shield like there was over hogwarts?
you, sir, fail so bad that you have to repeat the exam.
He could still apparate right outside of Mordor and save a whole ton of time.
Besides, if there were wands involved, all this fighting of armies could be avoided. Someone could have Avada Kedavra’d Sauron and been done with it.
The same can be said of Voldemort and the entire harry potter series, could it not?
No, the ring would have to be destroyed anyway because it was a Horcrux.
not to mention one little detail… Sauron can’t be killed without destroying the ring. What do you think the problem was during the first war?
By the Harry Potter definition, the Ring was a horcrux. Hadda destroy it first. Sauron had already been killed once before, but Isildur kept the Ring instead of destroying it. Sauron just came back.
I’m willing to bet LotR was where Rowling got the idea for a horcrux in the first place.
Blue is the Internet equivalent of the guy who eats nails and spits out screws.
lol sure
“Bad asser”?
Badder-ass?
Badder-asser?
comboer —-breaker er er
* more bad ass.
oh is that the creepy moulin roue lady??
/just had a modern art exam w00t
/still knows title of “Consecration of Napoleon” by heart
Good eye, I did a study on Toulouse Lautrec in High School.
It’s worseass. But Gandalf is worstass anyway.
TL’DR!
Haha, that was great!
PS: Sarumon? Was that a first-gen Pokemon or one of the later games?
it was a digimon……
Well that explains why I was sure it sounded familiar.
Go watch/read The Lord of the Rings.
Have done both. Haven’t seen a Sarumon there, only Saruman.
remember Huzz, if mon is at the end it’s either a digimon or a jamaican
I shall remember that, thank you for reminding me, Kratos. (Though, in this case, I’m pretty sure it’s digimon.)
Your name sir is worthy of being a Greek god. Just sayin’.
Lawyer’d !
@blue Batman-looking guy; call me
You, blue Batman-looking guy, can’t spell “Saruman”.
gampdalf, dumblebee.. who cares, they’re both gay
Gandalf: the actor was gay, the character was asexual.
Dumbledore: the actor was straight, the character was gay.
Lmao, he wasn’t ASEXUAL, that would imply he could reproduce with himself.
He wasn’t any sexuality at all.
You fail so hard…
Whatever do you think asexual means? Seriously, I’m quite sad for people like you ;(
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/asexual
See definition 2.
jackoff and bumblebee – who’s on top?
gampdalf, dumblebee.. who cares, they’re both about as straight and interesting as ballet.
said bob, the closet ballerina
yep, bob most probably touches himself at night, moaning their names.
>.< The images….
They're not enjoyable.
so this one time, at band camp..
Gandalf didn’t die when he fought the balrog. The killed it, gained XP enough to level-up.
dammit… HE killed it
It’s been a while since I read the books, but if I remember, he didn’t die at all fighting the Balrog. He killed it and made it’s way out of the abyss.
Nah, he says something about dying at some point.
Yes, he died. But he was “sent back until [his] task was complete”. Yes, this is a direct quotation.
That is probably one of the best comments on here so far
Where’s Wally in all of this?
at yo Mommas!
Did no one pick a third option and write in Obi-Wan Kenobi?
Disappoint. But still a good argument from Blue.
Gandalf is a figure of Christ… straight from the mouth of JRR Tolkien.
That may have been Tolkien’s intention but he created a character way cooler and more bad-ass than Christ.
Apparently you haven’t read Paradise Lost, because JC is a huge badass, Satan wont even mess with him.
Gandalf may have been able to … do all kinds of epic stuff, but could he bring multiple people back from the dead? Or come back from the dead himself (And he wasn’t the one who sent him back to Middle-Earth btw)?
And Harry is the figure of Christ in HP, of course.
tolkien never said any such thing. he absolutely hated allegory unless it matched up exactly and had a specific purpose (he didn’t like Narnia, even though he was friends with Lewis) and he denied any and all christian or world war references in his books
Gandolf ftw! lol But it is kind of hard to choose, one being from a childrens book, and the other not. *shrug* Blue Batman guy, you said it
Actually Gandalf was originated from a children’s book himself, “The Hobbit”.
The Hobbit came after the LOTR trilogy as a prequel.
the hobbit was written well before LOTR. tolkien’s publisher wanted him to write a sequel to the Hobbit. do a little research before you say something that stupid
Gandalf as he is in the hobbit and lotr is from a children’s book, but assuming tolkien was always thinking of him as a Maya, which would not surprise me at all knowing just some of the complexity of lotr and the silmarillion, Gandalf already existed in The Silmarillion, which was started long before the hobbit, and worked on long after
LOTR was a children’s book. Unfortunately since the advent of televison and video games children were expected to read simpler and simpler stuff. But in the early 20th century alot of children learned how to read from the Bible, so the LOTR books weren’t that hard for a 10 year old to read.
In fact the longer the read the better, it kept the children out of mom’s hair while she did the laundry. In a basin…by hand…with a washboard…in lye.
LoTR was an adult book. The Hobbit was a children’s book.
Fellowship of the Rings was written for children.
*Ring, not rings.
As I understand it, not just for any children, but for his own.
It was neither for children nor adults.
That was the problem for alot of people. they couldn’t figure out who the books was written for.
That’s The Hobbit you’re thinking of. FotR was not an independent work. LotR was only published in 3 volumes for cost reasons: paper was very expensive in postwar UK.
Semifinals: Gandalf vs Chuck Norris.
Show your work. Winner goes up against Betty White.
Nice one.
Gandalf Win
Charles Norris is only great in his own mind and that of fanboyz intent on ruining the interwebs.
Gandalf crawls out of an abyss looking better then when he fell in.
Dumbledore is a douche. I love him, I swear, but he withheld information, tried to gather the Deathly Hallows for himself, continuously put his students in dangerous situations, ignored students causing injury to other students, blatantly favoured one house and one student over all others, and covered up the death of his sister.
Gandalf rules, yo.
No Gandalf had nothing to do with Christ. From his letters:
“Thus Gandalf faced and suffered death; and came back or was sent back, as he says, with enhanced power. But though one may be in this reminded of the Gospels, it is not really the same thing at all. The Incarnation of God is an infinitely greater thing than anything I would dare to write. Here I am only concerned with Death as part of the nature, physical and spiritual, of Man, and with Hope without guarantees.”
I hate it when people try to mix Christianity in with everything.
So he the creator of Gandalf thought it almost heresy to compare Gandalf to “The Incarnation of God”.
Hmmm…
Tolkien also wrote not to confuse applicability with allegory. Gandalf’s character is a Christ character for the world of Middle-Earth, but he is NOT per se.
Plus him revering Christ as high as to never create a character to mimic him would be admitting his own Christian belief, wouldn’t it?
Now, with that in mind, Dumbledore sucks. I hated him since the very first book when he unfairly favored Gryffindor over everyone else, and became even more of a bastard by putting children in danger by withholding useful information.
Most people I know aren’t geeky enough to appreciate the differences. It’s a damn shame.
Let’s split the difference and go with Ganondorf.
Dundledalf?
Zelda reference fail.
You sir, get a cookie
TL;DR and frankly who the hell cares?
Hell with this, combine the two! Dumblegalf!
nah dumbledore wins
I really wish I could click the like button on blue batman’s argument.
and what about this dude that helps a little kid pull a sword off a stone? uh… marlin? melvin? What was it?
Yeah, but…Merlin got himself sealed up in a tree.
A TREE.
This. Merlin is therefore disqualified.
dumbledore basically a school teacher.
gandalf basically a god.
no really a couple of references in the silmarrillion and lord of the rings indicate that gandalf and sauron were both minor gods
gandalf beats dumbledore by a mile
this.
There aren’t really references, in Silmarilion Tolkiena clearly says they are of (minor) divine origin – Sauron as Morgot’s servant and Gandalf, along with all his wizard dudes (Saruman, Radagast etc).
Dumbledore protected everyone (especially Harry, ever since he was born). He picks up on things quickly. No, he doesn’t ride bareback on a horse, but did he not die trying to save Harry (remember now, Harry had to be the one to defeat Voldemort (One cannot live while the other survives)). He pretty much sacrificed his life for all of mankind, muggle and wizard. Dumbledore did things the smart way, and planned WAY ahead of time (ever since Harry was born, and even before that).
Dumbledore wins, at least by what I think.
He also speaks over 600 languages, including Mermish. Who the heck takes the tame to learn Mermish???!
Dumbledore fails, since unlike Gandalf he was too much of a control freak to ACTUALLY TELL THE PEOPLE MOST AFFECTED WHAT THE PLAN WAS.
That’s just asinine.
If Dumbly would have told everyone the ‘plan’, it wouldn’t have worked. Read the books, yo.
Harry was connected to Voldy near the end. If Harry had known, there would have been risk that Voldy would have known also.
THANK YOU! Finally someone gets it!!
I read the books. It was still a lame excuse. All the *adult* characters frequently complained they didn’t know what Dumbledore’s plan was. He might have had a good reason for keeping it from Harry — but even Snape had to twist his arm to get any information out of him.
Dumbledore fails. That is all.
Actually, dumbledore didn’t die protecting harry.
He effectively got snape to euthanise him ‘cos he was too wuss to die by his injury. Read the last book sometime.
Actually, the post said “he did not die trying to save Harry”. Read the post you’re commenting on sometime.
Actually, the post said “did he not die trying to save Harry” indicating a question, not the statement you mis-quoted. Read the post sometime.
Actually, you Audra, earn one internet.
“Gandalf is a Demi-God”
Try saying that 5 times fast.
TL;DR
truth.
Did anyone else notice that every other person was for Gandalf?
So every other person was for Dumbledore too.
Unfortunately, Batman seems to have latched on to movie-Gandalf. The moth thing happened because they cut out the chunk of the narrative that accounted for the eagle showing up, forcing them to come up with some other means for Gandalf to be rescued.
Book-Gandalf was actually more badass. When the gates of Minas Tirith were blown open, movie-Gandalf sat down with Pippin and anticipated getting killed again. Book-Gandalf not only stood his ground, he single-handedly kept the Witch-king out until Rohan arrived.
As for the Eagle thing — they could not intervene directly because they were agents of the same Vala (one of the gods, in other words) who Gandalf was working for, and the Valar did not intervene directly in Middle-earth. This is why Gandalf and the other Istari didn’t confront Sauron directly themselves, and were purposely sent over in shapes too weak and in insufficient numbers to even make the attempt. So the Eagles might act to make a providential rescue once the main work had been done, or to be messengers, or to make a showing as signs of the Valar’s attention, but not as prime movers.
Yes, I’m a geek. I have accepted this.
Hm. I did not know about the Eagles being agents of a god. I should seriously consider reading the series.
It wasn’t in LotR. (Which wasn’t a series. It was only published in 3 volumes for cost reasons.) You have to get that from The Silmarillion or Unfinished Tales.
Hello, fellow geek
Nai aistalë Eldaron hilya le!
And yes, book-Gandalf was far more bad-ass.
Aiya Lytrigian! Mae Govannen!
Thanks you so much for posting this. It’s almost 5 in the morning here and I really didn’t want to have to try and remember and explain the about the moth not existing in the books and the eagles and how it is only explainable through the background of the Silmarillion. I’m far too sleep deprived at the moment to try to explain something as complex as the background of tLotR through the Silmarillion and all that.
Dumbledore is way more epic than Gandalf. He has a phoenix that explodes and teleports him. He doesn’t actually need a wand to perform magic. In the HP3 movie, he used ‘Aresto Momentum’ just by pointing his hand at Harry. He didn’t tell harry all of the stuff because he couldn’t do it to him. He couldn’t give such a great burden to him until it was absolutely necessary because he was way too caring. He could perform any spell but refrained from the most powerful ones because they were too evil. He doesn’t need a phoenix to teleport him but he used it cuz it was totally bad-ass. He can teleport anytime he wants. He can take voldemort head-on and is a match for him if it weren’t for the horcruxes. There is no way that Gandalf can pwn Albus Percival Wilfic Brian Dumbledore.
Gandalf: An incarnated spirit who existed before the creation of the world, an instrument in the Great Music that shaped it and who assisted in its ordering after God called it into being, send back after death by that same God to complete his unfinished work, which he successfully did; the only one of his order to remain faithful to his original mission and not, after more than two thousand years, fall prey to worldly temptations.
Dumbledore: An old guy with a magic stick.
Yeah, sure.
You do Dumbledore no justice, he was not just an old guy with a stick. He was far more, the least you can do is say that they’re equal
they most definitely are not equal. Gandalf is way better
Gandalf is not the only one to remain faithful to his original mission. the others just didn’t have a part in it. that being said, Gandalf is still way better
Probably the most epic thing I have ever read.
Here’s my question: If Gandalf is so great, why did he /walk/ the whole way with the lot, when he could have just gotten his big eagle friends to fly them all to Mordor? Not only would he NOT have died to begin with, but NO ONE would have died, and they wouldn’t have had to endure all the pain and suffering of the trip. And Dumbledore OBVIOUSLY knew more about the Horcruxes than he told Harry, and he knew he was going to die eventually (either from Snape or the Horcruxes). So why did he keep so much hidden from Harry? I think it’s safe to say that both wizards could have helped out a LOT more than they actually did. So let’s just all agree that neither are better than the other. They’re both awesome, but both had those tremendous flaws that could have made the difference.
Have you seriously not been reading the above discussion on the Eagles in the Silmarillion? The movies left so much out of the books and the whole series rather, that it’s actually a crime against Tolkien…read the above discussion on why the Eagles didn’t interfere and then find a better debate. And he didn’t exactly walk either. He had Shadowfax. Learn your literature.
No one “wins” here because everyone is talking about a fictional character from a book.
It’s a book. It is Harry Potter. He is not awesome.
You’re right, we should be comparing Tolkien and Rowling, and being as we are human, we should compare their worth as a person… THEIR WEALTH!
Srsly, this is the internet, your “It’s a book, it’s a fictional character” rational has no merit here.
You’re right, discussing fictional characters is lame! you know what we should do? Compare real life people! Tesla or Edison? I can just feel the excitement. Just let people have their fun, will ya?
Tesla. Has death ray, weapon named after him is featured in a number of badass games, and Bowie plays him in “Prestige”.
The last one is really a game-winner.
Tesla has a whole Unit named after him (Magnetic Flux Density I believe). Edison managed to find a good use for electricity.
A better comparison would be, Maxwell or Einstein?
man, if I’d known Lord of the Rings was that bad ass, I might have read it high school.
I never read the book, but i did watch the movie. That may be what he’s talking about. I dunno. After reading Harry Potter, every other book just looks unappealing.
I’ve read both HP and LOTR multiple times. LOTR wins, hands down.
As have I, and I disagree. While I loved them both, Harry Potter is a far more engaging story.
It obviously goes on taste, but imho, Harry Potter can be simply read and understood, LOTR requires understanding and thought.
Who survived the fall?
Buahaha
Mithrandir survived, along with the Balrog of Morgoth. They fought under the mountains, up the Winding Stair, to the peak of Zirak-Zigil, from which Gandalf threw down his opponent upon the mountainside, where he smote it in his ruin. Or something like that =)
Complete and total win.
Did anyone really read this? I just saw the Harry potter guys name and the lord of the rings guy and thats about it, I guess its a pretty big fail that anyone could make that long of a post about it
Judging by the number of comments here, I think a lot of us have read it.
What about Merlin? He’s the one who started it all. I think the coolest wizard is the archetypal one.
As discussed above, he was disqualified for ending up within a tree
Gandalf rules, he is like Moses and they both have big ass staffs thats can whoop candy ass. one thing i find ridiculous about Harry Potter is that maybe 3/4 of the spells are not fatal and the least they can do is injure you! WTF!
Exactly. And how the f*ck can you just invent spells?
If they haven’t been invented yet. lol
Wait, don’t forget that he, survived the holocaust, stoped a semi dead in it’s tracks, and, oh yeah, lifted the entire Golden Gate Bridge and landed it on Alcatraz! Yeah, beat that Dumbledore!
Wait… I may have mixed up movies .
lol
My husband does that all the time. And I beat him for it.
Brilliant
Deadliest warrior III: Gandalf vs. Dumbledore.
All sorts of win…
“Gandalf is a Demi-God” is a bigger win actually… That person in all likelyhood actually read and understood the nearly incomprehensible book The Silmarillion.
Psh, I read that book in 8th grade.
Too bad I barely remember any of it. That book was HARD. I’ve been wanting to read it again in hopes that I’ll understand it better.
Yeah, the fact that you read it in 8th grade doesn’t matter because you didn’t understand it. If you had understood it then you would be epic and could say “Psh. . . .”
Read Lord of the Rings when I was in third-fourth grade.
understood everything.
Can I go “psh…” now?
I first read it when I was in 7th grade, read LOTR in 4th. The Hobbit in 3rd. The Silmarillion requires a lot of re-reading to make it all fit in with the later history in The Hobbit, and LOTR. Check it out at any library, or find an ebook copy online. It is worth the read.
I just can’t believe people have those kinds of discussions. Lovely.
Hey, get off then.
i know this is just the internet.
but i thought both books/movies exceedingly dull. i mean, the story is cute, but i just couldn’t agree with the argument.
Imagination is required, from your previous comment, I guess you have none
Gandalf clearly wins.
“he shows up on the KING OF HORSES….RIDING BAREBACK”
hence, Gandalf can claim “I’m on a horse” and even possibly “I own a horse”, thereby creating a trilogy of meme’s and winning the internet (as well as the good vs evil fight)
“I’m on a horse.”–Old Spice commercial
(Gandalf to Dumbledore) You shall not surpass me in this voting poll!!
I really wish that batmans name wasn’t blanked out, I want to friend him!
Neither, both of them are homosexual. Dumbledore was outed by JK Rowling, while the guy who plays Gandalf is gay in real life. Bunch of pansies if you ask me…
Are you insecure about your own sexuality?
This
Im not a fan of LOTR, but i saw the 1st, the 2nd and part of the 3rd but what makes me think about it until today was:
If Gandalf was a freaking wizard/magician/whatever, how come i never saw him using magic of any kind? does he use in the book?
LotR magic is very subtle. No, he doesn’t use it a lot. It’s not even clear what is meant by magic: When Sam asks Galadriel about it once, she expresses confusion about the word even though she has what most might call a magic scrying pool.
We know of book-Gandalf use “magic” on several occasions though, some of them “off-camera”:
- His fireworks undoubtedly had something more than mere explosives to them.
- There was probably some kind of contest of wills between him and Saruman, leading to his imprisonment in Isengard. (Not that stupid telekinetic battle from the film.) He doesn’t actually say so — the confrontation with Saruman is told after the fact — but it’s a reasonable inference.
- He held off all 9 of the Nazgul on Weathertop for an entire night, a few days before Frodo’s party got there, in a manner involving fire and lightning.
- Lighting a fire on the slopes of Caradhras, during the unsuccessful attempt on Redhorn Pass.
- Fighting off the Warg in Eregion, outside Moria, with fire.
- Providing light as they walked through Moria.
- Holding a door shut against the Balrog with a “word of Command”
- Smashing the bridge while fighting the Balrog
- Protecting Frodo while he wore the Ring upon Amon Hen, after Boromir tried to seize it
- Defending himself against Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli when they mistook him for Saruman
- Healing Theoden
- Driving off the Nazgul with what looked like a beam of light from his hand, while rescuing Faramir from the field of battle
- Saving Faramir again when his father tried to cremate him prematurely
I might be forgetting one or two instances, but the fact you can name them off like this shows it’s not all that often.
yeah fire is really subtle magic
^lol
I think the OP’s username should be his next response
LoTR magic isn’t ‘Fireball!’ or ‘Blade Barrier!’
It’s more natural, more of influencing things rather than forcing them.
I agree with the other guy.
Besides in the movies there are some magic too
-Gandalf fireworks (seriously they wouldn’t be possible without some magic)
-The way he fought against Saruman
-Light in Moria
-Shield thingy around himself when he was fighting the Balrog
-Blasting Legolas’ arrow and Gimli’s throwing axe into pieces
-Making Aragorn’s sword smolder
-Make some sort of bright light that scared away the Nazgul
Gandalf came back from the dead, and knows the washing machine guy (Don’t ask). No contest.
Whatever…both eat footlongs and slurp the white stuff…gooy
Just my humble opinion, but I would have to say that Dumbledore > Gandalf for one simple reason. They are both wizards, but Gandalf seems to be very limited.
Dumbledore could get from the Shetland islands to Cornwall in under a second. And for Gandalf to cover that distance, he would need a minimum of three books.
You’re saying Dumbledore could teleport the other 8 members of the fellowship including the supplies?
That guy is stupid.. Right but stupid.. First of all It’s spelled Saruman. And he doesn’t show up with ‘everyone’.. he show up with granted most of the Rohirrim but alot of Rohans soldier actually stayed behind and was fighting when Gandalf showed up..
He doesnt ride on the King of horses but the Lord of horses..
Agreed. However… if you’re going to nit pick, at least check your grammar before posting.
Sorry dude.. Don’t really give a s**t about grammar when i’m on the internet.. I’m writing a comment not an Essay
So why are you commenting on his spelling of Sarúman?
I think th- OH LOOK A WOOPER
Dumbledore wins simply because HP the superior story.
LOTR fans can get onset cryabeetus all they want.
And yes, I’ve read the BOOKS for both.
Also, HP has Severus Snape, and Snape is GOD.
Congratulations, you prefer a book written for a dumbed-down audience with an inconsistent storyline.
Good for you.
HIGH FIVE!!!
HIGH FIVE ALSO!
I don’t see how anyone can possibly say HP has a superior story. Miss Riddle, are you aware of the magntiude of lore behind the LOTR series?
LOTR has very simple characters compared to Harry Potter and there is nothing inconsistent about the storyline.
Tim, I’m aware of this. I think Tolkien was brilliant for the sheer amount of lore that he created. That doesn’t make his writing any better, though. The books really weren’t that great and the characters were not completely formed. He let all the lore get in the way of creating decent characters.
I knew LOTR fans would get cryabeetus over it, though.
And btw, LOTR isn’t very ‘sophisticated’ writing, I’m sorry to say. They both seemed geared towards children/young adults.
Also, Tolkien’s lack of women bothers me to an extreme. I know that he wrote in a different period than Rowling and that it’s not really fair to blame him for it, but I do anyway.
Let me introduce you to someone named Eowynn, the one who killed the witch king.
And Arwén, the only female that can make the King of Men, a descendent of the Númenor, fall in love with her.
I like the HP books, but talk about bailing, Rowling was definitely too afraid to kill off on of the three main characters
plus all of the women in the Silmarillion, who were also very important. and Tolkien started the Silmarillion when he was 19, and continued working on it his whole life
…because HP IS the superior story.
I really should proofread.
Funny, you should say that.
Harry Potter and most other fictions of this genre are actually inspired by Lord of the Rings.
And honestly I don’t understand, how anyone could prefer a book where the author just makes up the stuff in the book, instead of a book where the author used over 20 years on writing it, wrote a book about the creation of the world he had written about beforehand, used hours and hours of studying ancient languages so he could create his own languageS (One of which has so many words and grammar stuff that you could actually learn this language and have conversations in it) , actually got inspiration from myths and ancient history to make his own story more realistic, Used hours of giving his characters names that actually meant something of was inspired by a word that meant something, wrote the whole trilogy (with more than a thousand pages) IN HAND and practically created a new type of genre of books.
So maybe you like Harry Potter better, but please don’t call it the superior story. Tolkien used over twenty years to write six books, which was of incredible quality and are very popular even after all these years, whereas Rowling would probably use three years to write twenty books and I truly believe that Harry Potter will be forgotten in a couple of generations..
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I agree with you, but it has been proven that the Hobbit is a small spin off from Beowulf
As mentioned above, he studied old scripts and myths to gather inspiration.
Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit are filled tot the brim with things from old legends.
So of course you’re going to find stuff from Beowulf in them. Beowulf was his biggest inspiration.
im i the only person that thinks all of these people need 2 get a girlfriend?
I argue over fictional characters and I AM a girl.
Although I don’t think my fiance would be too disappointed if I got a girlfriend, heh.
I agree with @lactoseintolerant , they are huge nerds and well then @Miss Riddle , you need a boyfriend.
Nerdiness, especially LOTR nerdiness, is an excellent quality.
THANK YOU! Please explain this to my sister
She has a fiancé, so she needs a boyfriend? Whut?!
..I need a boyfriend? I’m confused now. How do I need a boyfriend when I have a fiance? BRAIN HURT.
A girlfriend? I am a 23 years old nerd living in my parents’ basement and what is this?
I’m not sure my wife and daughter would agree that I need to get a girlfriend.
SO to sum up, you ARE the only person that thinks they need to get girlfriends.
GANDOLF!!!!!!111111 lol
Gandalf
Gandalf.
He actually told Frodo what was going on and what to do to accomplish the goal. Dumbledore, on the other hand, kept secrets and figured that the Boy Who Lived would figure things out in the end. And not to mention that in order to accomplish killing Voldemort, Harry had to -SPOILERS WITHHELD-, which is something that Dumbledore knew all along but decided not to mention.
On the other hand, Gandalf to Frodo: “Look, it’s dangerous. You could die.” Frodo: “For the Shire! And for Foot Razors!”
The reason Mithrandir (Gandalf) could not just have defeated Sauron straight up is because they were equals on the hierarchy of The Valar (the gods), but Sauron was armoured-up. Mithrandir had spent has entire previous existence in the Blessed Realm. Sauron had resided in Middle Earth interacting with Men and Elves for thousands and thousands of years, the chief remaining servant of Melkor, who, at the time of LOTR was chained up in The Void. As a matter of fact, Sauron had three times already come very close to conquering Middle Earth: 1) during the War of the Silmarils (aiding Melkor); 2) by corrupting the Númenóreans and leading them in an attack on The Blessed Realm; 3) when, wielding the One Ring, he was only barely defeated by Gil-Galad and Elendil.
So, Sauron was not only wise in dealings with Men and Elves, he’d benefited from the ring-building studies of the Noldor, and he’d taken the risk of pouring all his power-making into One Ring. That gave him an initial advantage over Mithrandir, who arrived on the shores of Middle Earth armed only with his staff and the power therin. Cirdan handed him a ring (Narya), and that helped. Sauron was far ahead.
If Mithrandir or Frodo would have attempted to fly The Ring over the mountains on an Eagle and into the mouth of Mt. Doom, Sauron would have detected this and, as stated by others, sent all nine Nazgul (his air force) to shoot them down.
The ring only went into the fire when protected by the ethos of rejecting power.
.p.s. who is dumbledore?
Dumbledore is gay, so how is he even in the running?
So is Gandalf you twit.
Technically, the person who “plays” Gandalf is gay. Dumbledore is just gay.
But Gandalf, the actual wizard isn’t gay. The guy who plays Dumbledore also isn’t gay (I don’t think.) So, they cancel each other out.
I’ve read both series. How can anyone NOT say Gandalf?
How can one compare a Demi god with a Wizard? If one watches only the movie Lord of the rings and never read any lore about middle earth one might be mistaken to believe that Gandalf is a mere Wizard of sorts. this however is not true. Gandalf existed even before the creation of the world. he was even an instrument in its creation after god called it into being. There are alot of complex reasons for why Stuff happens like they do in the books. to fully understand you need to read some other books like Silmarillon.
i do like the potter books aswell, as i find it entertaining, but Tolkien is a much better writer imo. harry potter books is written more for children and is very easy to wrap your head around, and is not very complex. but its entertaining nevertheless.
really dont see any ways we can compare Gandalf and Dumbledore as they are two entirely different things.
Yeah, I have to agree with Stian – what’s with people comparing a regular man that’s been magically enhanced with a god-like being such as Gandalf?
That’s like saying, “Who’s better, Superman or Wolverine?”
Well, let’s see… one is an ENHANCED HUMAN with a mild power of regeneration and a mild enhancement of Adamantium coated bones. The other is a SUPER HUMAN ALIEN with seemingly unending power.
When an enhanced human dies, be it from a curse or a long fall or being thrown into the middle of the sun… they are dead. When a super human or demi-god returns from death or from seeming to have died by all counts, that puts them on a different level IMHO.
It’s like when Capcom has Iron Man fight Chun Li. Yeah, it’s funny and fun but it’s not “realistic” if you match up the lore/mythology behind each of their characters.
In my opinion, the “standard humans” like Batman or Dumbledore win out over those with super human powers simply because they are the underdogs. Like whenever Superman brags about his uber power and then Batman, a lowely human with no powers, whips out a small piece of Kryptonite and gives Superman a reality check
That’s my kind of hero – the smart one!
“Who’s better, Superman or Wolverine?”
WOLVERINE ALL THE WAY!!!
but gandalf fought 3 other Maia, the Balrog, Sarumon, and Sauron. which is like a normal human fighitng another normal human. except that everyone except the balrog was almost certainly more powerful than him
Both were great wizards who died while trying to save the world but Dumbledore had set his plans so well, he could stay dead and still win, Gandalf had to go to all the hassle of coming back from the grave. Surely Dumbledore wins for sheer efficiency
Unless we’re talking about film-Dumbledore who died and had to come back as Michael Gambon
I like your last post but not the first.
Before I go any further, Gandalf cannot truly die.
I always had the idea that JRT should have named his books, “The Adventures of Gandalf”…
I’ve read LOTR series 11 times, huge nerd about it too; HP i’ve read all except for the first two about 4 times, and love them both deeply. And although Dumbledore has the advantage that he would be able to use his magic at all times, whereas Gandalf has a limited use of it while on Middle-Earth (for reasons that would take to long to explain), Gandalf has much more knowledge and is able to fight without the help of his magic. Altogether Gandalf is most badass, and wins this duel of wizards.
And then his boat sinks in the middle of the ocean and he dies.
I want to friend that guy now dammit!
DITTO
Belgarath. But then… I doubt anyone will know what I’m talking about.
You, Bombshell, show masterful use of the Will and the Word.
“YOU SHALL NOT PASS….” Nuff said…
Dumbledore took on an army of ZOMBIES, defeated four people at the same time, instrumented his own death, owned the ELDER WAND, and could’ve OWNED the most evil wizard of ALL time at any point in the series, he just thought it unethical to do so in the only ways possible.
Gandalf took on a BALROG, defeated the Ring-wraiths using only water, came back after dieing, owned Foe-hammer (his sword), and could’ve (And did) resist the chance to have unlimited power.
Dumbledore didn’t have to return from the dead to be victorious though
Gandalf.
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Spolier Alert!!! Just thought I’d say it since no one else did.
So, basically, Gandalf is the Chuck Norris of Middle Earth. Right on.
this guy is my hero
I’m sure someone has pointed this out.
Gandalf was being a f*ckin’ show off, as pointed out by a couple of comedy troupes, when he could have flown Frodo in on an eagle and ended the whole mess. Dumbles is humbles.
Judgin by your post, you’ve never read the LOTR books, thus you post is denied.
Judging*, wow that is embarrassing.
TL;DR
So, it is said that Gandalf is a demi-god. This is itself is giving him an unfair advantage. As Dumbledore is a mortal wizard, bestowed with the gifts that every wizard has, though he is quite exceptional at them, he success at ultimately planning the defeat of Voldemort makes him win.
Many of Gandalf’s conquests have been said, but what about Dumbledore’s?
-He defeated Grindlewald, a former friend.
-He successfully located all of the Deathly Hallows, but was able to resist the temptation in the end.
-He saw his sister killed, and lives with the pain of knowing it could have been him that did it.
-He kept living through intense pain because he knew that the power of the Elder Wand must not get to Voldemort and that he still had work to do.
-He had so many loyal followers that would give their lives for him.
-He passed on knowledge to thousands of young wizards.
-And yes, he does have an awesome pet phoenix. Though Fawks is not the coolest thing about him, as it seems some have suggested.
-He welcomed death. Sure, he didn’t die in a huge epic battle, but Snape was so loyal to him, that he killed him.
-The people wanted him as their leader multiple times. He resisted power, he knew his limits. He knew he was not perfect.
-He discovered 12 used of dragon’s blood.
-He helped create the Philosopher’s Stone.
-He has a Chocolate Frog Card.
I felt that the serious lack of pro-Dumbledore coments was saddening.
Okay, so you wanna say Dumbledore wins the Jesus route, with wisdom and humility and “emotional conquests,” whatever the hell that means? It’s too bad he even loses on this front, being matched or exceeded by Gandalf pretty much point for point.
Back to Gandalf’s (far superior) conquests:
-He defeated Saruman, a former friend – TWICE – once freeing King Theodred, and again at Isengaard.
- He successfully located the Ring of Power, but was able to resist the temptation THE WHOLE TIME, NOT ultimately DYING FROM STUPIDLY USING IT INSTEAD!
- He saw HUNDREDS if not THOUSANDS of his friends perish, over millenia. He lives with the burden of knowing that had he acted more quickly, the ENTIRE F*CKING WAR could’ve been averted.
- So Dumbledore lived through “intense pain,” did he? You really think this is a major accomplishment? He cried like a f*cking baby. Try going out in flame without a tear on a f*cking mountain, LIKE A REAL MAN.
- Armies moved and died for Gandalf, too. I guess you think this is a big deal when your “army” is A BUNCH OF LITTLE KIDS, YOU COMMIE CHILD CONSCRIPTIONIST.
- He passed on knowledge to ELVES AND KINGS SINCE THE DAWN OF TIME
- And yes, he does have an awesome pet horse and giant eagle. Though neither is the coolest thing about him, and NO ONE WOULD EVER SUGGEST SOMETHING SO DUMB about such a BADASS.
- Alright, so Dumbledore is fine with dying. He’s an old man, happy with the life he’s lived. Yeah, getting spell-shot in the face BY a friend is SO much better than fighting a grueling battle with HELLSPAWN so your friends can escape and save the world.
- The wizard’s council wanted him as their leader, but he humbly demurred as Gandalf the Grey for THOUSANDS OF YEARS because he doesn’t seek power. That said, when duty called he stepped up like a pro, BECAUSE HE IS ONE.
- He helped destroy the last remaining dragon on earth.
- He wields a fiery ring of power. He DID NOT help create anything which could aid the enemy, because HE’S NOT STUPID, LIKE SOME WIZARDS.
- He blows smoke rings in ANY SHAPE HE DAMN WELL PLEASES. KEEP YOUR F*CKING CHOCOLATE FROGS.
So you see, it’s not that Dumbledore’s not a nice lady and all, it’s just that GANDALF IS SUPERIOR IN EVERY WAY. You should’ve stopped after your first sentence, because it’s entirely true that GANDALF IS IN HIS OWN CLASS, LEAGUES ABOVE DUMBLEDORE. It’s like comparing Tommy from the RugRats to John Wayne. There’s just no contest.
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Seconded
plus, you can’t say it’s unfair that Gandalf is a demi-god, because he is fighting three other demigod’s, the balrog, Sarumon, and Sauron, along with immense armies of orcs, uru-kai, and humans, and all without the former power huge numbers of the elves from the previous Ages. Dumbledore only fights one wizard
Batman won the spoilz of the internet today.
I’m pretty sure that Gandalf wins against dumbledore. Plus dumbledores name sucks – Bomshell has a much more interesting comparison. Belgarath or Gandalf?
Albus Percival Wulfric Brian Dumbledore.
Gandalf.
What did you say about the name again?
Gandalf wins, he beat friggin’ death!
Best Failbook entry I’ve ever read. I laughed out loud in class and was angrily dismissed by my instructor. Gandalf lives like a boss.
You are really dumb, for real.
Okay, really? This is ridiculous. First of all, they can’t honestly be compared by any means. They’re from two different time periods, two different worlds. They are set in two plots that are so obnoxiously different from one another that all of you even attempting to compile a list of why who is better than who just downright deserves to be slapped up-side the head. Not to mention that both book series’ and movies’ are so over-hyped and they’re not even worth this discussion. I’ve read both, and yes, while they’re decent, there are far better.
Get a life guys, and move on to something that actually requires and warrants a logical thought process.
Really? They’re not worth debating, yet you wasted 23 seconds of my life with your pointless drivel, and have the audacity to tell US to get a life?
burn…
Gandalf. After all… those who can, do, those who can’t, teach.
I like Terra. And Vivi. Lulu is okay too.
I don’t understand how everyone failed to notice that he FAILED!!! Gandalf rides the PRINCE of horses. So he FAILS!!
Lord of horses, not prince
Personally, I like dumbledalf.
Both
I’m stuck on Black’s comment. Direct me to this “Dumble”door!
I didn’t know Gandalf sounded so much like John McClaine.
He sounds much more like Magneto, which is really weird…
How does this still get comments?
gandalf doesnt need magic, he`ll beat your ass with hes staff and sword
Toto, I’ve a feeling we’re not in Kansas anymore.
Headmasters and Wizards and Jedi, Oh my!
Gandalf. Dumbledore isn’t real.
Gandalf would win no questions asked! First of all, in the world of Tolkien, Gandalf is actually a Maiar spirit in a human body. Maiar are powerful beings made under Ilu-Vatar and the Valar. Much like that of an Arch Angel or something. He’s like an elf, he’s immortal but can die if inflicted enough bodily harm, but only his physical shell would die! The Maiar (real Gandalf) would live. Not only does that make him a much higher being and a multiple thousand times more experience wizard than Dumbledor, but he knows ten times the arcane techniques that Dumbledor could probably count! I mean come on, he defeated a Balrog in one on one combat and returned from the Abyss! Dumbledor is old and croaky and barely lasted ten minutes in a fight with Voldemort.. Sorry, Gandalf would own him so bad I can’t even word it!!!!
Two words: Chuck Norris
DUmbledore apparate to mount doom with ring! Bang gammmee over! No need for bloody talking to moths to get him off a tower!
And yet that did not save him from a permanent death. Also, if you wish to extend/draw out a word on paper, remember that the ‘e’ in game is silent, what you wrote looks like what a small child would call his grandmother (it reads “gammy)…
Let’s imagine what would really happen if the two met. Gandalf and Dumbledore are both good people that would never hurt other good people – so they wouldn’t fight – ever. It wouldn’t happen. They’d sit around smoking pipe weed and discussing the finer points of magic as friends. Dumbledore would of course freely admit that Gandalf is far more powerful and wiser than him. I mean, Gandalf is a far older immortal demigod after all. So Gandalf would of course acknowledge such a truthful compliment while graciously treating Dumbledore as if he were a peer . They’d be great friends, though Gandalf would certainly be the master while Dumbledore is the student in the relationship. Though they might argue a bit over whether hobbits or teenage boys are sexier. But none of this could happen, because Gandalf is too busy being retired and sippin’ mai tai’s on some elven beach, and Dumbledore is too busy being dead.
That is by far the best answer I have seen on this thread. Especially the last sentence, which made me shoot water out of both nostrils. Thankfully I still have good reflexes, and was able to look away from my laptop, and only got my floor wet.
YOU ARE FORGETTING ONE CRUCIAL FACT: Dumbledore is a MASTER OF DEATH, HE CAN CHOOSE TO DIE IF HE WANTS TO, HE IS LITTERALLY INVICEBLE
First off, you misspelled literally, and invincible. Secondly, Gandalf is a demi-god. Dumbledore is a mortal wizard, who, according to JK Rowling, is DEAD and not coming back. Gandalf died, and was sent back by Illuvatar to complete his task. Once that was done, he went into the West, alive and well. Dumbldedore is no doubt still pushing up daisies.
This would’ve been a whole lot cooler if Blue had spelled “Saruman” right. XP That wasn’t the only mistake, but it was certainly the most prominent to me.
HAHA.. awesome stuff.
check this one out:
http://digestivepyrotechnics.blogspot.com/2011/11/gandalf-vs-dumbledore.html
funny as hell too!
This one is for NON-Dumbledore fans :
http://digestivepyrotechnics.blogspot.com/2012/03/dead-and-back.html
Along the lines of Rudy’s comment.
Dumbledore,because he can use a very light wand died for saving the world
Gandalf, has to use a very heavy staff
If you only compare the plans that each of them came up with to fight the biggest evil in their stories, I think Dumbledore’s is a hell of a lot more intricate and much smarter. I could go on about it in a lot greater detail, but instead, I’ll just say; if he and the eagle were such great buds, why didn’t they just fly to Mordor? I realize they’re just stories and LoTR would SUCK if that happened, but say, in an alternate universe, they were real, Gandalf would have to be pretty dumb to a) not think of it and b) not do it.
Ah, you must have failed to read the books, or missed the part where the eagle makes it clear that it is not Gandalfs riding beast nor his servant and he shouldn’t turn to it in this war.
Basically, the eagles would say “No” to such a ridiculous request.
Besides, the Nazgul would kill them instantly .