im going to have a party on New Years for my web show call!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE SNOWY SHOW all of u are invited To my party for my web show watch it on fail blog,kids bop,and were im broad casting my own home to be invited to my party.It is all happenig on New Years Evev all of u are invited remeber watch it at any of those web sites.At 6:20 on the dot i would of watched it on kids bop im just sayn call me at well ya dot see ya -_-
My guess is that what was intended was, “Put your phone in the microwave (without turning on the microwave), call it, and see if it rings”. (which *may* make sense depending on what wavelengths of radiation the microwave can block) The OP thought it was “Put your phone in the microwave, turn on the microwave, and see if it rings.”
If you need to watch Mythbusters in order to know not to put metal in the microwave, then you’re making Demi here look smart by comparison.
(And btw, it’s not metal per se, but metal objects which contain separate points that can function as arc points as voltage potentials range across the surface of the object. A non-serrated knife will generally not arc, but a fork’s tines definitely will.)
Both cell phones and microwave ovens emit radiation at 2.4ghz. So yea that’s basically right. Your microwave should not allow any radiation at 2.4ghz to be transmitted from the inside to the outside and vice versa. The person didn’t get trolled in real life they were just stupid and didn’t understand.
Except cellphones DON’T emit radiation at 2.4Ghz. Do your research next time. 850, 900, 1800 and 1900Mhz usually, with 2100Mhz as an option on the 5-band ones.
If your phone has bluetooth and/or wifi, and they’re turned on, then it’s transceiving on 2.4Ghz, but you don’t use those to make calls.
However the experiment still has some worth. Radiation shielding is rarely tuned to a single frequency or narrow band (unless it’s e.g. an optical filter), so if it filters out 0.85 ~ 2.1Ghz, it’s *probably* (though not explicitly) doing well at 2.4Ghz, and vice-versa.
There’s a whole load of absolute horse-s**t talked about microwave emissions, their field strength, the effects of such and how to detect them though, so I’d take any statement about it not qualified by two or more years of PhD research at a state-funded university with a bucket of sodium chloride.
Except cellphones DON’T emit radiation at 2.4Ghz. Do your research next time. 850, 900, 1800 and 1900Mhz usually, with 2100Mhz as an option on the 5-band ones.
If your phone has bluetooth and/or wifi, and they’re turned on, then it’s transceiving on 2.4Ghz, but you don’t use those to make calls.
However the experiment still has some worth. Radiation shielding is rarely tuned to a single frequency or narrow band (unless it’s e.g. an optical filter), so if it filters out 0.85 ~ 2.1Ghz, it’s *probably* (though not explicitly) doing well at 2.4Ghz, and vice-versa.
There’s a whole load of absolute horse-puckey talked about microwave emissions, their field strength, the effects of such and how to detect them though, so I’d take any statement about it not qualified by two or more years of PhD research at a state-funded university with a bucket of sodium chloride.
Say that radiation were exercise weights. The rate at which you can repeat the exercise is the frequency. The mass of the weight would, I think, be the amperage. I’m sure it isn’t, but the same concept applies.
Frequency does not inherently imply how powerful the dose is.
It actually makes perfect sense if you think about it, the phone wouldn’t ring if the microwave oven’s shielding kept all radiation from getting in or out; all you have to do is to put the phone in, close the door, and try calling it; BUT WHY THE HECK WOULD YOU TURN THE MICROWAVE ON?!?
Not really, cell phones and microwaves don’t use the same wavelengths. It would be like assuming something is waterproof just because it it holds gravel without any problems
A better test would be to transmit a signal over wifi since 802.11 operates on the same 2.4 GHz band that the microwave operates on. So, open skype and try to skype the phone, then you would know.
I’m a biologist so please correct me if this assumption is wrong, but won’t something that blocks shorter wavelengths (microwaves) block longer wavelengths (cell signals)?
Sorry ignore previous comment. I got things backwards. Am having an itchy day and it’s hard to think straight.
But on second thought, wouldn’t the chamber of a microwave oven block a fairly wide range anyway and not just the exact frequency that the oven operates at?
Yes it is, it is in the microwave range. So does bluetooth, wifi, UHF television (the second dial) if you’re old enough to remember that, and many other uses.
There are a couple of different definitions for “microwaves”, but one commonly used definition has microwaves starting at 1GHz, well within the UHF range (and cell-phone range).
The other commonly used definition of microwaves has microwaves starting at 3GHz, where the SHF range begins. But if you use *that* definition, then a microwave oven doesn’t actually use microwaves at all.
Don’t tell anyone, but microwave ovens actually operate in the UHF range. Maybe they should be called UHF ovens instead?
As in “millimetre waves”, I suppose (1mm wavelength = approx 3Ghz). But does that band extend upwards to 1cm (300Mhz, or somewhere between VHF and UHF), or down to the micrometer range (300Ghz or so)? I would suspect the latter, given the “microwave” label…
All the same, 2.4 isn’t very far from 3.0, and you could make a case for 1.8 (not sure about 0.85 though). They’re all roughly in the same zone.
It is, just not harmful (or as harmful, the jury is out) as you would find in high level radioactive output like an x-ray, the sun, or playing hackeysack with a hunk of uranium.
Technically, any light can be considered radiation.
You know, the first thing I would worry about playing hackey sack with uranium is my foot, which will be broken from playing with such a heavy footbag, not the radiation.
The person who told Demi how to test her microwave for leaks most likely understood the basic science behind the directions.
They never would have said to “turn on the microwave” but omitted the “call your own phone and see if it rings” part of the directions, believing that portion was understood.
Explanation for non scientists: Microwaves are a type of radiation that’s somewhat close to cell phone signals. Microwave ovens are designed to stop the microwaves from getting out (for obvious reasons). So, if you put your phone in the microwave oven and call it and it rings, that means the cell signal is getting through, which means your microwave oven is leaky. And no, you DON’T turn the microwave oven on while doing this.
Don’t feel too bad. Francis Bacon, the guy who invented the scientific method, did an experiment to see if meat would be preserved in snow. Turns out snow can preserve meat, and can also cause fatal pneumonia.
Actually the jury’s still out on whether being cold makes you sick or not. The answer turns out to be “it depends” on a whole bunch of other variables. In Bacon’s case obviously the stars lined up right (or wrong).
I thought that being cold just lowers your defenses and makes it easier for pathogens to attack your body, but that being cold in and of itself doesn’t make you sick.
i’d posit that breathing so much icy-cold, damp air probably did a number on his lungs (and cilia, and…), and left those delicate mucous membranes highly susceptible to infection (that and all the raw meat). they’re not really cut out for such treatment. your caveman instincts tell you to Go The F*** Home And Cower Amongst Blankets rather than pratting about in the snow for a good reason…
I think the idea behind it is that a closed microwave is supposed to form a faraday cage. If your phone can recieve calls while in the closed microwave, then the cage is not complete and RF radiation can escape the oven.
However there’s plenty of other variables that could block cell phone reception, so it’s not too accurate. But at least if it rings, you know you should get it checked out.
Well, to my understanding, a microwave is a Faraday cage (no electricity/radio waves/etc. in or out). If you put your cell phone in there and call it, and it doesn’t ring, you know that no microwaves are escaping and you’re safe. If the call goes through and rings, that’s not a good sign.
Thing is, you don’t turn the microwave on during this process. That should be obvious.
I work in tech support for a wireless carrier, and sometimes we do tell people to put their phone in the microwave for a few minutes, so that it can completely disconnect itself from the network and reacquire a new registration when removed from the microwave. Of course, we actually tell the people, “this is very important: do NOT turn on the microwave!”
Turning it fully off and waiting five minutes before powering back on, sure… maybe even removing the battery, if it’s not some overly poncy smartphone that doesn’t let you do that.
And a regular oven, if it’s all-metal inside at least, should do a similar job – and be far less risky even if they turn it on! Or just wrapping it in tinfoil!
bulls**t, I just tried it and it doesn’t work. My phone rang while the microwave was on, and it didn’t explode. I had it in there for 5 minutes just to test it out.
i think insteade of putting ur phone in the microwave and turning it on, u take a phone, put in microwave, call the phone, if it rings, ur microwave leaks radiation, cuz if the cell phone waves got in, radiation can come out.
I’ve had my cell signal get fuzzy when I was standing in front of an operating microwave. (Our TV also emitted noise.) I guess that’s one way to see if your microwave is emitting radiation.
One more vote for the “put it in the microwave” =/= “microwave it” camp… Though, let’s count this as a blessing. Anyone that stupid shouldn’t be allowed a phone anyway (or a microwave – with any luck, the resulting lightning storm burnt it out as well)
nb4 the heck.
Some people should be banned from technology.
Why was that a reply to that post? I do not know.
YOU should be banned from technology!
Technology should be banned from you!
In soviet russia…. I ‘unno
Technology ban you!
Actually, that one kinda makes sense in the original context of Russian Reversals.
you need to the heck.
All our technology belong to the heck
In Mother Russia heck belongs to our technology!
another everest..hmm..
In Soviet Russia, Everest climb YOU!
all your base are belongs to us.
You ban the mods (?)
nb4 needs to the heck.
That’s so raven..
I accidentally nb4. The whole nb4!
Well it doesn’t leak radiation NOW.
No, but it leaked all over the house when she opened the microwave door!
This makes me sad….
im going to have a party on New Years for my web show call!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE SNOWY SHOW all of u are invited To my party for my web show watch it on fail blog,kids bop,and were im broad casting my own home to be invited to my party.It is all happenig on New Years Evev all of u are invited remeber watch it at any of those web sites.At 6:20 on the dot i would of watched it on kids bop im just sayn call me at well ya dot see ya -_-
im in dud
Now all RSVP.
I know… That poor person. Why wouldnt she get away from the microwave.. that thing was pumping out radiation…
The poor microwave -_-
I’m sorry, she was a mistake.
At least you can admit it. For that, I forgive you. Now, about that lottery win I’m waiting for…
buy a ticket. idiot.
f*ck u for causing all those deaths claimed by natural and man-made disasters and violent, wrongful beings
rectify it. NOW!
if you are stupid enough to be the f**ktard girl who put her phone in the microwave- you shouldnt rectify retard.
The real test here was if they were stupid enough to try it. Guess who failed the test!
You, trying to be funny ?
Not trying to be funny. Just not sure how someone could be that dumb.
You must be new to failbook then.
HAHA!^
My guess is that what was intended was, “Put your phone in the microwave (without turning on the microwave), call it, and see if it rings”. (which *may* make sense depending on what wavelengths of radiation the microwave can block) The OP thought it was “Put your phone in the microwave, turn on the microwave, and see if it rings.”
I think the simpler explanation is that she was trolled irl.
^^ This
Who the hell puts metal in the microwave and turns it on? Does no one watch mythbusters anymore?
(Caution: language warning in some episodes)
http://www.youtube.com/show/isitagoodideatomicrowavethis?pl=ACDE8FE520C48559&ob=showob_0
If you need to watch Mythbusters in order to know not to put metal in the microwave, then you’re making Demi here look smart by comparison.
(And btw, it’s not metal per se, but metal objects which contain separate points that can function as arc points as voltage potentials range across the surface of the object. A non-serrated knife will generally not arc, but a fork’s tines definitely will.)
Both cell phones and microwave ovens emit radiation at 2.4ghz. So yea that’s basically right. Your microwave should not allow any radiation at 2.4ghz to be transmitted from the inside to the outside and vice versa. The person didn’t get trolled in real life they were just stupid and didn’t understand.
Except cellphones DON’T emit radiation at 2.4Ghz. Do your research next time. 850, 900, 1800 and 1900Mhz usually, with 2100Mhz as an option on the 5-band ones.
If your phone has bluetooth and/or wifi, and they’re turned on, then it’s transceiving on 2.4Ghz, but you don’t use those to make calls.
However the experiment still has some worth. Radiation shielding is rarely tuned to a single frequency or narrow band (unless it’s e.g. an optical filter), so if it filters out 0.85 ~ 2.1Ghz, it’s *probably* (though not explicitly) doing well at 2.4Ghz, and vice-versa.
There’s a whole load of absolute horse-s**t talked about microwave emissions, their field strength, the effects of such and how to detect them though, so I’d take any statement about it not qualified by two or more years of PhD research at a state-funded university with a bucket of sodium chloride.
Except cellphones DON’T emit radiation at 2.4Ghz. Do your research next time. 850, 900, 1800 and 1900Mhz usually, with 2100Mhz as an option on the 5-band ones.
If your phone has bluetooth and/or wifi, and they’re turned on, then it’s transceiving on 2.4Ghz, but you don’t use those to make calls.
However the experiment still has some worth. Radiation shielding is rarely tuned to a single frequency or narrow band (unless it’s e.g. an optical filter), so if it filters out 0.85 ~ 2.1Ghz, it’s *probably* (though not explicitly) doing well at 2.4Ghz, and vice-versa.
There’s a whole load of absolute horse-puckey talked about microwave emissions, their field strength, the effects of such and how to detect them though, so I’d take any statement about it not qualified by two or more years of PhD research at a state-funded university with a bucket of sodium chloride.
If cell phones and microwaves emitted the same ammount of radiation, you’d be cooking your freaking head each time you called someone.
Say that radiation were exercise weights. The rate at which you can repeat the exercise is the frequency. The mass of the weight would, I think, be the amperage. I’m sure it isn’t, but the same concept applies.
Frequency does not inherently imply how powerful the dose is.
mx+b=fail
win
That goes to the book of 101 blonde jokes
Hopefully they don’t try that with their cat
I don’t think they’re concerned about their cat leaking radiation.
Cats don’t leak radiation. I tried this experiment with my old cat & soon had to get a new one.
But did it ring?
But will it blend?
Is it cool if I masturbate?
Photos or it didn’t happen
*yawns*
can you say homo?
LOL
I need closure so did it ring or not?
You must try it yourself to see
I don’t own a microwave.
I own a horse.
Disconnect.
I own a shoe.
i own a turtle
I like turtles.
i like to f_ck turtles
I own a Thermos.
i own a slave.
I own you.
I own a slapchop.
I own a C-C-C-COMBOBREAKER!
I don’t
Can I use yours?
Sure.
My C-C-C-COMBOBREAKER won’t mind.
This person knows better than to look in the dictionary for the word “gullible,” because they know it’s not there.
YES IT IS YOUR SO STUPIT. OMG.
you should just to the heck, man.
I agree with Combinator, you should just to the heck, man.
It actually makes perfect sense if you think about it, the phone wouldn’t ring if the microwave oven’s shielding kept all radiation from getting in or out; all you have to do is to put the phone in, close the door, and try calling it; BUT WHY THE HECK WOULD YOU TURN THE MICROWAVE ON?!?
JEEZUZ ROLLERBLADING CHRIST!
Nice, are we the only two people on here who understand this? This is sadening…
yeah, i get it too…. though it seems others do not.
It does make perfect sense for testing the microwave for leaks.
Not really, cell phones and microwaves don’t use the same wavelengths. It would be like assuming something is waterproof just because it it holds gravel without any problems
A better test would be to transmit a signal over wifi since 802.11 operates on the same 2.4 GHz band that the microwave operates on. So, open skype and try to skype the phone, then you would know.
This is a perfectly valid comment.
Not really. Verizon’s version of the Droid Skype app no longer lets you use wifi.
;_;
I’m a biologist so please correct me if this assumption is wrong, but won’t something that blocks shorter wavelengths (microwaves) block longer wavelengths (cell signals)?
Sorry ignore previous comment. I got things backwards. Am having an itchy day and it’s hard to think straight.
But on second thought, wouldn’t the chamber of a microwave oven block a fairly wide range anyway and not just the exact frequency that the oven operates at?
Care to share more about your itchy day? Itchy where?
Also, most cell signals are in the range 800MHz -> 1.9GHz, so the analogy is more like assuming something is waterproof because it holds cooking oil.
Well yeah, but that makes for a rather bad analogy and isn’t nearly as easy to visualize! Point’s still valid, dammit! ;p
But… a phone signal isn’t radiation.
Yes, it is.
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=electromagnetic+radiation
Ah, yes it is. I just isn’t microwave radiation. Light is radiation, it is just in the visible spectrum. A phone signal is in the radio spectrum.
Yes it is, it is in the microwave range. So does bluetooth, wifi, UHF television (the second dial) if you’re old enough to remember that, and many other uses.
UHF isn’t considered microwave, it’s considered, uh, Ultra High Frequency.
Bluetooth, WiFi, and most of the currently used cell phone frequencies are, however.
There are a couple of different definitions for “microwaves”, but one commonly used definition has microwaves starting at 1GHz, well within the UHF range (and cell-phone range).
The other commonly used definition of microwaves has microwaves starting at 3GHz, where the SHF range begins. But if you use *that* definition, then a microwave oven doesn’t actually use microwaves at all.
Don’t tell anyone, but microwave ovens actually operate in the UHF range. Maybe they should be called UHF ovens instead?
As in “millimetre waves”, I suppose (1mm wavelength = approx 3Ghz). But does that band extend upwards to 1cm (300Mhz, or somewhere between VHF and UHF), or down to the micrometer range (300Ghz or so)? I would suspect the latter, given the “microwave” label…
All the same, 2.4 isn’t very far from 3.0, and you could make a case for 1.8 (not sure about 0.85 though). They’re all roughly in the same zone.
It is, just not harmful (or as harmful, the jury is out) as you would find in high level radioactive output like an x-ray, the sun, or playing hackeysack with a hunk of uranium.
Technically, any light can be considered radiation.
You know, the first thing I would worry about playing hackey sack with uranium is my foot, which will be broken from playing with such a heavy footbag, not the radiation.
I don’t think the teller said something about turning the microwave on.
I believe that was implied when they said their phone blew up.
The person who told Demi how to test her microwave for leaks most likely understood the basic science behind the directions.
They never would have said to “turn on the microwave” but omitted the “call your own phone and see if it rings” part of the directions, believing that portion was understood.
Massive fail. Palm to forehead.
Volunteers needed for a scientific study: Investigating whether or not people can distinguish between scientific studies and kidney harvesting scams.
That’s from xkcd, yo.
Which is boss, because that comic applies to real life way too often.
OMFG… O.o this is all I have to say to this.
i was going to microwave my phone, but then i had to the heck
“if i doesn’t ring” hihihihihi
Oh wow, a typo!
Heres’ anohter one.
Thenk yoo.
… Because common sense never told you it’s a bad idea to microwave a phone.
Ahem cough [troll] cough
Dude, you just need to… oh… s**t.
The heck has appeared!
I’m not a troll, it saddens me greatly that you would assume such a thing. D:
im so freaking confused… so what would happen if i put my phone in the microwave and called it without turning the microwave on?
and why would you put a phone in the microwave and turn it on anyway?
They get better reception if you leave them in the micro for about 30 seconds…makes the sound nice and crisp.
Explanation for non scientists: Microwaves are a type of radiation that’s somewhat close to cell phone signals. Microwave ovens are designed to stop the microwaves from getting out (for obvious reasons). So, if you put your phone in the microwave oven and call it and it rings, that means the cell signal is getting through, which means your microwave oven is leaky. And no, you DON’T turn the microwave oven on while doing this.
Some people should be slapped…
…to death…
…with a cell phone…
…and a microwave!
Cool story, bro.
another way to destroy phone through science. she used radiation used from microwaves, i use gravity, a back pants pocket, and the need to pee.
shouldn’t have bought an iphone then.
doesn’t sound very scientific, mind.
I WANT to believe that this is real. So i will.
So…it didn’t ring? The phone was fine then?
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA. HAHa ha. haha. holy cow. that dude is an idiot. wow. epic. lol.
is it a good idea to microwave this?
Let’s find out! Here, at the Jory Caron Laboratory 2.6, safety is one of our many concerns.
Cause nobody…. likes roasted nuts.
Somebody seriously misunderstood some advice like the following:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/How_do_you_check_for_a_radiation_leak_in_a_microwave
Don’t feel too bad. Francis Bacon, the guy who invented the scientific method, did an experiment to see if meat would be preserved in snow. Turns out snow can preserve meat, and can also cause fatal pneumonia.
Actually the jury’s still out on whether being cold makes you sick or not. The answer turns out to be “it depends” on a whole bunch of other variables. In Bacon’s case obviously the stars lined up right (or wrong).
I thought that being cold just lowers your defenses and makes it easier for pathogens to attack your body, but that being cold in and of itself doesn’t make you sick.
i’d posit that breathing so much icy-cold, damp air probably did a number on his lungs (and cilia, and…), and left those delicate mucous membranes highly susceptible to infection (that and all the raw meat). they’re not really cut out for such treatment. your caveman instincts tell you to Go The F*** Home And Cower Amongst Blankets rather than pratting about in the snow for a good reason…
My mobile rings when I put it in the microwave – and call it from a landline.
I think the idea behind it is that a closed microwave is supposed to form a faraday cage. If your phone can recieve calls while in the closed microwave, then the cage is not complete and RF radiation can escape the oven.
However there’s plenty of other variables that could block cell phone reception, so it’s not too accurate. But at least if it rings, you know you should get it checked out.
In Soviet Russia the heck needs to you.
EPIC WIN for those no longer living under the threat of having to speak with Demi.
Well, to my understanding, a microwave is a Faraday cage (no electricity/radio waves/etc. in or out). If you put your cell phone in there and call it, and it doesn’t ring, you know that no microwaves are escaping and you’re safe. If the call goes through and rings, that’s not a good sign.
Thing is, you don’t turn the microwave on during this process. That should be obvious.
I work in tech support for a wireless carrier, and sometimes we do tell people to put their phone in the microwave for a few minutes, so that it can completely disconnect itself from the network and reacquire a new registration when removed from the microwave. Of course, we actually tell the people, “this is very important: do NOT turn on the microwave!”
Really? Never heard that one before.
Turning it fully off and waiting five minutes before powering back on, sure… maybe even removing the battery, if it’s not some overly poncy smartphone that doesn’t let you do that.
And a regular oven, if it’s all-metal inside at least, should do a similar job – and be far less risky even if they turn it on! Or just wrapping it in tinfoil!
bulls**t, I just tried it and it doesn’t work. My phone rang while the microwave was on, and it didn’t explode. I had it in there for 5 minutes just to test it out.
I call BS
Wow… and people wonder why I have no faith in humanity.
And I finally know now why cellphone manuals have a warning in them that says “do not place in microwave.”
why the hell are there so many comments?! this is a humor website ,NOT A SCIENCE SITE!
Science is pretty funny. http://xkcd.com/54/
I test hamsters this way.
i think insteade of putting ur phone in the microwave and turning it on, u take a phone, put in microwave, call the phone, if it rings, ur microwave leaks radiation, cuz if the cell phone waves got in, radiation can come out.
Damn, Darwin, you were THIS close to claiming another victim!
I’ve had my cell signal get fuzzy when I was standing in front of an operating microwave. (Our TV also emitted noise.) I guess that’s one way to see if your microwave is emitting radiation.
One more vote for the “put it in the microwave” =/= “microwave it” camp… Though, let’s count this as a blessing. Anyone that stupid shouldn’t be allowed a phone anyway (or a microwave – with any luck, the resulting lightning storm burnt it out as well)
(aaaaaaaaaand, as no-one else seems to have said it yet)
BUT WHO WAS PHONE?
looks like you shouldn’t get your phone from Doc Brown, then. Mr. Fusion doesn’t like microwaves.