Agreed. I was on the mom’s side up until she posed the question about why kids became so entitled. it’s because you’ve given them everything they’ve wanted their whole life and catered to their every whim. here’s a tip, don’t spoil your child and wonder at how they got so spoiled.
Heck! I’m a PART of the ‘new’ generation and I agree about the selfishness. When/if I get kids, they make their own money. Except school and growing up costs, I say no to ‘hey dad, can i have some money for… (whatever reason)’
It works best to give your kids an allowance. There’s no “can I have money for…” because they have this certain amount of money they get periodically, which they can spend or save as they see fit (within the bounds of the law and safety). Then the answer is pretty much always “no,” because they have their own money to work with.
If you wait until they can start earning money (most have to be at least 8 to even get paid for things like dog-walking or yard work from neighbors; in some neighborhoods, you’re just not going to find anything until you’re at least a teenager), they’ve already missed out on a couple years of learning how to save and defer gratification.
I never really got much of an allowance at all, if ever. If I wanted something, I had to help out extra around the house to get paid to have money, unless it was a really special occasion. I know full well how to save money to get things, and the fact that I can’t always get what I want when I want it–and sometimes that I’ll have to start saving months in advance if I want something more expensive. I’ve known that for quite a few years.
The problem comes because kids today are spoiled. So anybody who isn’t spoiled feels like they’re being left out. That’s what I see happening around here, anyway.
No allowance. No “can I haves”….My brother and I mowed lawns, collected bottles (back in the days of returnables) and salvaged scrap metals. When we got older we started our own small cattle herds (granted, our grandparents let us run them with theirs) and farming operations and in our free time we worked for neighboring farmers.
In a nutshell; We worked.
My son is 8 years old and doesn’t get an allowance because he’s made and saved several thousand dollars in just the last 2 years breeding earthworms and selling worms for bait as well as worm castings and compost for gardeners. You can start a business long before you can work for someone else.
Kids don’t NEED an allowance to learn how to save money and defer gratification. They need motivation to learn how to earn their own money and make it work for them. The mistake these parents have made is giving their teenager everything and then expecting him to be grateful.
I had this thing called Tac Ticks… it was like a chores and habits booklet.. and every day l would mark off when l had done the usual habits like brushing teeth and going to bed early, and then their would be extras, like cleaning my room, setting the table, drying the dishes… for every tick l had with a task completed, l got 20cents (10p).. and at the end of the week, l got my money.
It was a very effective way to get me into good habits and understand the value of working for money, rather than an allowance, which at the end of the day – is still being handed out for free.
I actually really like this idea. I might just steal it.
I mean, I know the idea of money for the extras, but the booklet is also another form of responsibility. If you lose it or stop keeping records… well, it really would teach you responsibility.
It does work great — right up to the time lazy-ass parents (and those are the ones handing over everything rather than putting in the time and effort to enforce boundaries) quit doing their half of the chart. Which I’ve seen happen twice — great start, kid is motivated, and then, “Yeah, honey, I’ll look at the chart later. I don’t have any cash on me, so… ask later.” If the parents drop the ball–
I’m only 24, and back in my day, you had to buy your own car, pay for your own gas, and insurance or you didn’t drive. How else do you learn that Mommy and Daddy won’t coddle your soft, spoiled little ass forever?
I’m 29, my parents gave me all of those things, but they used GOOD PARENTING to teach me the value of hard work. They taught me that they used their hard work and education to give me those things then so I should work hard to better myself so I could provide for myself later. All of my wages went into high yield CDs and a Roth IRA to take advantage of compound interest.
Why everyone here thinks that the only way to prevent a spoiled kid to deny him or her everything is beyond me.
“I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on the frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words. When I was a boy, we were taught to be discrete and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise and impatient of restraint.”
Hesiod 700 B.C.
It’s not new to complain about youth. Someone complained about her generation too. Civilization keeps on truckin.
Conclusion jump fail; Shipoopi is not saying we should stop trying to improve the next generation, he’s saying it would be nice if the previous generation would stop lying.
The “Back in my day” argument is complete and utter crap. Every generation uses it to complain about the kids in the generations that come after them because they forget that they weren’t the perfect angels that they claim to have been. This is proven by the fact that someone from 700 BC made the same complaints, and I mean EXACT same complaints, about the generations after them, that the previous generation made about mine, and that my generation is currently making about the next.
In other words, because the “Back in my day” argument is complete bullsh*t, it’s not going to improve anything about the next generation. It’ll only continue the same pattern it’s had since the beginning of society.
And now for a reminder: Mapcinq and Shipoopi were stating that Mom’s argument was completely justified until the “Back in my day” statement, for reasons you should already have figured out if you read the rest of my post.
parents that spoil their kids with cars, gas, insurance, etc are horrible parents. make your kids learn to work for their privileges. all that stuff is expensive and kids don’t work hard enough for it.
Just because the “Back in my day” argument has been made for generations does not make it false.
But I agree, civilisation keeps on trucking. Kids eventually learn responsibility, or they become the lesser-paid employees of those who have, if they haven’t somehow Darwinized themselves.
actually it does, if i say that kids were respectful back in my day, but the previous generation said it, that makes my back in my day argument false, because only the first generation to not have that said about them would be respectful
I herd u liked logical fallacies, so I made an argument that uses a fallacy to point out the fallacy in your argument about a fallacy so u can argue about a fallacy in an argument about fallacies while u point out a fallacy in an argument about a fallacy in an argument about fallacies.
“Back in my day” is not a fallacy. You really should look up the word before you use it.
It is one comparing a current condition to a previous condition and finding the current condition wanting in some way.
There is nothing fallacious about stating “In the past, things were like ‘X’ and currently they are ‘Y’” which is exactly what the person above is doing.
fallacy- In logic and rhetoric, a fallacy is incorrect reasoning in argumentation resulting in a misconception.
if i say this generation will be the end of civilization, but the previous said it about mine, the previous about theirs, so on and so forth it becomes a fallacy
how can you not understand that if every generation has said that the generation after it was the one that ruined everything, then that statement is a fallacy
“There is nothing fallacious about stating “In the past, things were like ‘X’ and currently they are ‘Y’” which is exactly what the person above is doing.”
this is true, except for the fact that with the “back in my day” argument, they are not reporting things as they were, they are reporting a nostalgia tinted version of things, making it a misrepresentation of the facts making it a…you guessed it! fallacy!
Nor is it exactly what they’re doing. There’s an implied syllogism with a minor premise that may or may not be true. It USUALLY isn’t — but there’s nothing to rule out that it MIGHT be in a given situation.
Maybe the kid’s selfish — but the parents are to blame for ENABLING it. The kid didn’t want the first car they *gave* him? The answer should’ve been “tough. You want another one, go work for it” not “ok, let’s sell it, we’ll buy you another one”. If Mommy & Daddy pamper the kid, they hardly have the right to then turn around and whine at the kid for being spoiled. It’s a two-way street; the Mom is much more the FAIL here than the kid. The kid’s been raised that way; the parents did the raising.
true, the kid is a turd, but maybe if he had to pay for his own schooling and car and insurance and food and housing like me and so many of my friends he’d be a lot more appreciative.
I still say he needs a good kick in the rear though. My mum would have my head if I pulled garbage like that.
Hate to say this, but QUITE a few European kids are growing up just as fat, stupid, lazy, and rude as their American counterparts. Get your head out of your bum and check out the generations instead of generalizing based upon junk you read online or watch on tv.
The only thing the mom is guilty of is spoiling the idiot kid. The kid is the true idiot for posting that nonsense on facebook and not keeping the Accord.
Agreed. I’m 19 and when I got my car (a surprise, I had no idea we were even getting a car, much less for me) I was incredibly grateful. Before this I never complained about not having a vehicle to go places, when needed I’d just drive my dads.
Point is, the person who posted this needs to work his ass off to see what money is worth. That mother is awesome for pwning her son in public where all of his friends can see what a selfish jackass he is.
The mother might be awesome, but I can’t shake the feeling that this is coming fully out of left field for the kid. This may be the very first dose of truth the kid’s ever received.
“Surprise! You’re not a special little snowflake. Life is an uphill deathmarch. Have fun.”
I’m really curious about what this guy was learning when he was four years old or so. Or ten, or twelve.
Am I the only one that sees the true problem here? Kid had a HONDA ACCORD (the nicest car Honda currently makes, having phased out the S2000). Granted it’s not exactly a Ferrari, but I’d take an Accord over an Explorer ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
Need I be the only one to say this…apples don’t fall far from their trees. The mom is as big a whiner as her kid. If my kid pulls that crap on me, I’d simply tell him to get a job and pay me rent for living in my house, not go into a huge blowout on Facebook over it.
It’s called face-to-face communication, folks!! Let’s be big boys and girls and try it out sometime!! Takes more balls to say it to my face than to spew it on the internet.
She probably said that on the internet, because he was complaining to all of his friends over facebook about it. I think she has a right as his parent to defend herself and publicly humiliate him.
YOU need to get off that cloud of “im so high and mighty that everyone needs to look at me while we argue.”
who do you think you are? for those of us that are ACTUALLY respectful to our parents….its kind of hard to take our problems to them in the first place cuz society has grown to be this one place where kids that respect their parents are always….afraid to say anything because of fear they wont like it.
its not easy to go up to someone’s face and just start telling what you feel.
parents always react with this damn attitude that JUST because they are parents and they had their fun to make you and because they carried you in their belly for 9 months, they act like they have the right to verbally supress and abuse.
i give THANKS that i love my parents. i love them and repect them above anyone else. i feel sad that my friends or other people i know arent as blessed.
“get a jon and pay me rent?” i dont think your kid asked to be born YOUR kid. be nice and take THAT into fu**ing consideration.
“parents always react with this damn attitude that JUST because they are parents and they had their fun to make you and because they carried you in their belly for 9 months, they act like they have the right to verbally supress and abuse. ”
LOL it totally does give them the right, sorry. SUCKS TO BE YOU! Don’t worry, I’m sure you’ll be 18 soon enough and then you can figure out how much it sucks to take care of yourself.
If you’re already out in the real world taking care of yourself (which I doubt), then let go of your mommy/daddy issues, damn.
Also you must be a boy, and probably a virgin, with your little “fun to make you” comment. Being pregnant and going through childbirth SUCKS, it’s not fun, and if I were your parent I would say the “fun” in “making you” (are you talking about sex? scary word to you?) was totally not worth it.
hate to break it to you, but the mother was in no way verbally abusing her child. she was setting his selfish ass straight. she and his father were nice enough to pay for his school, his car, his insurance, his gas, etc. i think that gives them EVERY right to chew him out for acting in that manner. i had to buy my first car on my own, and most of my school payments have been from loans. yes, i am on my parents’ insurance, but i also help around the house, go to school, take care of the animals, and so forth. no one chooses their parents. but their house, their money, their rules. if you dont’ like it, then you probably SHOULD go get a job and pay rent somewhere else.
and for the record, it didn’t seem like the kid had a problem with going to his parents. he was just being picky as hell and complaining that his parents didn’t want to get him the car he wanted. there’s two possibilities here from the permit comment: he’s a teenager in a private school, or he’s a college student who waited until now to get his permit. either way, someone needs a huge lesson in responsibility
Maybe they don’t have the “right” to “suppress/abuse.” But they sure as heck have a right to defend themselves when their brats are bashing them on Facebook for not wanting to spend thousands of dollars of their hard-earned money on a car for an ungrateful kid who is ABOUT to get his PERMIT. This isn’t suppression. This is “You wanna air our dirty laundry in public? Fine, then I’ll throw yours at people.”
They’re your parents. You didn’t “ask” to be born their kid, but you BETTER BE FREAKING GRATEFUL they didn’t give you away. You BETTER straighten up and thank them for loving you and keeping you because with how society is today, and with what I’ve seen some parents do, especially when their kids are coming of age, you could be ROTTING in a gutter somewhere and they wouldn’t give a rip.
There comes a time when a kid has to grow up. It’s a time when the kids start learning to take care of themselves and quit depending on their parents’ money for the things they “want.” Shortly after, especially when they start getting into college, it’s time for them to be pushed out of the nest. If they want to come back, fine, but they’ll be paying for it just like in the real world. It’s tough love. They need to learn how to fend for themselves and support themselves, because if they don’t, life will hit them hard.
If I spent 16 years pouring my love, my heart, my soul, my money, my world into a kid, buy him a car, and then he turns around and says “I don’t like this one,” well, hey. He’s my son, and I understand the desire to drive something you like and be proud of what you own. He’ll be more likely to take care of it that way anyway. I’d try to get him something he prefers, but if he turns around and publicly tells his friends “My dad keeps screwing me over with this car thing! I found a Mazda I like and it was only 2,000 dollars and he won’t get it for me, and I spent 8,000 dollars of his money on school so he should get me something nice that I like and he won’t!” Then I will sell the car and the money I spent on the first car will go to a bus pass, a bicycle, and his college fund, and that will be the end of it. I wouldn’t mind helping him out, but I sure as heck wouldn’t take the ungrateful attitude, because I didn’t have to spend 8,000 bucks on his college, and I didn’t have to spend more thousands on a car for him, just to turn around and take that crap from him. If he’s going to be so ungrateful, he can take the bus until he can buy his own car.
I’m 20 years old. Pretty much still a kid myself. You need to figure something out, “felix alexander.” If you respect your parents as much as you say, then why are you so content to mooch off them and not support yourself? Why would you turn around and tell them “I didn’t ask to be born YOUR kid, so take that into f-ing consideration?” What the heck kind of respect is that? Let me turn this around and spell this out for you.
Maybe you didn’t ask to be born their kid, but JUST because they’re your parents, and they love you, and they raised you, doesn’t mean you get to keep taking and taking from them. It doesn’t mean you get free income from them whenever you want it. It doesn’t mean they have to pay for whatever the heck takes your fancy. It doesn’t mean you get to continue to suck their resources down when you’re of age and able to earn your own resources. If they let you, it’s out of the goodness of their hearts, because they love you, or maybe because they’re a little soft for you and love you too much.
If my kid ever tells me “I didn’t ask to be born YOUR kid, so take that into consideration,” if he’s of age, it’d probably break my heart, but I will promptly pack his bags and let him go find whoever it is whose kid he WANTS to be. Felix Alexander, it’s time for you to grow up.
Okay, you clearly don’t understand what a respectful relationship is with a parent. Being too afraid to talk to them is not respecting, it’s fear. Respecting a parent means mutual respect; you can’t have respect without giving it in return, otherwise it is just fear.
This is not verbal abuse at all, this is a mother seeing her brat of a son publicly lying about her to his friends, so she retaliates. I agree that it is likely her fault he is so spoiled, but goddamn, he has no right to be acting like this at all. If you’re old enough to drive, you should be damn well old enough to start taking responsibility for your actions.
I found it quite reasonable when my parents asked me to pay rent. They’re quite well off already and have paid for a lot of things I’ve done, but they have always explained why they take the actions that they do. If I ever have kids I’ll maintain that open honesty, because I have turned out pretty well thanks to my mother and father’s awesome parenting.
Ah if only ending a stupid comment with God Bless were a way to validate it.
Sadly it is not. Perhaps the biological act of creating a child does not entitle me to make the rules for it. What DOES entitle me to make the rules for my children is that:
a) My age and experience gives me a knowledge and wisdom that they lack. A lot of my rules are because they don’t know enough on their own to realize that I’m enforcing behavior they should accept as second nature anyway.
b) I, currently, pay for all their expenses. As such they are bound by the rules of the household they live in. When they move out and have their own house, they are entitled make their own rules and expect me to abide by them when I visit or if I find myself living there.
c) A child that acts with respect deserves respect in turn, and deserves to have themselves heard if they have a grievance. By the same token, a child that acts disrespectfully will get disrespect; and if they can’t be respectful, then I don’t need to hear them out.
My reaction to being publicly slandered by my child would be to embarass them in front of their friends much as the mother did. I would follow this up with taking back the car I had so generously provided and instead give them a bus pass for all their transportation needs. I would expect to be paid for the bus pass, as well.
I want to start out with saying that I agree with you.
HOWEVER.
The venom and spite you use in the previous paragraphs and the vicious tearing down renders that last line almost sarcastic, potentially (definitely in this case) offending certain religious people.
If you wish to represent His side without offending others in His flock, please be more constructively critical rather than spiteful.
No matter who the target, or how wronged you may feel.
felix – Maybe when you become an adult you’ll understand that having children pretty much gives you the right to set rules and institute measures to teach your child responsibility. Being a parent means teaching your children how the world works before they step out into it. If I charge my 19-year old rent because he doesn’t understand that a free car (and insurance and college education) is a gift, and you believe that is “verbally supressing and abusing” them, then you live in some sort of naive fairyland.
Strangley enough, my kids are not scared to look me in the eye and tell me they are disappointed with something. If the punk in the post above was my child, he would have the balls to tell me to my face before going online like a coward. I am not raising my kids to be cowards, hence my critism of the mom in this post. If my kids can’t confront me, how in the hell are they going to confront the world?
I willingly paid rent the last year and a half of living with my parents, once I found a mediocre part-time job (and later a better full-time one, which eventually got me out of there) while rents were sky-high. It was still much cheaper and not very inconvenient, plus it helped my mom out in a tight time. I don’t see what your huge aversion to asking someone to help pay their way once they start bringing in money is.
Agreed. Just because he behaves selfishly does not mean that his entire generation does and just because she (by her own account) wasn’t selfish does not mean that her entire generation wasn’t.
She lost me at the “back in my day” b.s. because SHE’S the parent and she has the control of the situation. Like how you were raised “back in the day”? Then raise your children the same way.
The solution is not that difficult.
I’m 24, purchased my own first vehicle, paid for my college education (and am still paying for it) and never even thought of asking my parents for help. The fed and clothed me for 18 years. The extras I wanted were my responsibility.
I feel no pity for any of the yahoos in this “fail”.
Agreed. And they are yahoos. I was given $10 a week, and I had to buy my own shampoo, toothpaste, etc. with it. Obviously, I didn’t have a lot of spending money. It was a good lesson, though. Once I had a job, I had to buy my own car. My parents weren’t even middle-class, though, so you know…
Sometimes I think growing up poor is a good thing. It makes you grateful when you do have the things you want. I don’t think this is a problem of a generation, but a problem of class. A lot of rich kids I went to school with got cars as gifts. If you have everything handed to you, of course you’re going to be ungrateful.
I agree with this too, you learn to appreciate more when it’s a result of your own sweat and hard work. You come to expect it when you start to get spoiled. Anything worthwhile in life isn’t the easiest to get
I totally agree. I was the oldest of 6 kids, with a mom who made $8 an hour and a dad that took off when I was 13. I started working at 15, and if I wasn’t working I was taking care of my siblings while my mom worked. I bought my own clothes, razors, etc, and I paid some of our bills. When we lost our house I got an apartment and took in my youngest siblings (my mom moved in to her boyfriend/husband’s apartment) until my mom could get a house.
I’ve worked my butt off to get where I am, working full time and going to school at night. Believe me, I’m 100 times better off than the friends I have that have been handed everything, or my younger siblings who treat my mom like an ATM now that she’s in a slightly better place. And I’m certainly a heck of a lot more respectful to my mom, because I remember what it was like to struggle for everything.
What’s wrong with the back in my day? The new generations values change over time, some for good, and some for worse, and I see no reason why wanting someone to have a good quality from the previous generation is B.S.
Because the person wanting it is supposed to be the one providing it. If they refuse to then it’s their own responsibility that it doesn’t come about. The mother could have raised the child to be appreciative, or she could have bought him a car and then sold it to by another when he didn’t like it. She’s in no position to complain about kids of today when the kid is her own.
You can’t entirely blame the mother for how spoiled the kid is. Sure, there is a ton of blame coming from her, but the kid still makes his own decisions in life. He talked about paying for school so I thought he was a college student at first but then his mom said something about getting a permit so maybe it’s just a private high school. Or maybe he’s totally spoiled and never bothered to get a permit.
Anyways, I kinda got off on a tangent there. Regardless of who is to blame, there is nothing wrong with wanting you’re children to be better in areas where you’ve failed as a parent. It seems like kids today go around blaming their parents for everything and then complain about it once their parents actually try to be a good parent. It’s a total self serving bias.
This has to be the largest number of replies in the history of the Cheezburger Network, and I decided I want to be the last to post in it. So… here’s another completely pointless post =D.
When was it that kids got so entitled? Well, I would guess the second that you bought them a Honda Accord and then agreed to sell it and get another one because it wasn’t “good enough”. If you let your kids get away with that crap then it is noones fault but yours if they are a bit “entitled”.
oh yes. yes yes yes. Books will be written about the psychological paradox that is the spoiling parent not understanding why their child is spoiled. Oh ho ho ho ho YES.
Thank god, I was starting to think that I was the only one feeling this way. Perhaps I’m just old fashioned (even more so than the mother, apparently), but if you spoil your child then it’s your own fault. You can’t start crying when they turn out precisely how you brought them up.
My dad gave me his old truck (I paid him a dollar for it) and I’d say that’s about 95% spoiling. If it weren’t for the facts that the old truck had virtually no trade-in value and that giving me the old truck made his life easier because now I can drive myself home from college, then it would be 100% spoiling. I pay my own gas, insurance, rent and bills, and if I had asked my parents to sell the truck and buy me something else, or in any way indicated that I was less than ecstatic about the truck, they would’ve laughed in my face and never given me the keys.
The gift of a car, even your parents’ old one, is a massive thing and you should thank them profusely and be grateful and use it to run errands for them without complaint. My parents made that clear when they put the title in my name. This kid is a jerk and the parents should look in the mirror if they want to know why.
Yeah yeah, I know. I was just saying because Terrell is my friend
I bought my own truck with my life savings, got a really well taken care of ’96 Ford Ranger, and I love that truck to death. I’ve been raised to really appreciate everything I have, because I’ve never really been handed anything (besides the essentials, and christmas presents). It really ticks me off when kids decide they want something, ask their parents for it, and get it immediately. Because if I really want something and I don’t have the means to get it, it’s a whole year until christmas to find out if my parents will actually get it for me or not. So honestly I don’t take these things for granted, I’m currently a full time college student searching like crazy for a job, because I do feel guilty every time I crawl to my parents for gas money. My insurance is high because I’m a new driver, but I have good grades and being a full time student gets me a discount.
I’ve kinda gone on a rant now…anyway, the point is that I don’t take these things for granted and I am grateful for what I have earned. My friend Terrell is honestly a good guy, and once his fault was pointed out, he was extremely sorry for the way he acted. I was starting to get upset reading all the nasty things that people on here were assuming about him…I started feeling bad for posting this
*Katie awesome comment. I’m an old guy. Forced to work summers starting when I was 15 for pocket money. Dad bought a junker for me and my brother to get back and forth to our summer jobs. It was great! I loved it. We paid for gas, insurance, repairs et cetera but still thought it was too good for words. My problem with your friend and this whole thing is this: complaining is not bad, in and of itself, everyone does it; the problem here is doing it where mom could see it and get deeply hurt and offended. Communication and information technology is newish (I grew up in the ’60s). Even back then we had to learn when and where to complain because you had to make sure you knew who was listening. This all part of growing up. My heart goes out to both your friend and his mom. Mom got hurt bad. Maybe Terrell learned from this.
Sell the car.
Get yourself something nice, like a TV for your bedroom.
Buy the child a bus pass.
Explain to child that because they couldn’t be satisfied, you will no longer try to satisfy them.
Ignore complaints of being unfair.
I’m reminded of Linkara’s “Bimbo’s In Time” comic book review, where he mentions that the entire comic’s crappiness was summed up in one sound effect posted near halfway point of the comic: Poop.
How about, never humiliate your parents in public with private matters??? shot in the dark here, but I’m gonna wager you don’t have children, or at least none that can talk.
The car was most likely purchased from a public company, or maybe it was a private relative. Who knows? These jokes are such a double-edge-sword for us, or in this case, a two-lane highway.
ok, you’ve said this more than once, thanks for being a friend to the entitled little monster. Regardless of WHERE the car came from, the brat didn’t pay for it, if they wanted something else, than take it upon themselves to sell what they were given, use the $$$ to buy a new car, and if they don’t have enough, GET A JOB!
And not to Kaite, but in general, most kids I grew up with couldn’t drive if they couldn’t pay their own insurance, no matter whose car they were driving. Paying for your own stuff makes it much more valuable, and the kid tends to be a A LOT more careful after that they realise that the speeding ticket made the insurance go up…
Dude I’m just letting people know so they quit assuming things. He has been my friend for a long time, he really is a great guy. Once his faults were pointed out he was truly sorry for the way he was acting. He immediately started trying to make it up to his parents. Terrell is a really good person, and just as imperfect as any of us.
Regardless of Terrell’s personal qualities, he has made an enormous mistake – he brought his complaints into the public domain.
In this thread he has become, not the “great” Terrell you know, but a symbol of juvenile selfishness. Your weak attempt at making him sound less awful is simply way too little, way too late.
I know enough about him through his post to know he’s a spoiled jerk. One shouldn’t post idiotic rants to a public domain if they want people to know what a really good person they are.
If he apologized immediately afterward and is such a good person, then he shouldn’t have been b*tching about his parents behind their backs in the first place.
Actually, you don’t know enough about him to know what he is or isn’t. You know that he was ACTING like a spoiled jerk, but that does not mean he IS a spoiled jerk.
Furthermore, placing something on facebook does not place it in the public domain. Things placed on facebook can and sometimes are still protected by copyright law, but facebook is automatically granted rights for as long as the item is there.
As for if he should or shouldn’t be saying stuff like that – well, he’s human (I expect anyway). Can you honestly say you’ve never made a mistake in your life? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Or perhaps in this instance he who has sinned should block some of them instead.
She’s right. Parents now a days spoil the f**k out of their kids by giving them sooo much they don’t need and really expensive too! If u don’t want a spoiled child, don’t spoil them. It’s sad that I’m right and tons of parents r mind numbingly retarded
Hey, I’m working to pay for my own car. This kid should get his head out of his rear and get a job, instead of complaining about his parents who did buy him a car which he turned his nose up at.
There is so much to say to this. My mom bought me my first car, but it was a junker just as every teenagers first car should be. After that, I was on my own if I wanted a new car. She paid the insurance and gas, but I didn’t waste my gas, I drove to school and back and on weekends to my friends. Or if she needed something in town, I would get it for her. I told her thank you constantly and never griped when asked to do something for her with my car. This kid is just a spoiled brat who has obviously never used the phrase “thank you”. I would have humiliated him too if he were my son. Not only that but I would tell him to get a job and pay for the car and everything that goes with it himself. Learn to be responsible as well as learning some respect.
I don’t know whats wrong with some people. In my family, my parents gave me and my younger sisters both our first cars. My car was my dad’s old corolla, so when my sister was old enough to drive she got my grandma’s old buick. She gets all pissed off that I got a better car than her, she’s not grateful that she got a car for FREE (and my parents pay for most of her gas too.)
My parents gave me my first car… they said (when I was a junior in high school with so-so grades) that they would if I got into my first-choice college. They didn’t reckon on the impact that an all honors/AP curriculum, awesome SATs, and a kick-ass application essay would have on my chances.
They paid my insurance, too (on their policy) but I paid gas and registration.
They flat-out REFUSED to get me an old beater, though. It was used, but had to be reliable and checked out by our family’s mechanic. I had to do the actual shopping, too. I ended up with a Civic that I was just glad had four doors and cloth instead of vinyl seats!
Yeah, as long as a car isn’t dangerous or falling apart I don’t really care how old/cool it is. I couldn’t imagine getting a decent free car and then saying it’s not good enough, I’ll be lucky to ever get a free car.
I’d put it the same way my father did, so simple it’s unarguable… “When you are old enough to drive you’ll be old enough to buy your own car and pay your own insc.”
*grateful not greatful. That’s assuming that the mother thinks that the child should feel ‘gratified’ for for not having had to pay for the car, insurance or gas, rather than ‘full of greatness’.
Parents that buy cars for their kids make me sick, just because I’m jealous because I had to pay for my own car, as well as the gas and insurance until I hit college and I had to pay for that too. I finally told my parents that I couldn’t afford college plus car insurance.
Also, I don’t think kids whose parents by cars for them take care of their cars as well as kids who buy their own cars… but I really have no citation for that, that’s just from experience.
I think kids who are raised to understand how to take care of a car take better care of their cars than kids who are insulated from the whole process. We do the best we know how to do; part of that learning is modeling and teaching, part of it is experience. If we only have one or the other, we tend to learn more slowly and less completely.
So, if you go with your parents to the mechanic, and they show you the manual and what it says you need to do at this point and that point in the car’s life, and they explain that “tire rotation” is NOT something that happens in the normal course of driving and that oil starts out clear and isn’t meant to be burned… yadda yadda… then when it’s time to take your own car in for service, you know what to ask for, how to identify a decent mechanic, what you should be paying, etc.
If the car just mysteriously runs and runs and you never learn how to pump gas, much less how to get maintenance… well. Your car is probably going to run out of gas before it needs an oil change.
I like how she is arguing as if SHE is not responsible for raising her kid to be a brat. If she did her job right he wouldn’t be spoiled in the first place. Kids don’t get f**ked up from nothing.
Mom needs to stop replying on Facebook and actually put her foot down. If the kid is being a selfish bastard, make him buy his own damn car. Teach him a lesson about money and responsibility.
Instead, she’s going to get him a new one and pay for all of it, which leaves the kid with what? Nothing but a comment on Facebook that he probably won’t even listen to.
I don’t give a rats @ss what my teenager says about me on the internet with his friends. I’m not stooping to that level. However, I doubt he would berate me like this as he is the silent type….and can’t type worth a hoot! LOL
Hell, i have had 3 cars and i am 23 i paid for all of them. i also have had a job since high school to pay for them. and i am paying off college while still in it doing and paying for my car. so kids need to quit complaining about mommy and daddy not buying them s**t.
So… there weren’t any ungrateful and/or spoiled kids back in the good ol’ days? Yes if the mom is spot on about all that, the kid is ungrateful. Yes, the kid is probably ungrateful because he’s unhappy about something else that they haven’t worked out. No, this is not a thing that is unique to the terrible changes of the new generations.
When the mom said she had to quit her job (I suppose the father also had a job) I assume they never spent much time with their child to teach him things like humility, respect, or patience. It’s equally the child’s blame as well as the parents for him becoming a spoiled brat.
That’s kinda an odd thing to say, if you don’t mind my input. My mom’s one of my best friends, but as far as I can tell I’m not an ingrateful brat. I do see your point, I just wanted to make mine.
The second part of your comment there is very true though
“AND having a kid is expensive – people should realize that before breeding. Too many parents have kids, then blame the kid for having to spend money. Kids need pocket money, they need to have food, they need some nice things, etc.”
Are you freaking kidding? They need some nice things?!?!?!?
This “kid” needs ONE THING: A job.
No, wait, two things: A job and a kick in the ass. What a loser. I hope he doesn’t get a car.
Note that his friends are buying their own cars… mom’s a fool if she believes his whining crap that nobody buys their own cars these days.
My kid is FOUR and she already knows she’s paying for college, any cars and insurance in the future, and her rent from the age of 18 or high school graduation, whichever comes last. Like we did (Generation X, not even that old, thank you very much). We tell her several times a week.
“Don’t underestimate the effort it takes to pay attention 7-8 hours”
LOL LOL Are you serious?
Jenny Z–YES!!!!!!
“What is wrong with youth today?”
His friends seem to be buying their own cars… seems like it’s a problem in his family. Mom, you can be inconsistent. It’s human. Admit you were wrong and take your money and make him buy his own car!
While I believe kids should pay their own way… really? You tell a four year old many times a week that she’s paying for her own COLLEGE? Is there, um, any context for this or do you just randomly remark “hey [insert kid's name here], you’re totally paying for your own college!”?
My four year old niece hasn’t quite grasped what college even is yet.
Nothing wrong with getting college and/or rent money from your parents if they can afford it and you can focus on getting your future together because of it, as long as you invest your energy (which would have otherwise been spent on procuring finances) in your studies, excelling at a hobby or sport or something of that nature. Also, be thankful and appreciative of what has been given to you as you are simply lucky to be in such a position. This kid is neither thankful nor appreciative, so I wholeheartedly agree he should finance his motor vehicle his own d*mn self!
BTW: If you, dear ma’am, have burdened your four year old with the knowledge that you have claimed to have bestowed upon him/her, then I find that very distasteful indeed. Kids that age shouldn’t yet know about life’s harsh realities, let them be kids for crying out loud! I truly hope you were only trying to make a point. Sincerely yours, a random stranger who has, admittedly, butting-in issues..
No, are YOU freaking kidding me? YES they need some nice things because they don’t have it easy either, and NO, not every kid can have a job or can even afford the time to have one. I sure as hell couldn’t – and my father was good enough to realise that studies come first to give us a fair chance at the future. In the US, school is a lot easier – teenagers have time to take a job, in most of Europe, that’s just not possible. The work load after school (which ends at 4.30 in most places I believe) is a lot higher as well and homework and studying take up most of the rest of the time. Weekends have piles of homework too and I used to spend most of my Sunday getting everything done.
Plus, you’re one big head case if you burden your 4 year old with such things. A BIG head case – she has other things to worry about than having to pay, for example having a nutty mother.
Try most schools in east asia on for size. We started at 7:00 am and ended at 5:00 from primary school straight up to high school.
That’s near the bottom end of the range btw.
I knew a little girl, about 9, who studied from 7:00 am to 11:00 pm most weekdays fitting in cram school after regular school and then tutoring after that.
I do most heartily agree that burdening a FOUR YEAR OLD (srsly, wtf?) with college woes is utter bollocks.
Maybe school was a breeze for you, but it’s very hard for some people. I really hope it’s a breeze for your daughter too, because you’re clearly not going to be any help if it isn’t.
Yes, this Terrell guy is clearly spoiled, but “You’re on your own the second you turn 18 or graduate” is a pretty lousy thing to tell a child.
School a breeze? Why yes, it was, but I was laughing because if you think the 7 – 8 hours of concentration ends after school, you’re hilarious. After that comes WORK–hard work.
And nobody in my family can get out of the house fast enough. That’s because we were raised to scorn freeloaders–not people who can’t, of course, but those who won’t. I can’t think of a single person among my cousins, aunts, uncles, and even nieces and nephews that was not able to pay rent at 18, and pay car insurance.
And if you’re really hard up… there’s always the infantry or the Church.
How’s that for motivation to get off your ass and do something?
“because you’re clearly not going to be any help if it isn’t.”
I don’t think HELP consists of enabling a lazy person. Help = offering counseling, paying for tutors, offering to move home so the child can attend a better school more adapted to her needs, even…
wait for it…
BUYING THE KID A BUS PASS.
Which is how some of us got to work when we didn’t want to pay for car insurance. OMGZ, see how that works?
Don’t worry, my kids aren’t to precious to ride the bus or the metro. We’ve been known to raise tough kids in my family. We have to: we’re working class and somebody has to pay taxes to subsidize Terrell’s lifestyle (’cause it looks like his own parents are going to be getting the dependent deduction for some time now).
I’m glad you live in an area with public transportation. You’re really lucky.
I don’t mind that my tax dollars are going towards supporting your children in public school.
Here’s the thing though — my parents didn’t have to resort to threats about kicking me out at age 18 to “motivate” me to better myself and work hard. To me that smacks of poor parenting. My parents gave me a lot in life, but they were (are!) great parents in that they know that the message & lesson is more important than the stuff.
So if you have to tell a 4 year old several times a week that she will be on her own, financially, once she hits 18, in order to get your message across that one needs to work hard in life, that’s not effective parenting.
Sorry, had to laugh a bit there. Oh wait, jk, a lot. My mom was only able to pay for college through the DRS due to a visual disability, and my father had a scholarship. They are both visually impaired so we have ridden the bus EVERYWHERE since… well, since forever. Yes, I am sure driving a car is nice but it doesn’t mean taking the bus makes you tough. Even is you were saying the “precious” wording in sarcasm, it failed to advocate your point. I don’t think anyone should be scorned, even “Freeloaders”. Money doesn’t equate to happiness and on occasion lethargy and lack of motivation can be due to emotional stress. Their responsibilities will catch up with them eventually but even then they shouldn’t be laughed at for getting just desserts. Goodness, so much for everyone’s equal. Excuse me while I anger face. Not to mention, how can the kid pay rent if they don’t have a job first? What happens if the economy goes into the bucket when the girl graduates, and she loses her job and no one will hire a girl who just came out of high school? You kick her out? What then? How much have you thought this through?
Although I can agree that kids should work for their keep (in my house, the only thing I don’t do is pay the rent), there are labor laws now that weren’t around in my mom’s day, so it’s not like a four-year-old (or anyone until 16) can actually work for their keep unless you’re talking about chores, but it doesn’t sound like you are.
It really bugs me when people whine about kids not having jobs. Even if it was legal, working 8 hours a day with 6 hours of school and 6 more hours of homework, an hour for dinner and an hour and a half for doing laundry wouldn’t let me sleep OR do all my chores.
No, the “back in my day” argument is not BS. What matters are the individuals involved in relating the argument, not the general society.
“Back in my day” meant a cell phone with 300 minutes, no or limited texting functionality, and on the internet there was nothing but Geocities filled websites with black backgrounds and stars with nonsensical .gif animations on Netscape Navigator. Things are much different now.
I was content as a child to have a few Ninja Turtle action figures, and that large red rubber T-Rex from the Jurassic Park Kenner toys series.
My niece is content with nothing less than a netbook in her backpack, a cellphone with double touch screens, and always complaining about what she doesn’t have.
I was one of very few kids who didn’t have his parents buy them a car at my school. I worked for months with my dad before a Jeep Cherokee that he bought for himself he gave to me (one with nearly 200K miles on it, only a few years younger than myself). I was grateful for it.
Since 18 my parents have paid for nothing. I do everything. Yet many classmates from my generation (I’m 27 now) still live at home. Still have cars partly financed by parents. Still are going to school on their parents dime after 3 failed majors.
It’s really a kind of self pitying gesture to even suggest kids don’t demand more and expect less of themselves than the previous generation. It wasn’t that way that long ago. There was a time when parents actually saw much more potential in their children than in themselves. Now, thanks to social networking, something I refuse to partake in as a one man boycott, too many kids these days are an instant gratification culture, selfish to the extreme, and only exposed to the internet world rather than the real world.
Not too long, if you didn’t read you’re a lazy bastard. And no, commenting online to a post is not social networking. I don’t know who you are, nor do I care.
You weren’t spoilt but you know people who were. The same applies to everyone who wasn’t spoilt who’s ever met other people. How and why does that mean that the ‘back in my day…’ argument is valid? Kids have always been spoilt, it’s nothing new and won’t be going away for a very long time. Anyone who seriously believes that kids were all hard working sophisticated folks before the late 20th century is simply kidding themselves.
You’re saying your friends and teachers spoiled you? Bought you loads of stuff, just because you begged till it got annoying? Or even without you asking at all? Sure, school is a huge influence on a kid growing up, but in my personal experience, only family turns you spoiled!
No. Missed the point entirely. When people say kids are rotten, so they must have rotten parents, that’s not always the case. My parents were great. If you were to judge them based on my sister though, you would think they were horrible. Your friends and teachers don’t have to give you things in order to make you a conceited, spoiled, expectant kid, you just have to develop the personality that covets everything your friends have that you don’t, along with a demanding attitude.
Um… No. I wasn’t a bad kid. I may have had difficult moments, but my parents have both told me I never had a rebellious streak. I had nothing to rebel against, and I realized that.
If your sole purpose for trying to contradict everyone and everything is based on your experience of being a rotten kid, well, I guess you were just a rotten kid then. Don’t try to drag everyone else to your level.
Nope, I didn’t rebel either. However, me personally not rebelling does not mean that my generation was perfect. You’re delusional if you think that your generation was any better than the ones before or after it.
Does it seem to you that people have a loss of sense of direction, a loss of motivation and of self esteem? That seems most common, because even though I’m 19, at my community college everyone seems to be that way. People tell us “It takes time to get things together, to figure things out” and they’re nice and patient. If I don’t do well this semester my father told me he won’t pay for the next semester, which I found reasonable. I understood his reasoning perfectly, but it still makes me feel sad when I look around at the other kids at my college who are stressed constantly yet lethargic and sad, and are failing. When you fail, there is no one to say “Keep trying” and you lose faith in yourself. It seems even though we are spoiled materially today, that it obviously doesn’t make up for lack of emotional support and maybe that is what is hindering our sad, lost generation. It makes sense to me… I see shells who smile and laugh about pointless things but fail and are good hearted about it somehow. Our generation is proof that money can NOT buy happiness. (Sorry it’s been on my mind for a while, and really has been getting me down)
You’re not alone my friend, the same subject you explained has been going through my mine for the past few weeks and I’m seeing the same view you are.
I am also going to a community college and notice the same downward spiral these “kids” are falling towards. Yet I notice people try to put up fronts as if everything was were to be alright, which I highly believe that religion is part of the growing up process, the fact that you must find it in yourself to keep pushing, yet no one but yourself is telling you that.
And in this day and age, with social media and cable networks, it’s looked at as being “stupid”, that we “must” tweet and fb message someone in order to stay connected. Idk but this whole moral/upbringing process is tough for all generations and what exactly are parents trying to achieve other than a normal, sane child?
I am currently stuck trying to get a car, and my parents will help me look and maybe loan me a few hundred £ but I wont get it free. My brother usually gets the help.
I think parents who have selfish kids should kick them out as soon as they leave school. Let them see how hard it is alone.
I think that kid needs to pay for (at least some of) it himself, he is totally undeserving of parents like that!
I’m a bit spoiled myself, and I admit that, but I’m nowhere near this guy! My parents are going to pay for it when I eventually come round to getting a driver’s license, but that’s only because we had a deal that I wouldn’t smoke or drink before I turned 18. I will most likely have to buy my own car, and I would rather work my ass of for it than get it from my parents, because they have done way more than enough for me already.
Most of my friends who have driver’s licenses paid for it themselves, and either bought their own cars, or use their parents’ car, but pay for gas etc. out of their own pocket.
wow, you made me feel bad about myself, I started to drink and smoke when I was 13 (I smoked once but I didn’t like it, it tastes like crap), when I was 17 I wrecked my mom’s a4, when I was 18 my dad bought me a Jetta (like a Jetta TDI), I’m 22 and he is going to buy me a Passat now, if you thought I’m spoiled… my sister’s first car was a malibu, the my dad bought her a class c, she got a mercedes! when I asked him why I couldn’t get a cool car like her, he told me something like “I have to give her more because she is a girl and I don’t want her to need anything, specially from guys”, can you believe that!? she moved to canada and now she is getting an acura or something.
Btw, yo can totally drink, just make sure you eat before, during and after you drink, drink alcohol with respect (it’s not water) and you should be okay, also, if you know you’re going to get drunk don’t take your car with you, don’t drink something cheap (it’s your liver!), as I told you, I started to drink when I was 13, do you think I asked my parents if I was allowed to drink? hell no, they didn’t found out untill my friends brought me home totally unconscious and I started to scream, I was 17. Now that I’m 22 I can assure you that you get totally bored from it, I haven’t drink anything in 2 months and I don’t feel like having a drink at all.
The kid is a whiny sack of crap who will spend his life complaining and blaming others for his well earned failures. She needs to let him ride his bike until he turns 18 and then kick his ass to the curb until he learns to be grateful for the roof above his head and the food in his belly. Teenagers are just homeless people that you allow to live in your home. He will have a hard lesson to learn when mommy and daddy don’t provide for him anymore.
I think the parent needs to look at need vs. want. Things change – making the “back in my day” argument both relevant and irrelevant at the same time. Back in my father’s day you didn’t need a car or a degree to get somewhere in the world. Today you don’t need a car but to get somewhere is helped very much by a degree to the point where it is now considered a need. I hope I can start an account to help my child/ren with their first degree (no more) but I have no intention of buying them a car and paying for all that comes with it.
Generations are a hard thing to divide – remember who raised them but let’s not forgot that we all have to take responsibilty for our choices and actions at some point. It stops being the parents’ fault to become the person’s fault.
Should the kid have attacked his parents on Facebook? No. But, should Mom have validated it with a response? No.
Seems to me like the kid complains because Mom validates it with reactions. If Mom isn’t paying attention to how bad he feels he has it, what’s the best way to get her to notice? Criticize her on Facebook.
Immaturity breeds immaturity. Buying things for a child while pampering them their entire lives doesn’t mean you’re giving them a good life. In some ways, it’s rather the opposite. Sad to say that children like this may find themselves desperately clinging to the pampering for most of their lives, which would postpone or negate any chance of learning true independence.
Money…it’s what makes the world and families go ’round…
Like I said before, she’s at the very least partly to blame – spoiled kids ONLY become spoiled if you spoil them throughout the years, it’s that simple. In a family, it’s no coincidence that, when one kid is spoiled, the others nearly always are, as well. It’s because it’s natural behaviour – you set the “bar” and if you then go under that bar, the bar the kids are used to, they’ll complain.
I grew up with a father who pushed me hard in school – I had little free time besides homework, studying and making dinner and doing dishes (yes I had to do that too) and until I was 16, I got no allowance. I couldn’t afford anything except what I was given and looking back, it does annoy me because I never had a chance to go out and make friends outside of school. I couldn’t even afford going to see a movie or going to a café so there’s two sides to this – as a parent, I think you need to motivate but also reward your kids. You’re still a parent, you decided on having the kid, so you carry the responsibility of turning him or her into a well educated grown up with as few issues as possible.
May I suggest the mother and father teach their selfish brat a lesson by investing that money in someone who will truly appreciate the value of a dollar? I have gas, car insurance and school loans to be paid and I would even write a very nice thank you note. Hell, I would call you on the weekend and inquire about your health. I bet junior won’t call once he has his own apartment…providing he ever leaves.
If this “kid” is having to pay for school…granted with mom & dad’s money…doesn’t that make them over 18? Why are they pissin’ and moanin’ about how mean their parents are? There’s plenty of part-time jobs available…and there’s “work-study” for college kids. I’m with Mom on this one (although I’m not sure the “when I was a kid…” stuff was necessary).
I admit I get off fairly well. My parents are paying for my first car, gas, insurance, etc., and paid for the repairs when the fuel pump blew–and this is all with the knowledge that I can’t get a job at all, not from lack of effort, but because someone has to watch my younger siblings while Mom works–aka me.
So in essence, I feel extraordinarily guilty 95% of the time because my parents shuffle so much money into making sure I have things I need and I can’t pay them back. I don’t like asking for money for anything else when I can avoid it unless I do some extra work and earn it.
Not everyone in my generation is terrible, but man, some of them (like this one) could use some humility, too. :T
Wow. I’m 14 and I feel the same way. I still feel guilty because I got a 1080p TV for my birthday. Sure it was a $200 knockoff brand, but it’s still an HDTV.
If my parents bought me a car I probably wouldn’t be able to take the guilt. Terrell is really a self-entitled brat.
Why do you spend 95% of your time feeling guilty? Your parents are providing these things for you. You are accepting them. Are you beating your parents to get the money? No? Then don’t feel guilty.
If it wasn’t for the fact I’m not even willing to read past the first 20-30 replies I see, I would copy this whole thing to put it up as it’s own fail. A joke site puts up a pave about a funny post on facebook and gets hundreds of replies arguing over how spoiled/wrong/whatever individual people are. Forget who is to blame, which generations need a reality check, and all the rest of it – ALL of us (yes, me too) really ought to look for what in the world is wrong with us that we’d bother with this conversation in such a place as this.
My first car was a buick park avenue. It was my mom’s used car. Did I want to try an “old person’s” vehicle? No. But it was a car. Besides that, I could fit 8 people into it if I had to, I could control the exact temperature, and the speakers were very nice. Lots of kids where I lived would shell out 1 to 2 grand on fixing up the stereos in their s**tty jeeps. Their s**tty, flimsy, gas guzzling jeeps. don’t get me wrong, my buick wasn’t much better on miles per gallon, but I definitely got the better deal in the long run.
Oh, AND IT WAS A FREE CAR! All I had to do was pay for gas!
I’m one of the olds and I hate to tell the mom, but there were spoiled brats “back in my day” and in everyone’s day. In any event, I’d bet money that the car will be wrecked within six months of receiving it. There will be lecturing. And then a new one will be bought.
Cool and all… But if she’s buying him a car when he doesn’t even have a permit, she can’t exactly complain about him not being responsible enough to buy his own car. If she’s spoiling him that much, it’s not exactly his fault he doesn’t have incentive to get a job…
Oh, and I’m a teenager who will have to buy her own car, pay for her own gas, etc when the time comes.
I wish my parents had the money to give me a car when I was 15/16/17 (however old this kid is that he doesn’t have his permit yet), but they didn’t and I was completely fine with it. I’m 19 and I still don’t have my own car (mainly due to being unable to get a job… stupid economy). I am just grateful that my parents are still providing for me (home, food, etc) while I go to college.
Yes, the “back in my day” was probably unnecessary, but the kid is definitely acting like a spoiled brat.
i agree w/the mom as well as w/others who commented that she (they) may have created the selfish little brat… i have 3 kids one who is a happy healthy well educated adult, nothing was given to her…and she is proud she was able to do it on her own (just like nothing was handed to me – my mom was widowed at a young age – she couldn’t afford it) and i am raising my younger 2 the same way – my middle one just turned 15 – we were looking at learner’s permit – she gave me $ she got from her w/e job towards the fees…lessons learned =) she also understands the value of a dollar… parents need to get a grip and not complain when they have given into their kids all their lives and expect something different when they reach near adulthood…garbage in-garbage out
Insurance is “for the car” in a sense, but cars don’t drive themselves. Therefore, rates (and indeed approval itself) are based on the driver, just as much as they’re based on the type of car.
If you have a record of accidents, moving violations, and in some cases even if you simply have a low credit score, you will pay a higher premium because you are considered to be a higher risk. Experience and wisdom are felt to come with age and practice, so a young (teenage, early 20s) driver will pay more than a “mature” driver (mid 20s and up).
Most insurance policies will cover “incidental drivers” – you let your friend borrow your car for the weekend, the designated driver takes you home, your relative’s car is in the shop for a few days so they use yours – but the general rule is that if a person drives the car on a consistent basis (for instance, more than twice a week, or every weekend), then they are required to be on the policy. And, generally, anyone under the age of 21 MUST be listed on the policy to be covered at all.
1) there is such a thing as non owner insurance, making owning the car at the time of insurance un-true.
2) his mother spelled because “cuz” thus rendering the entire rest of her argument invalid. set a better example for your child and his grammar.
This is why my dad used to literally kick me out of the house when I made crazy demands as a kid. Having to sleep on the front porch suddenly makes you a lot more appreciative. He still bought me a car when i graduated from college though. I just pay for gas and insurance. Thanks Dad
I dont know whats worse, Terrell and his entitlement or the numerous assclowns in this thread who tl;dr anything longer than a tweet. You all make me sick. The congenitally wealthy are often the worst people in the world. This failbook post is the same principle on a smaller scale.
Well, its all very well for mom to complain now – she raised the kid, and kids don’t just go randomly spoiling themselves do they? To some extent kids tend to react and behave within the bounds set by their parents and the treatment they receive from them.
What a nasty whiny entitled little brat though. Well done to his mom for finally slapping him down. Hopefully his whiny brat routine on FB will do him out of a nice new car for being an ungrateful little turd.
My parents were pretty generous to me, and didn’t charge me any rent or anything while I lived with them – which I did until I was 22 – and even more super-parently of them they put me through college and paid all my tuition, because they saw a good education as an important life-thing, but they sure didn’t go paying for nice ‘extras’ like smart cars. I bought my own crapmobile with my own wages, and found it pretty satisfying.
You know those kids on that reality show about having their sweet sixteens? Spoiled brats. Whiny, stupid, rotten brats. This kid’s parents clearly cared enough to feed his whims(which is their mistake), but hearing this from him was just too much. I say kick him out of the house and see if he’ll still be any less grateful than he already was.
seeing kids like this make me more and more ashamed about my generation.
Well if Mom had made her son go without long before he got old enough to drive – this whole post would have never happened. Mom wouldn’t have to mend any broken bones and the kid would either have his own car cause he worked hard to get it himself, or he’d be riding his “fricken” bike with no complaints! It’s up to the parents to give our children coping skills long before they get old enough to drive.
Can’t really say much on the content of the fail, but I’m amused by the hard-luck-life contest in the comments. Glad to know that apparently every commenter here had to sell their own organs for pocket change as they walked up the hill both ways in the snow every day in order to scrounge food or some such nonsense.
Really, I’m the only person who got a car from my parents? They paid for insurance too. And I had a college savings account. Never paid rent or anything like that. Somehow I turned out ok, go figure.
I think the point of the fail is that the OP was whining and generally being VERY picky about something that was being given to them, something that is worth a LOT of money. Be grateful that your parents were able to provide all of those things for you.
I am grateful that my parents were able to afford things and provide for me. I don’t see what would make you think I’m ungrateful.
I get what the fail is about. I’ve also read the comments made by the friend who submitted the fail in which she says that Terrell isn’t really that bad a guy and that there is only one bus line in their area.
My point was in regards to the mass of commenters who are apparently in competition with 1800′s British street urchins as to who has the more hard luck life. Because apparently one must show off his or her qualifications and prove that s/he could never be considered spoiled in order to leave a comment.
That spoiled brat doesn’t deserve parents, that are willing to put up with his crap and put so much hard work and funds in him. There are kids that are in abusive homes, or have no home at all and would be a thousand times more grateful for a little kindness thrown their way, than this douchebag will ever be for all that he has been given. If he was my kid I would disown him.
Agreed. My parents didn’t have a lot, and I earned all my own money for stuff beyond food/school supplies/basic clothes since I was 13. But I have to say, the parent let the behavior get that far…
lol I can’t believe the number of comments this is still getting. You people do know this is failbook AKA failblog right?
Oh, and just for the record people BUSES AREN’T AVAILABLE EVERYWHERE!
As for my personal. I’m 22, have no car or license still due to vision problems, and at that age I wasn’t able to attempt to get a job due to lack of transportation out in the middle of nowhere. Have fun attacking that if you want.
Oh, and Terrell, sorry one moment of selfishness & one mistake is getting you attacked by the whole internet. Just saying.
Terrell and I live in a very small town, I think there is one bus service, but I don’t even know where it is. There are very few jobs available…I’ve been applying to everywhere I can find for a year now…still no job.
*hugs*
I sympathize on the job front, dear – and I’m a decade older than you!
And as for all this – it’s normal…just plug your ears until the trolls’ mating frenzy is over. ^_^
Thank you for pointing out the poor public transportation system in the U.S.
I’m seriously jealous of all the people talking about getting bus passes, etc. Must be nice living in an area with decent public transportation. A lot of us don’t have that luxury.
There’s an alright transit system when I live, but it costs over 100 a month to use it. So just because there’s good public transport doesn’t mean everyone can use it anyway.
‘Whatever happened to saying “thanks mom and dad, for not getting arrested for child neglect for failing to feed, clothe, or shelter me! I know that was a totally unselfish and unnecessary act on your part! Not like you would have gotten in serious legal trouble otherwise or anything!”?’
I have to agree with you to some extent, to be honest.
No parent deserves a medal for doing the basics for their child (feeding, clothing, sheltering, educating) for the base 18 years of the child’s life. If they DO want a medal for it, Serious. Issues.
Example 1: Why you don’t add your parents/accept their friend requests on Facebook. It takes away your ability to complain about them, assuming they can actually figure out how to use it.
You see, i’m probably around this kids age, only child etc etc. My dad made me work for every penny i’ve earnt, i’m currently working 2 jobs, plus uni and somewhat of a social life JUST for rent/bills/car/insurance/gas. To be honest its a killer and i’m burning myself out at 16 (Yes, I graduated High School at 15, bumped up 2 grades in total).
It’s okay to give your kids an allowance, but never fully separate yourselves from your child. I was and now i’m paying for it dearly, I can barely afford anything and am losing friends because I work a total of 6 days a week, only have $12 left after bills and can never do anything.
This is exactly why people shouldn’t friend their parents on FB, in fact, parents shouldn’t be allowed on FB period (and no I’m not a teen, I’m a full grown adult).
Terrell’s definitely being a spoiled brat, but the mom doesn’t seem particularly great either. It’s possible to get stuff for your kids and teach them to be grateful. If they’re not, then obviously you as parents have not done a proper job of raising them.
What a spoiled brat. Most kids don’t get cars until they GRADUATE from high school. This one is just now starting and he’s crying because he’s not getting the car he wants.
I never did. I don’t have money and I don’t own a car. And I don’t lie. A car is not a necessity, at least where I live so I would never ask for a car to him. I wouldn’t even concider thinking he should buy me one. Thats would be rude.
Dear “Mom”: While you’re mending your broken bones and cleaning up the tire tracks, how ’bout you work on your parenting skills? Cuz guess who created your little monster?!
I get so sick of these parents complaining about “kids these days” feeling entitled. Your bed, etc.
Parents need to learn from the animal kingdom. When bear cubs get old enough to be able to fend for themselves, the parent bear chases them up a tree, then leaves them there. From then-on, they are on their own.
Or, like my dad said to me: GTFO.
Suddenly having to fend for one’s self really does wonders for a human being.
perhaps they should have made him work for things in the beginning (school and the Accord), and he wouldn’t expect to get things for free later in life…
She lost me after she started into the “back in my day” B.S.
I’m guessing you’re easily “lost” whenever the topic isn’t about you, your stomach or your immediate (and innumerable) needs.
Snerk.
Burned.
lol, much like the brat Terrell. He wouldn’t be getting a bus pass after that if I were his parent
True that! And well done Terrell´s mom!
Well done? She raised Terrell! This is very much too little too late.
It’s almost (please don’t ignore that I’ve put almost) as much a parenting fail as a whiny teen fail.
Agreed. I was on the mom’s side up until she posed the question about why kids became so entitled. it’s because you’ve given them everything they’ve wanted their whole life and catered to their every whim. here’s a tip, don’t spoil your child and wonder at how they got so spoiled.
It’s not that children are spoiled necessarily, it’s that their friends are so they think they are entitled to the same things…
Proving how unbelievably selfish kids are these days. Heaven forbid you get a dose of the truth.
Heck! I’m a PART of the ‘new’ generation and I agree about the selfishness. When/if I get kids, they make their own money. Except school and growing up costs, I say no to ‘hey dad, can i have some money for… (whatever reason)’
As part of the new generation you are enormously selfish for planning to have kids. Back in my day we aborted them with coat hangers
Why don’t you take your volleyball head and jump off the boat?
THen why are you still around?
Obviously Wilson spent the first 9 months of his life dodging coat hangers.
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It works best to give your kids an allowance. There’s no “can I have money for…” because they have this certain amount of money they get periodically, which they can spend or save as they see fit (within the bounds of the law and safety). Then the answer is pretty much always “no,” because they have their own money to work with.
If you wait until they can start earning money (most have to be at least 8 to even get paid for things like dog-walking or yard work from neighbors; in some neighborhoods, you’re just not going to find anything until you’re at least a teenager), they’ve already missed out on a couple years of learning how to save and defer gratification.
I never really got much of an allowance at all, if ever. If I wanted something, I had to help out extra around the house to get paid to have money, unless it was a really special occasion. I know full well how to save money to get things, and the fact that I can’t always get what I want when I want it–and sometimes that I’ll have to start saving months in advance if I want something more expensive. I’ve known that for quite a few years.
The problem comes because kids today are spoiled. So anybody who isn’t spoiled feels like they’re being left out. That’s what I see happening around here, anyway.
No allowance. No “can I haves”….My brother and I mowed lawns, collected bottles (back in the days of returnables) and salvaged scrap metals. When we got older we started our own small cattle herds (granted, our grandparents let us run them with theirs) and farming operations and in our free time we worked for neighboring farmers.
In a nutshell; We worked.
Works well if you’re on a farm.
That’s it! I’ll start a small cattle herd.
My son is 8 years old and doesn’t get an allowance because he’s made and saved several thousand dollars in just the last 2 years breeding earthworms and selling worms for bait as well as worm castings and compost for gardeners. You can start a business long before you can work for someone else.
Kids don’t NEED an allowance to learn how to save money and defer gratification. They need motivation to learn how to earn their own money and make it work for them. The mistake these parents have made is giving their teenager everything and then expecting him to be grateful.
I had this thing called Tac Ticks… it was like a chores and habits booklet.. and every day l would mark off when l had done the usual habits like brushing teeth and going to bed early, and then their would be extras, like cleaning my room, setting the table, drying the dishes… for every tick l had with a task completed, l got 20cents (10p).. and at the end of the week, l got my money.
It was a very effective way to get me into good habits and understand the value of working for money, rather than an allowance, which at the end of the day – is still being handed out for free.
I actually really like this idea. I might just steal it.
I mean, I know the idea of money for the extras, but the booklet is also another form of responsibility. If you lose it or stop keeping records… well, it really would teach you responsibility.
I LOVE this idea!
Awesome idea!!!
It does work great — right up to the time lazy-ass parents (and those are the ones handing over everything rather than putting in the time and effort to enforce boundaries) quit doing their half of the chart. Which I’ve seen happen twice — great start, kid is motivated, and then, “Yeah, honey, I’ll look at the chart later. I don’t have any cash on me, so… ask later.” If the parents drop the ball–
I’m only 24, and back in my day, you had to buy your own car, pay for your own gas, and insurance or you didn’t drive. How else do you learn that Mommy and Daddy won’t coddle your soft, spoiled little ass forever?
I’m 29, my parents gave me all of those things, but they used GOOD PARENTING to teach me the value of hard work. They taught me that they used their hard work and education to give me those things then so I should work hard to better myself so I could provide for myself later. All of my wages went into high yield CDs and a Roth IRA to take advantage of compound interest.
Why everyone here thinks that the only way to prevent a spoiled kid to deny him or her everything is beyond me.
Look up Hesiod. The “back in my day” argument is a fallacy. I’m with Mapcinq, had me til then.
since Gustav won’t look it up:
“I see no hope for the future of our people if they are dependent on the frivolous youth of today, for certainly all youth are reckless beyond words. When I was a boy, we were taught to be discrete and respectful of elders, but the present youth are exceedingly wise and impatient of restraint.”
Hesiod 700 B.C.
It’s not new to complain about youth. Someone complained about her generation too. Civilization keeps on truckin.
“Let’s stop trying to improve the next generation because that’s what everyone has always done in the past.”
That sounds like more of a logical fallacy to me…
Conclusion jump fail; Shipoopi is not saying we should stop trying to improve the next generation, he’s saying it would be nice if the previous generation would stop lying.
The “Back in my day” argument is complete and utter crap. Every generation uses it to complain about the kids in the generations that come after them because they forget that they weren’t the perfect angels that they claim to have been. This is proven by the fact that someone from 700 BC made the same complaints, and I mean EXACT same complaints, about the generations after them, that the previous generation made about mine, and that my generation is currently making about the next.
In other words, because the “Back in my day” argument is complete bullsh*t, it’s not going to improve anything about the next generation. It’ll only continue the same pattern it’s had since the beginning of society.
And now for a reminder: Mapcinq and Shipoopi were stating that Mom’s argument was completely justified until the “Back in my day” statement, for reasons you should already have figured out if you read the rest of my post.
actually, generations are cyclical, so you’re all partially right.
Yay! Thank you so much for this one!
parents that spoil their kids with cars, gas, insurance, etc are horrible parents. make your kids learn to work for their privileges. all that stuff is expensive and kids don’t work hard enough for it.
Just because the “Back in my day” argument has been made for generations does not make it false.
But I agree, civilisation keeps on trucking. Kids eventually learn responsibility, or they become the lesser-paid employees of those who have, if they haven’t somehow Darwinized themselves.
actually it does, if i say that kids were respectful back in my day, but the previous generation said it, that makes my back in my day argument false, because only the first generation to not have that said about them would be respectful
Yo Dawg
I herd u liked logical fallacies, so I made an argument that uses a fallacy to point out the fallacy in your argument about a fallacy so u can argue about a fallacy in an argument about fallacies while u point out a fallacy in an argument about a fallacy in an argument about fallacies.
FAILlacy…
I thought it was funny.
lol
Awesome, Shipoopi.
It happens every single generation.
Except Hesiod wouldn’t have picked the wrong homophone for “discreet”.
Maybe that’s how it was spelt back then. (I’m assuming that ancient Greeks used the latin alphabet and made vowels long by adding an E at the end.)
Dude. A sapient raccoon was CLEARLY being sarcastic.
hahaha mr serious
To be fair, you can never tell with raccoons. The ones in my neighborhood never make linguistic jokes.
thus negating every point i made i suppose
Actually, Hesiod was writing just around the collapse of civilization as they knew it.
Just saying.
“Back in my day” is not a fallacy. You really should look up the word before you use it.
It is one comparing a current condition to a previous condition and finding the current condition wanting in some way.
There is nothing fallacious about stating “In the past, things were like ‘X’ and currently they are ‘Y’” which is exactly what the person above is doing.
fallacy- In logic and rhetoric, a fallacy is incorrect reasoning in argumentation resulting in a misconception.
if i say this generation will be the end of civilization, but the previous said it about mine, the previous about theirs, so on and so forth it becomes a fallacy
how can you not understand that if every generation has said that the generation after it was the one that ruined everything, then that statement is a fallacy
oh wait, because you’re daft
Except for the part where some of those civilizations have ended.
“There is nothing fallacious about stating “In the past, things were like ‘X’ and currently they are ‘Y’” which is exactly what the person above is doing.”
this is true, except for the fact that with the “back in my day” argument, they are not reporting things as they were, they are reporting a nostalgia tinted version of things, making it a misrepresentation of the facts making it a…you guessed it! fallacy!
That’s still not a fallacy.
Nor is it exactly what they’re doing. There’s an implied syllogism with a minor premise that may or may not be true. It USUALLY isn’t — but there’s nothing to rule out that it MIGHT be in a given situation.
Maybe the kid’s selfish — but the parents are to blame for ENABLING it. The kid didn’t want the first car they *gave* him? The answer should’ve been “tough. You want another one, go work for it” not “ok, let’s sell it, we’ll buy you another one”. If Mommy & Daddy pamper the kid, they hardly have the right to then turn around and whine at the kid for being spoiled. It’s a two-way street; the Mom is much more the FAIL here than the kid. The kid’s been raised that way; the parents did the raising.
Totally agree Chris. As much as the kid is to blame, the parents take part of the responsibility.
true, the kid is a turd, but maybe if he had to pay for his own schooling and car and insurance and food and housing like me and so many of my friends he’d be a lot more appreciative.
I still say he needs a good kick in the rear though. My mum would have my head if I pulled garbage like that.
Back in my day, my parents said “No!”
“Proving how unbelievably selfish AMERICAN kids are these days. Heaven forbid you get a dose of the truth.”
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Excuse me?
Racist much?
Really?
Hate to say this, but QUITE a few European kids are growing up just as fat, stupid, lazy, and rude as their American counterparts. Get your head out of your bum and check out the generations instead of generalizing based upon junk you read online or watch on tv.
Seriously? It would appear the greedy English King is what got all the Brits kicked out of America to begin with, no?
Americans had to learn it from their parents – considering most Americans are immigrants, this selfish thing must come from other countries.
You are an idiot just like this kid. Read her paragraph again
You are an idiot just like the mom. Read his statement again.
The only thing the mom is guilty of is spoiling the idiot kid. The kid is the true idiot for posting that nonsense on facebook and not keeping the Accord.
Agreed. I’m 19 and when I got my car (a surprise, I had no idea we were even getting a car, much less for me) I was incredibly grateful. Before this I never complained about not having a vehicle to go places, when needed I’d just drive my dads.
Point is, the person who posted this needs to work his ass off to see what money is worth. That mother is awesome for pwning her son in public where all of his friends can see what a selfish jackass he is.
How tired were your dads after you drove them?
I lol’d.
Same
Yes yes… dad’s* car. :p
The mother might be awesome, but I can’t shake the feeling that this is coming fully out of left field for the kid. This may be the very first dose of truth the kid’s ever received.
“Surprise! You’re not a special little snowflake. Life is an uphill deathmarch. Have fun.”
I’m really curious about what this guy was learning when he was four years old or so. Or ten, or twelve.
and using the “back in my day” argument
Shup
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Am I the only one that sees the true problem here? Kid had a HONDA ACCORD (the nicest car Honda currently makes, having phased out the S2000). Granted it’s not exactly a Ferrari, but I’d take an Accord over an Explorer ANY DAY OF THE WEEK.
Kid’s retarded.
Need I be the only one to say this…apples don’t fall far from their trees. The mom is as big a whiner as her kid. If my kid pulls that crap on me, I’d simply tell him to get a job and pay me rent for living in my house, not go into a huge blowout on Facebook over it.
It’s called face-to-face communication, folks!! Let’s be big boys and girls and try it out sometime!! Takes more balls to say it to my face than to spew it on the internet.
She probably said that on the internet, because he was complaining to all of his friends over facebook about it. I think she has a right as his parent to defend herself and publicly humiliate him.
Agreed. I’d be infuriated if my ungrateful brat of a kid carried on like that in a semi-public place. Kid deserved a smack-down.
Agreed. If it was my kid, after I slammed him on facebook I would drag him outside by the ears and tell him to take the dog out :-p
you are a damn idiot.
YOU need to get off that cloud of “im so high and mighty that everyone needs to look at me while we argue.”
who do you think you are? for those of us that are ACTUALLY respectful to our parents….its kind of hard to take our problems to them in the first place cuz society has grown to be this one place where kids that respect their parents are always….afraid to say anything because of fear they wont like it.
its not easy to go up to someone’s face and just start telling what you feel.
parents always react with this damn attitude that JUST because they are parents and they had their fun to make you and because they carried you in their belly for 9 months, they act like they have the right to verbally supress and abuse.
i give THANKS that i love my parents. i love them and repect them above anyone else. i feel sad that my friends or other people i know arent as blessed.
“get a jon and pay me rent?” i dont think your kid asked to be born YOUR kid. be nice and take THAT into fu**ing consideration.
thank you
GOD bless =)
“parents always react with this damn attitude that JUST because they are parents and they had their fun to make you and because they carried you in their belly for 9 months, they act like they have the right to verbally supress and abuse. ”
LOL it totally does give them the right, sorry. SUCKS TO BE YOU! Don’t worry, I’m sure you’ll be 18 soon enough and then you can figure out how much it sucks to take care of yourself.
If you’re already out in the real world taking care of yourself (which I doubt), then let go of your mommy/daddy issues, damn.
Also you must be a boy, and probably a virgin, with your little “fun to make you” comment. Being pregnant and going through childbirth SUCKS, it’s not fun, and if I were your parent I would say the “fun” in “making you” (are you talking about sex? scary word to you?) was totally not worth it.
hate to break it to you, but the mother was in no way verbally abusing her child. she was setting his selfish ass straight. she and his father were nice enough to pay for his school, his car, his insurance, his gas, etc. i think that gives them EVERY right to chew him out for acting in that manner. i had to buy my first car on my own, and most of my school payments have been from loans. yes, i am on my parents’ insurance, but i also help around the house, go to school, take care of the animals, and so forth. no one chooses their parents. but their house, their money, their rules. if you dont’ like it, then you probably SHOULD go get a job and pay rent somewhere else.
and for the record, it didn’t seem like the kid had a problem with going to his parents. he was just being picky as hell and complaining that his parents didn’t want to get him the car he wanted. there’s two possibilities here from the permit comment: he’s a teenager in a private school, or he’s a college student who waited until now to get his permit. either way, someone needs a huge lesson in responsibility
Maybe they don’t have the “right” to “suppress/abuse.” But they sure as heck have a right to defend themselves when their brats are bashing them on Facebook for not wanting to spend thousands of dollars of their hard-earned money on a car for an ungrateful kid who is ABOUT to get his PERMIT. This isn’t suppression. This is “You wanna air our dirty laundry in public? Fine, then I’ll throw yours at people.”
They’re your parents. You didn’t “ask” to be born their kid, but you BETTER BE FREAKING GRATEFUL they didn’t give you away. You BETTER straighten up and thank them for loving you and keeping you because with how society is today, and with what I’ve seen some parents do, especially when their kids are coming of age, you could be ROTTING in a gutter somewhere and they wouldn’t give a rip.
There comes a time when a kid has to grow up. It’s a time when the kids start learning to take care of themselves and quit depending on their parents’ money for the things they “want.” Shortly after, especially when they start getting into college, it’s time for them to be pushed out of the nest. If they want to come back, fine, but they’ll be paying for it just like in the real world. It’s tough love. They need to learn how to fend for themselves and support themselves, because if they don’t, life will hit them hard.
If I spent 16 years pouring my love, my heart, my soul, my money, my world into a kid, buy him a car, and then he turns around and says “I don’t like this one,” well, hey. He’s my son, and I understand the desire to drive something you like and be proud of what you own. He’ll be more likely to take care of it that way anyway. I’d try to get him something he prefers, but if he turns around and publicly tells his friends “My dad keeps screwing me over with this car thing! I found a Mazda I like and it was only 2,000 dollars and he won’t get it for me, and I spent 8,000 dollars of his money on school so he should get me something nice that I like and he won’t!” Then I will sell the car and the money I spent on the first car will go to a bus pass, a bicycle, and his college fund, and that will be the end of it. I wouldn’t mind helping him out, but I sure as heck wouldn’t take the ungrateful attitude, because I didn’t have to spend 8,000 bucks on his college, and I didn’t have to spend more thousands on a car for him, just to turn around and take that crap from him. If he’s going to be so ungrateful, he can take the bus until he can buy his own car.
I’m 20 years old. Pretty much still a kid myself. You need to figure something out, “felix alexander.” If you respect your parents as much as you say, then why are you so content to mooch off them and not support yourself? Why would you turn around and tell them “I didn’t ask to be born YOUR kid, so take that into f-ing consideration?” What the heck kind of respect is that? Let me turn this around and spell this out for you.
Maybe you didn’t ask to be born their kid, but JUST because they’re your parents, and they love you, and they raised you, doesn’t mean you get to keep taking and taking from them. It doesn’t mean you get free income from them whenever you want it. It doesn’t mean they have to pay for whatever the heck takes your fancy. It doesn’t mean you get to continue to suck their resources down when you’re of age and able to earn your own resources. If they let you, it’s out of the goodness of their hearts, because they love you, or maybe because they’re a little soft for you and love you too much.
If my kid ever tells me “I didn’t ask to be born YOUR kid, so take that into consideration,” if he’s of age, it’d probably break my heart, but I will promptly pack his bags and let him go find whoever it is whose kid he WANTS to be. Felix Alexander, it’s time for you to grow up.
Okay, you clearly don’t understand what a respectful relationship is with a parent. Being too afraid to talk to them is not respecting, it’s fear. Respecting a parent means mutual respect; you can’t have respect without giving it in return, otherwise it is just fear.
This is not verbal abuse at all, this is a mother seeing her brat of a son publicly lying about her to his friends, so she retaliates. I agree that it is likely her fault he is so spoiled, but goddamn, he has no right to be acting like this at all. If you’re old enough to drive, you should be damn well old enough to start taking responsibility for your actions.
I found it quite reasonable when my parents asked me to pay rent. They’re quite well off already and have paid for a lot of things I’ve done, but they have always explained why they take the actions that they do. If I ever have kids I’ll maintain that open honesty, because I have turned out pretty well thanks to my mother and father’s awesome parenting.
Ah if only ending a stupid comment with God Bless were a way to validate it.
Sadly it is not. Perhaps the biological act of creating a child does not entitle me to make the rules for it. What DOES entitle me to make the rules for my children is that:
a) My age and experience gives me a knowledge and wisdom that they lack. A lot of my rules are because they don’t know enough on their own to realize that I’m enforcing behavior they should accept as second nature anyway.
b) I, currently, pay for all their expenses. As such they are bound by the rules of the household they live in. When they move out and have their own house, they are entitled make their own rules and expect me to abide by them when I visit or if I find myself living there.
c) A child that acts with respect deserves respect in turn, and deserves to have themselves heard if they have a grievance. By the same token, a child that acts disrespectfully will get disrespect; and if they can’t be respectful, then I don’t need to hear them out.
My reaction to being publicly slandered by my child would be to embarass them in front of their friends much as the mother did. I would follow this up with taking back the car I had so generously provided and instead give them a bus pass for all their transportation needs. I would expect to be paid for the bus pass, as well.
This.
And no, I am not yet a parent. I agree with you though.
I want to start out with saying that I agree with you.
HOWEVER.
The venom and spite you use in the previous paragraphs and the vicious tearing down renders that last line almost sarcastic, potentially (definitely in this case) offending certain religious people.
If you wish to represent His side without offending others in His flock, please be more constructively critical rather than spiteful.
No matter who the target, or how wronged you may feel.
felix – Maybe when you become an adult you’ll understand that having children pretty much gives you the right to set rules and institute measures to teach your child responsibility. Being a parent means teaching your children how the world works before they step out into it. If I charge my 19-year old rent because he doesn’t understand that a free car (and insurance and college education) is a gift, and you believe that is “verbally supressing and abusing” them, then you live in some sort of naive fairyland.
Strangley enough, my kids are not scared to look me in the eye and tell me they are disappointed with something. If the punk in the post above was my child, he would have the balls to tell me to my face before going online like a coward. I am not raising my kids to be cowards, hence my critism of the mom in this post. If my kids can’t confront me, how in the hell are they going to confront the world?
I willingly paid rent the last year and a half of living with my parents, once I found a mediocre part-time job (and later a better full-time one, which eventually got me out of there) while rents were sky-high. It was still much cheaper and not very inconvenient, plus it helped my mom out in a tight time. I don’t see what your huge aversion to asking someone to help pay their way once they start bringing in money is.
Are you the only one that didn’t read the comment you’re replying to. He *agreed* with her except for the “back in my day” bs
Actually, I am not agreeing with the mommy in the post above. She’s a flake and so is her son.
Agreed. Just because he behaves selfishly does not mean that his entire generation does and just because she (by her own account) wasn’t selfish does not mean that her entire generation wasn’t.
You just wish you had a “day” to call yours.
She lost me at the “back in my day” b.s. because SHE’S the parent and she has the control of the situation. Like how you were raised “back in the day”? Then raise your children the same way.
The solution is not that difficult.
I’m 24, purchased my own first vehicle, paid for my college education (and am still paying for it) and never even thought of asking my parents for help. The fed and clothed me for 18 years. The extras I wanted were my responsibility.
I feel no pity for any of the yahoos in this “fail”.
Should be “They fed and…” sorry
yep “back in my day” argument is bs
Agreed. And they are yahoos. I was given $10 a week, and I had to buy my own shampoo, toothpaste, etc. with it. Obviously, I didn’t have a lot of spending money. It was a good lesson, though. Once I had a job, I had to buy my own car. My parents weren’t even middle-class, though, so you know…
Sometimes I think growing up poor is a good thing. It makes you grateful when you do have the things you want. I don’t think this is a problem of a generation, but a problem of class. A lot of rich kids I went to school with got cars as gifts. If you have everything handed to you, of course you’re going to be ungrateful.
I completely agree with this.
I agree with this too, you learn to appreciate more when it’s a result of your own sweat and hard work. You come to expect it when you start to get spoiled. Anything worthwhile in life isn’t the easiest to get
I agree with ya, if they’re given everything, they never learn to appreciate it. Simple as that.
I totally agree. I was the oldest of 6 kids, with a mom who made $8 an hour and a dad that took off when I was 13. I started working at 15, and if I wasn’t working I was taking care of my siblings while my mom worked. I bought my own clothes, razors, etc, and I paid some of our bills. When we lost our house I got an apartment and took in my youngest siblings (my mom moved in to her boyfriend/husband’s apartment) until my mom could get a house.
I’ve worked my butt off to get where I am, working full time and going to school at night. Believe me, I’m 100 times better off than the friends I have that have been handed everything, or my younger siblings who treat my mom like an ATM now that she’s in a slightly better place. And I’m certainly a heck of a lot more respectful to my mom, because I remember what it was like to struggle for everything.
So true.
+1
What’s wrong with the back in my day? The new generations values change over time, some for good, and some for worse, and I see no reason why wanting someone to have a good quality from the previous generation is B.S.
This.
Because the person wanting it is supposed to be the one providing it. If they refuse to then it’s their own responsibility that it doesn’t come about. The mother could have raised the child to be appreciative, or she could have bought him a car and then sold it to by another when he didn’t like it. She’s in no position to complain about kids of today when the kid is her own.
U cant spell buy noooob!!
You can’t spell ‘you’ or use punctuation…..
Did…did you just attempt to troll YOURSELF, X????
o.O
Shouldn’t you do that in private somewhere? And wash your hands afterward?
You can’t entirely blame the mother for how spoiled the kid is. Sure, there is a ton of blame coming from her, but the kid still makes his own decisions in life. He talked about paying for school so I thought he was a college student at first but then his mom said something about getting a permit so maybe it’s just a private high school. Or maybe he’s totally spoiled and never bothered to get a permit.
Anyways, I kinda got off on a tangent there. Regardless of who is to blame, there is nothing wrong with wanting you’re children to be better in areas where you’ve failed as a parent. It seems like kids today go around blaming their parents for everything and then complain about it once their parents actually try to be a good parent. It’s a total self serving bias.
because they are seeing the issue through their own biased eyes, the problems of their youth are glossed over by time
they condemn the same behavior they had when they were kids
Why do trolls read this stuff? Oh wait, it’s because they gotta troll.
you could have just asked yourself
My thoughts exactly.
This has to be the largest number of replies in the history of the Cheezburger Network, and I decided I want to be the last to post in it. So… here’s another completely pointless post =D.
When was it that kids got so entitled? Well, I would guess the second that you bought them a Honda Accord and then agreed to sell it and get another one because it wasn’t “good enough”. If you let your kids get away with that crap then it is noones fault but yours if they are a bit “entitled”.
^This
oh yes. yes yes yes. Books will be written about the psychological paradox that is the spoiling parent not understanding why their child is spoiled. Oh ho ho ho ho YES.
*bowing to genius*
Thank god, I was starting to think that I was the only one feeling this way. Perhaps I’m just old fashioned (even more so than the mother, apparently), but if you spoil your child then it’s your own fault. You can’t start crying when they turn out precisely how you brought them up.
You, sir, have just won the internet.
*high fives*
High-fives are back? Awesome!
Yes! *high fives*
i agree.
They didn’t buy him the honda, it was his mom’s old car
My dad gave me his old truck (I paid him a dollar for it) and I’d say that’s about 95% spoiling. If it weren’t for the facts that the old truck had virtually no trade-in value and that giving me the old truck made his life easier because now I can drive myself home from college, then it would be 100% spoiling. I pay my own gas, insurance, rent and bills, and if I had asked my parents to sell the truck and buy me something else, or in any way indicated that I was less than ecstatic about the truck, they would’ve laughed in my face and never given me the keys.
The gift of a car, even your parents’ old one, is a massive thing and you should thank them profusely and be grateful and use it to run errands for them without complaint. My parents made that clear when they put the title in my name. This kid is a jerk and the parents should look in the mirror if they want to know why.
Yeah yeah, I know. I was just saying because Terrell is my friend
I bought my own truck with my life savings, got a really well taken care of ’96 Ford Ranger, and I love that truck to death. I’ve been raised to really appreciate everything I have, because I’ve never really been handed anything (besides the essentials, and christmas presents). It really ticks me off when kids decide they want something, ask their parents for it, and get it immediately. Because if I really want something and I don’t have the means to get it, it’s a whole year until christmas to find out if my parents will actually get it for me or not. So honestly I don’t take these things for granted, I’m currently a full time college student searching like crazy for a job, because I do feel guilty every time I crawl to my parents for gas money. My insurance is high because I’m a new driver, but I have good grades and being a full time student gets me a discount.
I’ve kinda gone on a rant now…anyway, the point is that I don’t take these things for granted and I am grateful for what I have earned. My friend Terrell is honestly a good guy, and once his fault was pointed out, he was extremely sorry for the way he acted. I was starting to get upset reading all the nasty things that people on here were assuming about him…I started feeling bad for posting this
*Katie awesome comment. I’m an old guy. Forced to work summers starting when I was 15 for pocket money. Dad bought a junker for me and my brother to get back and forth to our summer jobs. It was great! I loved it. We paid for gas, insurance, repairs et cetera but still thought it was too good for words. My problem with your friend and this whole thing is this: complaining is not bad, in and of itself, everyone does it; the problem here is doing it where mom could see it and get deeply hurt and offended. Communication and information technology is newish (I grew up in the ’60s). Even back then we had to learn when and where to complain because you had to make sure you knew who was listening. This all part of growing up. My heart goes out to both your friend and his mom. Mom got hurt bad. Maybe Terrell learned from this.
you say that as if it makes it better
Easy solution for the parent:
Sell the car.
Get yourself something nice, like a TV for your bedroom.
Buy the child a bus pass.
Explain to child that because they couldn’t be satisfied, you will no longer try to satisfy them.
Ignore complaints of being unfair.
Problem solved.
“Explain to child that because they couldn’t be satisfied, you will no longer try to satisfy them.”
… …. …. I’d save that one for your spouse, rather than your child.
SNAP!
CRACKLE!
POOP!
Well, s**t.
i c wut u did ther
I’m reminded of Linkara’s “Bimbo’s In Time” comic book review, where he mentions that the entire comic’s crappiness was summed up in one sound effect posted near halfway point of the comic: Poop.
POP!
Pop
Burrrrrn…
burn!
Well done Mom! hahaha
Stop.
Grammar time.
^ Thank you for putting into words what I could only think!
Win.
Epic mom burn!!!
I’d buy the little a G-Whiz AND force hime to drive it for at least as long as I was paying for his school. No G-Whiz, no school fees; simples
Mom needs two things: A vacation, and a spine. She should have learned to say “No” a long, long time ago.
And: NEVER humiliate your kid in public with private matters!
Then don’t talk crap about your parents in public
“Just like the rest of the internet!”
-Judith Griggs
LOL, but HONESTLY, Monica . . .
The kid was kinda acting like a self-entitled jerk here, Nahhh.
Oh yes. momma is a ( Y )
How about, never humiliate your parents in public with private matters??? shot in the dark here, but I’m gonna wager you don’t have children, or at least none that can talk.
When he made it public it ceased to be a private matter
The car was most likely purchased from a public company, or maybe it was a private relative. Who knows? These jokes are such a double-edge-sword for us, or in this case, a two-lane highway.
Cool story, bro.
The honda was his mom’s old car
ok, you’ve said this more than once, thanks for being a friend to the entitled little monster. Regardless of WHERE the car came from, the brat didn’t pay for it, if they wanted something else, than take it upon themselves to sell what they were given, use the $$$ to buy a new car, and if they don’t have enough, GET A JOB!
And not to Kaite, but in general, most kids I grew up with couldn’t drive if they couldn’t pay their own insurance, no matter whose car they were driving. Paying for your own stuff makes it much more valuable, and the kid tends to be a A LOT more careful after that they realise that the speeding ticket made the insurance go up…
Dude I’m just letting people know so they quit assuming things. He has been my friend for a long time, he really is a great guy. Once his faults were pointed out he was truly sorry for the way he was acting. He immediately started trying to make it up to his parents. Terrell is a really good person, and just as imperfect as any of us.
Regardless of Terrell’s personal qualities, he has made an enormous mistake – he brought his complaints into the public domain.
In this thread he has become, not the “great” Terrell you know, but a symbol of juvenile selfishness. Your weak attempt at making him sound less awful is simply way too little, way too late.
You don’t even know him, you ignoramus.
I know enough about him through his post to know he’s a spoiled jerk. One shouldn’t post idiotic rants to a public domain if they want people to know what a really good person they are.
If he apologized immediately afterward and is such a good person, then he shouldn’t have been b*tching about his parents behind their backs in the first place.
Actually, you don’t know enough about him to know what he is or isn’t. You know that he was ACTING like a spoiled jerk, but that does not mean he IS a spoiled jerk.
Furthermore, placing something on facebook does not place it in the public domain. Things placed on facebook can and sometimes are still protected by copyright law, but facebook is automatically granted rights for as long as the item is there.
As for if he should or shouldn’t be saying stuff like that – well, he’s human (I expect anyway). Can you honestly say you’ve never made a mistake in your life? Let he who is without sin cast the first stone. Or perhaps in this instance he who has sinned should block some of them instead.
I agree with the spine thing, but it’s the kid that souldn’t be bad talking his parents in public.
And he’s the kid here, god forbid the parent act like a parent and not exactly like a child, eh?
She’s right. Parents now a days spoil the f**k out of their kids by giving them sooo much they don’t need and really expensive too! If u don’t want a spoiled child, don’t spoil them. It’s sad that I’m right and tons of parents r mind numbingly retarded
Spoiled brat, I’ll be lucky to get my brother’s ass-old beater car with broken AC and door covers falling off.
Hey, I’m working to pay for my own car. This kid should get his head out of his rear and get a job, instead of complaining about his parents who did buy him a car which he turned his nose up at.
They’re both idiots.
Debate over.
*Citation needed* Pro tip: Blanket statements about unknown people need known citations.
what?
You seriously don’t get it???
no sorry
obv you don’t
tl;dr
thanks for sharing, next time have somehting useful to say. I’ll mean more.
next time, dont read it if u dont like it
Well, if her brat kid is going to try to make his parents look bad in public, I think she has every right to say whatever she wants.
I’m never having kids.
Sadly, only the smart ones say this. The stupid ones keep procreating and…well, natural selection can only do so much….
There is so much to say to this. My mom bought me my first car, but it was a junker just as every teenagers first car should be. After that, I was on my own if I wanted a new car. She paid the insurance and gas, but I didn’t waste my gas, I drove to school and back and on weekends to my friends. Or if she needed something in town, I would get it for her. I told her thank you constantly and never griped when asked to do something for her with my car. This kid is just a spoiled brat who has obviously never used the phrase “thank you”. I would have humiliated him too if he were my son. Not only that but I would tell him to get a job and pay for the car and everything that goes with it himself. Learn to be responsible as well as learning some respect.
too bad there’s no like button on here, or i would’ve liked this
Both wrong here:
- Mom for spoiling him in the first place
- Kid for being unbelievably selfish
However, Mom’s perfectly in the right for telling him off in public – the kid’s childish whining brought it on himself.
I don’t know whats wrong with some people. In my family, my parents gave me and my younger sisters both our first cars. My car was my dad’s old corolla, so when my sister was old enough to drive she got my grandma’s old buick. She gets all pissed off that I got a better car than her, she’s not grateful that she got a car for FREE (and my parents pay for most of her gas too.)
My parents gave me my first car… they said (when I was a junior in high school with so-so grades) that they would if I got into my first-choice college. They didn’t reckon on the impact that an all honors/AP curriculum, awesome SATs, and a kick-ass application essay would have on my chances.
They paid my insurance, too (on their policy) but I paid gas and registration.
They flat-out REFUSED to get me an old beater, though. It was used, but had to be reliable and checked out by our family’s mechanic. I had to do the actual shopping, too. I ended up with a Civic that I was just glad had four doors and cloth instead of vinyl seats!
My sister still drives around my grandmother’s old car. She’s 26, and can’t see the point in buying a newer car when the old one gets her from A to B.
Yeah, as long as a car isn’t dangerous or falling apart I don’t really care how old/cool it is. I couldn’t imagine getting a decent free car and then saying it’s not good enough, I’ll be lucky to ever get a free car.
I’d put it the same way my father did, so simple it’s unarguable… “When you are old enough to drive you’ll be old enough to buy your own car and pay your own insc.”
I lost all respect for her when she said “Back in my day.”
this
*grateful not greatful. That’s assuming that the mother thinks that the child should feel ‘gratified’ for for not having had to pay for the car, insurance or gas, rather than ‘full of greatness’.
*Grammar
Parents that buy cars for their kids make me sick, just because I’m jealous because I had to pay for my own car, as well as the gas and insurance until I hit college and I had to pay for that too. I finally told my parents that I couldn’t afford college plus car insurance.
Also, I don’t think kids whose parents by cars for them take care of their cars as well as kids who buy their own cars… but I really have no citation for that, that’s just from experience.
I think kids who are raised to understand how to take care of a car take better care of their cars than kids who are insulated from the whole process. We do the best we know how to do; part of that learning is modeling and teaching, part of it is experience. If we only have one or the other, we tend to learn more slowly and less completely.
So, if you go with your parents to the mechanic, and they show you the manual and what it says you need to do at this point and that point in the car’s life, and they explain that “tire rotation” is NOT something that happens in the normal course of driving and that oil starts out clear and isn’t meant to be burned… yadda yadda… then when it’s time to take your own car in for service, you know what to ask for, how to identify a decent mechanic, what you should be paying, etc.
If the car just mysteriously runs and runs and you never learn how to pump gas, much less how to get maintenance… well. Your car is probably going to run out of gas before it needs an oil change.
I like how she is arguing as if SHE is not responsible for raising her kid to be a brat. If she did her job right he wouldn’t be spoiled in the first place. Kids don’t get f**ked up from nothing.
Really. Who’s enabling whom here?
Mom needs to stop replying on Facebook and actually put her foot down. If the kid is being a selfish bastard, make him buy his own damn car. Teach him a lesson about money and responsibility.
Instead, she’s going to get him a new one and pay for all of it, which leaves the kid with what? Nothing but a comment on Facebook that he probably won’t even listen to.
I don’t give a rats @ss what my teenager says about me on the internet with his friends. I’m not stooping to that level. However, I doubt he would berate me like this as he is the silent type….and can’t type worth a hoot! LOL
Hell, i have had 3 cars and i am 23 i paid for all of them. i also have had a job since high school to pay for them. and i am paying off college while still in it doing and paying for my car. so kids need to quit complaining about mommy and daddy not buying them s**t.
cool story, bro
Ummm.. what’s the point of one person having 3 cars?
…in 6 years? that should have gone on to say.
What happened to the first two so fast?
Owned. That was beautiful.
My parents lent me money for my second car. But I paid them back very quickly and had to pay my own damn gas/petrol and insurance.
I bought my first car from my Dad. It wasn’t even mates rates, and it was a heap of junk (but damn I miss that car.)
Expecting your parents to buy you a car outright is incredibly entitled.
I’m really curious as to how his mother lost her job over him…
So… there weren’t any ungrateful and/or spoiled kids back in the good ol’ days? Yes if the mom is spot on about all that, the kid is ungrateful. Yes, the kid is probably ungrateful because he’s unhappy about something else that they haven’t worked out. No, this is not a thing that is unique to the terrible changes of the new generations.
danke
When the mom said she had to quit her job (I suppose the father also had a job) I assume they never spent much time with their child to teach him things like humility, respect, or patience. It’s equally the child’s blame as well as the parents for him becoming a spoiled brat.
This is what happens when parents try to be friends with their kids!
She still owned him in front of his friends though!
That’s kinda an odd thing to say, if you don’t mind my input. My mom’s one of my best friends, but as far as I can tell I’m not an ingrateful brat. I do see your point, I just wanted to make mine.
The second part of your comment there is very true though
TL:DR
And no one’s spotted the typo in the title? Geez guys.
I saw it. Wasn’t worth commenting on.
I saw it too. Just took me dog’s years to get past all the other comments.
For those of you keeping score at home: the plural of “bus” is “buses.”
It would have been AWESOME if the kid had grammar corrected the Mom’s post with a simple *grateful.
“AND having a kid is expensive – people should realize that before breeding. Too many parents have kids, then blame the kid for having to spend money. Kids need pocket money, they need to have food, they need some nice things, etc.”
Are you freaking kidding? They need some nice things?!?!?!?
This “kid” needs ONE THING: A job.
No, wait, two things: A job and a kick in the ass. What a loser. I hope he doesn’t get a car.
Note that his friends are buying their own cars… mom’s a fool if she believes his whining crap that nobody buys their own cars these days.
My kid is FOUR and she already knows she’s paying for college, any cars and insurance in the future, and her rent from the age of 18 or high school graduation, whichever comes last. Like we did (Generation X, not even that old, thank you very much). We tell her several times a week.
“Don’t underestimate the effort it takes to pay attention 7-8 hours”
LOL LOL Are you serious?
Jenny Z–YES!!!!!!
“What is wrong with youth today?”
His friends seem to be buying their own cars… seems like it’s a problem in his family. Mom, you can be inconsistent. It’s human. Admit you were wrong and take your money and make him buy his own car!
While I believe kids should pay their own way… really? You tell a four year old many times a week that she’s paying for her own COLLEGE? Is there, um, any context for this or do you just randomly remark “hey [insert kid's name here], you’re totally paying for your own college!”?
My four year old niece hasn’t quite grasped what college even is yet.
Nothing wrong with getting college and/or rent money from your parents if they can afford it and you can focus on getting your future together because of it, as long as you invest your energy (which would have otherwise been spent on procuring finances) in your studies, excelling at a hobby or sport or something of that nature. Also, be thankful and appreciative of what has been given to you as you are simply lucky to be in such a position. This kid is neither thankful nor appreciative, so I wholeheartedly agree he should finance his motor vehicle his own d*mn self!
BTW: If you, dear ma’am, have burdened your four year old with the knowledge that you have claimed to have bestowed upon him/her, then I find that very distasteful indeed. Kids that age shouldn’t yet know about life’s harsh realities, let them be kids for crying out loud! I truly hope you were only trying to make a point. Sincerely yours, a random stranger who has, admittedly, butting-in issues..
No, are YOU freaking kidding me? YES they need some nice things because they don’t have it easy either, and NO, not every kid can have a job or can even afford the time to have one. I sure as hell couldn’t – and my father was good enough to realise that studies come first to give us a fair chance at the future. In the US, school is a lot easier – teenagers have time to take a job, in most of Europe, that’s just not possible. The work load after school (which ends at 4.30 in most places I believe) is a lot higher as well and homework and studying take up most of the rest of the time. Weekends have piles of homework too and I used to spend most of my Sunday getting everything done.
Plus, you’re one big head case if you burden your 4 year old with such things. A BIG head case – she has other things to worry about than having to pay, for example having a nutty mother.
Try most schools in east asia on for size. We started at 7:00 am and ended at 5:00 from primary school straight up to high school.
That’s near the bottom end of the range btw.
I knew a little girl, about 9, who studied from 7:00 am to 11:00 pm most weekdays fitting in cram school after regular school and then tutoring after that.
I do most heartily agree that burdening a FOUR YEAR OLD (srsly, wtf?) with college woes is utter bollocks.
Maybe school was a breeze for you, but it’s very hard for some people. I really hope it’s a breeze for your daughter too, because you’re clearly not going to be any help if it isn’t.
Yes, this Terrell guy is clearly spoiled, but “You’re on your own the second you turn 18 or graduate” is a pretty lousy thing to tell a child.
School a breeze? Why yes, it was, but I was laughing because if you think the 7 – 8 hours of concentration ends after school, you’re hilarious. After that comes WORK–hard work.
And nobody in my family can get out of the house fast enough. That’s because we were raised to scorn freeloaders–not people who can’t, of course, but those who won’t. I can’t think of a single person among my cousins, aunts, uncles, and even nieces and nephews that was not able to pay rent at 18, and pay car insurance.
And if you’re really hard up… there’s always the infantry or the Church.
How’s that for motivation to get off your ass and do something?
“because you’re clearly not going to be any help if it isn’t.”
I don’t think HELP consists of enabling a lazy person. Help = offering counseling, paying for tutors, offering to move home so the child can attend a better school more adapted to her needs, even…
wait for it…
BUYING THE KID A BUS PASS.
Which is how some of us got to work when we didn’t want to pay for car insurance. OMGZ, see how that works?
Don’t worry, my kids aren’t to precious to ride the bus or the metro. We’ve been known to raise tough kids in my family. We have to: we’re working class and somebody has to pay taxes to subsidize Terrell’s lifestyle (’cause it looks like his own parents are going to be getting the dependent deduction for some time now).
Wow… I’m glad you’re not my mom.
Mama obv didn’t get secondary education.
I’m glad you live in an area with public transportation. You’re really lucky.
I don’t mind that my tax dollars are going towards supporting your children in public school.
Here’s the thing though — my parents didn’t have to resort to threats about kicking me out at age 18 to “motivate” me to better myself and work hard. To me that smacks of poor parenting. My parents gave me a lot in life, but they were (are!) great parents in that they know that the message & lesson is more important than the stuff.
So if you have to tell a 4 year old several times a week that she will be on her own, financially, once she hits 18, in order to get your message across that one needs to work hard in life, that’s not effective parenting.
pwnage
LOL RIDING THE BUS MAKES YOU TOUGH LOLWUT.
Sorry, had to laugh a bit there. Oh wait, jk, a lot. My mom was only able to pay for college through the DRS due to a visual disability, and my father had a scholarship. They are both visually impaired so we have ridden the bus EVERYWHERE since… well, since forever. Yes, I am sure driving a car is nice but it doesn’t mean taking the bus makes you tough. Even is you were saying the “precious” wording in sarcasm, it failed to advocate your point. I don’t think anyone should be scorned, even “Freeloaders”. Money doesn’t equate to happiness and on occasion lethargy and lack of motivation can be due to emotional stress. Their responsibilities will catch up with them eventually but even then they shouldn’t be laughed at for getting just desserts. Goodness, so much for everyone’s equal. Excuse me while I anger face. Not to mention, how can the kid pay rent if they don’t have a job first? What happens if the economy goes into the bucket when the girl graduates, and she loses her job and no one will hire a girl who just came out of high school? You kick her out? What then? How much have you thought this through?
Although I can agree that kids should work for their keep (in my house, the only thing I don’t do is pay the rent), there are labor laws now that weren’t around in my mom’s day, so it’s not like a four-year-old (or anyone until 16) can actually work for their keep unless you’re talking about chores, but it doesn’t sound like you are.
It really bugs me when people whine about kids not having jobs. Even if it was legal, working 8 hours a day with 6 hours of school and 6 more hours of homework, an hour for dinner and an hour and a half for doing laundry wouldn’t let me sleep OR do all my chores.
*grateful
No, the “back in my day” argument is not BS. What matters are the individuals involved in relating the argument, not the general society.
“Back in my day” meant a cell phone with 300 minutes, no or limited texting functionality, and on the internet there was nothing but Geocities filled websites with black backgrounds and stars with nonsensical .gif animations on Netscape Navigator. Things are much different now.
I was content as a child to have a few Ninja Turtle action figures, and that large red rubber T-Rex from the Jurassic Park Kenner toys series.
My niece is content with nothing less than a netbook in her backpack, a cellphone with double touch screens, and always complaining about what she doesn’t have.
I was one of very few kids who didn’t have his parents buy them a car at my school. I worked for months with my dad before a Jeep Cherokee that he bought for himself he gave to me (one with nearly 200K miles on it, only a few years younger than myself). I was grateful for it.
Since 18 my parents have paid for nothing. I do everything. Yet many classmates from my generation (I’m 27 now) still live at home. Still have cars partly financed by parents. Still are going to school on their parents dime after 3 failed majors.
It’s really a kind of self pitying gesture to even suggest kids don’t demand more and expect less of themselves than the previous generation. It wasn’t that way that long ago. There was a time when parents actually saw much more potential in their children than in themselves. Now, thanks to social networking, something I refuse to partake in as a one man boycott, too many kids these days are an instant gratification culture, selfish to the extreme, and only exposed to the internet world rather than the real world.
Not too long, if you didn’t read you’re a lazy bastard. And no, commenting online to a post is not social networking. I don’t know who you are, nor do I care.
And you had to walk 10 miles to school barefoot in the snow uphill both ways, right?
You weren’t spoilt but you know people who were. The same applies to everyone who wasn’t spoilt who’s ever met other people. How and why does that mean that the ‘back in my day…’ argument is valid? Kids have always been spoilt, it’s nothing new and won’t be going away for a very long time. Anyone who seriously believes that kids were all hard working sophisticated folks before the late 20th century is simply kidding themselves.
You’re saying your friends and teachers spoiled you? Bought you loads of stuff, just because you begged till it got annoying? Or even without you asking at all? Sure, school is a huge influence on a kid growing up, but in my personal experience, only family turns you spoiled!
No. Missed the point entirely. When people say kids are rotten, so they must have rotten parents, that’s not always the case. My parents were great. If you were to judge them based on my sister though, you would think they were horrible. Your friends and teachers don’t have to give you things in order to make you a conceited, spoiled, expectant kid, you just have to develop the personality that covets everything your friends have that you don’t, along with a demanding attitude.
no, your generation griped just as much, but to you the gripes were legit
now that you are past your youth you have forgotten what horrible c*nts you were as kids and think it’s all started with the next generation
get your head out of your hindquarters
Um… No. I wasn’t a bad kid. I may have had difficult moments, but my parents have both told me I never had a rebellious streak. I had nothing to rebel against, and I realized that.
If your sole purpose for trying to contradict everyone and everything is based on your experience of being a rotten kid, well, I guess you were just a rotten kid then. Don’t try to drag everyone else to your level.
Nope, I didn’t rebel either. However, me personally not rebelling does not mean that my generation was perfect. You’re delusional if you think that your generation was any better than the ones before or after it.
Does it seem to you that people have a loss of sense of direction, a loss of motivation and of self esteem? That seems most common, because even though I’m 19, at my community college everyone seems to be that way. People tell us “It takes time to get things together, to figure things out” and they’re nice and patient. If I don’t do well this semester my father told me he won’t pay for the next semester, which I found reasonable. I understood his reasoning perfectly, but it still makes me feel sad when I look around at the other kids at my college who are stressed constantly yet lethargic and sad, and are failing. When you fail, there is no one to say “Keep trying” and you lose faith in yourself. It seems even though we are spoiled materially today, that it obviously doesn’t make up for lack of emotional support and maybe that is what is hindering our sad, lost generation. It makes sense to me… I see shells who smile and laugh about pointless things but fail and are good hearted about it somehow. Our generation is proof that money can NOT buy happiness. (Sorry it’s been on my mind for a while, and really has been getting me down)
You’re not alone my friend, the same subject you explained has been going through my mine for the past few weeks and I’m seeing the same view you are.
I am also going to a community college and notice the same downward spiral these “kids” are falling towards. Yet I notice people try to put up fronts as if everything was were to be alright, which I highly believe that religion is part of the growing up process, the fact that you must find it in yourself to keep pushing, yet no one but yourself is telling you that.
And in this day and age, with social media and cable networks, it’s looked at as being “stupid”, that we “must” tweet and fb message someone in order to stay connected. Idk but this whole moral/upbringing process is tough for all generations and what exactly are parents trying to achieve other than a normal, sane child?
I totally agree with mom. I am impressed at her blow up. I worked for my cars…school…etc. If your parents help you out, you are fortunate.
There are reasons animals eat their young. This would be one. Or two or 20. Yup.
I am currently stuck trying to get a car, and my parents will help me look and maybe loan me a few hundred £ but I wont get it free. My brother usually gets the help.
I think parents who have selfish kids should kick them out as soon as they leave school. Let them see how hard it is alone.
Grateful*
I think that kid needs to pay for (at least some of) it himself, he is totally undeserving of parents like that!
I’m a bit spoiled myself, and I admit that, but I’m nowhere near this guy! My parents are going to pay for it when I eventually come round to getting a driver’s license, but that’s only because we had a deal that I wouldn’t smoke or drink before I turned 18. I will most likely have to buy my own car, and I would rather work my ass of for it than get it from my parents, because they have done way more than enough for me already.
Most of my friends who have driver’s licenses paid for it themselves, and either bought their own cars, or use their parents’ car, but pay for gas etc. out of their own pocket.
wow, you made me feel bad about myself, I started to drink and smoke when I was 13 (I smoked once but I didn’t like it, it tastes like crap), when I was 17 I wrecked my mom’s a4, when I was 18 my dad bought me a Jetta (like a Jetta TDI), I’m 22 and he is going to buy me a Passat now, if you thought I’m spoiled… my sister’s first car was a malibu, the my dad bought her a class c, she got a mercedes! when I asked him why I couldn’t get a cool car like her, he told me something like “I have to give her more because she is a girl and I don’t want her to need anything, specially from guys”, can you believe that!? she moved to canada and now she is getting an acura or something.
Btw, yo can totally drink, just make sure you eat before, during and after you drink, drink alcohol with respect (it’s not water) and you should be okay, also, if you know you’re going to get drunk don’t take your car with you, don’t drink something cheap (it’s your liver!), as I told you, I started to drink when I was 13, do you think I asked my parents if I was allowed to drink? hell no, they didn’t found out untill my friends brought me home totally unconscious and I started to scream, I was 17. Now that I’m 22 I can assure you that you get totally bored from it, I haven’t drink anything in 2 months and I don’t feel like having a drink at all.
Am I seriously the only one that saw this and immediately said:
“tl;dr.”
What has the world come to… :p
The kid is a whiny sack of crap who will spend his life complaining and blaming others for his well earned failures. She needs to let him ride his bike until he turns 18 and then kick his ass to the curb until he learns to be grateful for the roof above his head and the food in his belly. Teenagers are just homeless people that you allow to live in your home. He will have a hard lesson to learn when mommy and daddy don’t provide for him anymore.
I think the parent needs to look at need vs. want. Things change – making the “back in my day” argument both relevant and irrelevant at the same time. Back in my father’s day you didn’t need a car or a degree to get somewhere in the world. Today you don’t need a car but to get somewhere is helped very much by a degree to the point where it is now considered a need. I hope I can start an account to help my child/ren with their first degree (no more) but I have no intention of buying them a car and paying for all that comes with it.
Generations are a hard thing to divide – remember who raised them but let’s not forgot that we all have to take responsibilty for our choices and actions at some point. It stops being the parents’ fault to become the person’s fault.
Everybody, these balls aren’t going to suck themselves…come on chop chop
Should the kid have attacked his parents on Facebook? No. But, should Mom have validated it with a response? No.
Seems to me like the kid complains because Mom validates it with reactions. If Mom isn’t paying attention to how bad he feels he has it, what’s the best way to get her to notice? Criticize her on Facebook.
Immaturity breeds immaturity. Buying things for a child while pampering them their entire lives doesn’t mean you’re giving them a good life. In some ways, it’s rather the opposite. Sad to say that children like this may find themselves desperately clinging to the pampering for most of their lives, which would postpone or negate any chance of learning true independence.
Money…it’s what makes the world and families go ’round…
Like I said before, she’s at the very least partly to blame – spoiled kids ONLY become spoiled if you spoil them throughout the years, it’s that simple. In a family, it’s no coincidence that, when one kid is spoiled, the others nearly always are, as well. It’s because it’s natural behaviour – you set the “bar” and if you then go under that bar, the bar the kids are used to, they’ll complain.
I grew up with a father who pushed me hard in school – I had little free time besides homework, studying and making dinner and doing dishes (yes I had to do that too) and until I was 16, I got no allowance. I couldn’t afford anything except what I was given and looking back, it does annoy me because I never had a chance to go out and make friends outside of school. I couldn’t even afford going to see a movie or going to a café so there’s two sides to this – as a parent, I think you need to motivate but also reward your kids. You’re still a parent, you decided on having the kid, so you carry the responsibility of turning him or her into a well educated grown up with as few issues as possible.
tl dr
May I suggest the mother and father teach their selfish brat a lesson by investing that money in someone who will truly appreciate the value of a dollar? I have gas, car insurance and school loans to be paid and I would even write a very nice thank you note. Hell, I would call you on the weekend and inquire about your health. I bet junior won’t call once he has his own apartment…providing he ever leaves.
If this “kid” is having to pay for school…granted with mom & dad’s money…doesn’t that make them over 18? Why are they pissin’ and moanin’ about how mean their parents are? There’s plenty of part-time jobs available…and there’s “work-study” for college kids. I’m with Mom on this one (although I’m not sure the “when I was a kid…” stuff was necessary).
Is would have been a plus if the kid was like tldr
Man, that kid’s obnoxious.
I admit I get off fairly well. My parents are paying for my first car, gas, insurance, etc., and paid for the repairs when the fuel pump blew–and this is all with the knowledge that I can’t get a job at all, not from lack of effort, but because someone has to watch my younger siblings while Mom works–aka me.
So in essence, I feel extraordinarily guilty 95% of the time because my parents shuffle so much money into making sure I have things I need and I can’t pay them back. I don’t like asking for money for anything else when I can avoid it unless I do some extra work and earn it.
Not everyone in my generation is terrible, but man, some of them (like this one) could use some humility, too. :T
Technically, considering daycare on average now costs as much as a college education, they actually kind of owe YOU money.
Wow. I’m 14 and I feel the same way. I still feel guilty because I got a 1080p TV for my birthday. Sure it was a $200 knockoff brand, but it’s still an HDTV.
If my parents bought me a car I probably wouldn’t be able to take the guilt. Terrell is really a self-entitled brat.
Why do you spend 95% of your time feeling guilty? Your parents are providing these things for you. You are accepting them. Are you beating your parents to get the money? No? Then don’t feel guilty.
Heh.. in this economy… he’s lucky his parents are even considering getting him a car. Go mom!
haha, this kid got totally owned by his mom. I agree with her 100%. And if you agree with the kid then you are or were way too spoiled yourself.
^This
If it wasn’t for the fact I’m not even willing to read past the first 20-30 replies I see, I would copy this whole thing to put it up as it’s own fail. A joke site puts up a pave about a funny post on facebook and gets hundreds of replies arguing over how spoiled/wrong/whatever individual people are. Forget who is to blame, which generations need a reality check, and all the rest of it – ALL of us (yes, me too) really ought to look for what in the world is wrong with us that we’d bother with this conversation in such a place as this.
“if my bike had a motor…”
You mean like a motorcycle?
nope, a bike with a motor
it is a different thing
My first car was a buick park avenue. It was my mom’s used car. Did I want to try an “old person’s” vehicle? No. But it was a car. Besides that, I could fit 8 people into it if I had to, I could control the exact temperature, and the speakers were very nice. Lots of kids where I lived would shell out 1 to 2 grand on fixing up the stereos in their s**tty jeeps. Their s**tty, flimsy, gas guzzling jeeps. don’t get me wrong, my buick wasn’t much better on miles per gallon, but I definitely got the better deal in the long run.
Oh, AND IT WAS A FREE CAR! All I had to do was pay for gas!
I’m one of the olds and I hate to tell the mom, but there were spoiled brats “back in my day” and in everyone’s day. In any event, I’d bet money that the car will be wrecked within six months of receiving it. There will be lecturing. And then a new one will be bought.
Remember, only YOU can prevent narcissism.
“I’m one of the olds and I hate to tell the mom, but there were spoiled brats “back in my day” and in everyone’s day. ”
thank you
tl;dr
Cool and all… But if she’s buying him a car when he doesn’t even have a permit, she can’t exactly complain about him not being responsible enough to buy his own car. If she’s spoiling him that much, it’s not exactly his fault he doesn’t have incentive to get a job…
Oh, and I’m a teenager who will have to buy her own car, pay for her own gas, etc when the time comes.
I wish my parents had the money to give me a car when I was 15/16/17 (however old this kid is that he doesn’t have his permit yet), but they didn’t and I was completely fine with it. I’m 19 and I still don’t have my own car (mainly due to being unable to get a job… stupid economy). I am just grateful that my parents are still providing for me (home, food, etc) while I go to college.
Yes, the “back in my day” was probably unnecessary, but the kid is definitely acting like a spoiled brat.
OWNED
i agree w/the mom as well as w/others who commented that she (they) may have created the selfish little brat… i have 3 kids one who is a happy healthy well educated adult, nothing was given to her…and she is proud she was able to do it on her own (just like nothing was handed to me – my mom was widowed at a young age – she couldn’t afford it) and i am raising my younger 2 the same way – my middle one just turned 15 – we were looking at learner’s permit – she gave me $ she got from her w/e job towards the fees…lessons learned =) she also understands the value of a dollar… parents need to get a grip and not complain when they have given into their kids all their lives and expect something different when they reach near adulthood…garbage in-garbage out
Anybody notice how it goes from “me and your dad” to “it cost your mom her job”……………
Even though it’s labeled as mom? I call fake……
I had to steal my first car.
I thought insurance was for the car, not the person… so shouldn’t it not matter who drives?
No.
Insurance is “for the car” in a sense, but cars don’t drive themselves. Therefore, rates (and indeed approval itself) are based on the driver, just as much as they’re based on the type of car.
If you have a record of accidents, moving violations, and in some cases even if you simply have a low credit score, you will pay a higher premium because you are considered to be a higher risk. Experience and wisdom are felt to come with age and practice, so a young (teenage, early 20s) driver will pay more than a “mature” driver (mid 20s and up).
Most insurance policies will cover “incidental drivers” – you let your friend borrow your car for the weekend, the designated driver takes you home, your relative’s car is in the shop for a few days so they use yours – but the general rule is that if a person drives the car on a consistent basis (for instance, more than twice a week, or every weekend), then they are required to be on the policy. And, generally, anyone under the age of 21 MUST be listed on the policy to be covered at all.
1) there is such a thing as non owner insurance, making owning the car at the time of insurance un-true.
2) his mother spelled because “cuz” thus rendering the entire rest of her argument invalid. set a better example for your child and his grammar.
This is why my dad used to literally kick me out of the house when I made crazy demands as a kid. Having to sleep on the front porch suddenly makes you a lot more appreciative. He still bought me a car when i graduated from college though. I just pay for gas and insurance. Thanks Dad
he literally kicked you until you were out of the house?
I dont know whats worse, Terrell and his entitlement or the numerous assclowns in this thread who tl;dr anything longer than a tweet. You all make me sick. The congenitally wealthy are often the worst people in the world. This failbook post is the same principle on a smaller scale.
tl;dr
Sorry, couldn’t resist. You actually have a point.
PREEEEEACH
tldr
*buses.
Just sayin.
Well, its all very well for mom to complain now – she raised the kid, and kids don’t just go randomly spoiling themselves do they? To some extent kids tend to react and behave within the bounds set by their parents and the treatment they receive from them.
What a nasty whiny entitled little brat though. Well done to his mom for finally slapping him down. Hopefully his whiny brat routine on FB will do him out of a nice new car for being an ungrateful little turd.
My parents were pretty generous to me, and didn’t charge me any rent or anything while I lived with them – which I did until I was 22 – and even more super-parently of them they put me through college and paid all my tuition, because they saw a good education as an important life-thing, but they sure didn’t go paying for nice ‘extras’ like smart cars. I bought my own crapmobile with my own wages, and found it pretty satisfying.
Wow. No wonder her son is stupid – if Mom can’t even spell!
owned.
You know those kids on that reality show about having their sweet sixteens? Spoiled brats. Whiny, stupid, rotten brats. This kid’s parents clearly cared enough to feed his whims(which is their mistake), but hearing this from him was just too much. I say kick him out of the house and see if he’ll still be any less grateful than he already was.
seeing kids like this make me more and more ashamed about my generation.
Wow… that kid is definitely a top nominee for the “Douchebag of the decade” award.
Really? Of the WHOLE DECADE? For a Facebook post. I suggest reading some news in order to get some perspective.
S**t, I had to steal my first car.
Well if Mom had made her son go without long before he got old enough to drive – this whole post would have never happened. Mom wouldn’t have to mend any broken bones and the kid would either have his own car cause he worked hard to get it himself, or he’d be riding his “fricken” bike with no complaints! It’s up to the parents to give our children coping skills long before they get old enough to drive.
can somebody tell me if it’s funny to much text for me
Mom wins. I don’t blame her.
By the way, the grammar Nazis are missing the point.
Mom needs to learn the reasons behind TL;DR.
Failbook has become more of an argument blog than anything. Lol
I agree. I’m never posting a fail again -__-”
Can’t really say much on the content of the fail, but I’m amused by the hard-luck-life contest in the comments. Glad to know that apparently every commenter here had to sell their own organs for pocket change as they walked up the hill both ways in the snow every day in order to scrounge food or some such nonsense.
Really, I’m the only person who got a car from my parents? They paid for insurance too. And I had a college savings account. Never paid rent or anything like that. Somehow I turned out ok, go figure.
I think the point of the fail is that the OP was whining and generally being VERY picky about something that was being given to them, something that is worth a LOT of money. Be grateful that your parents were able to provide all of those things for you.
I am grateful that my parents were able to afford things and provide for me. I don’t see what would make you think I’m ungrateful.
I get what the fail is about. I’ve also read the comments made by the friend who submitted the fail in which she says that Terrell isn’t really that bad a guy and that there is only one bus line in their area.
My point was in regards to the mass of commenters who are apparently in competition with 1800′s British street urchins as to who has the more hard luck life. Because apparently one must show off his or her qualifications and prove that s/he could never be considered spoiled in order to leave a comment.
yeah, it’s funny because it’s going on right below this particular post too
for real
That spoiled brat doesn’t deserve parents, that are willing to put up with his crap and put so much hard work and funds in him. There are kids that are in abusive homes, or have no home at all and would be a thousand times more grateful for a little kindness thrown their way, than this douchebag will ever be for all that he has been given. If he was my kid I would disown him.
Agreed. My parents didn’t have a lot, and I earned all my own money for stuff beyond food/school supplies/basic clothes since I was 13. But I have to say, the parent let the behavior get that far…
waaaaaaah
Hondas do not have high insurance rates. I know, I own one and my insurance is a good bit cheaper than other people I know.
lol I can’t believe the number of comments this is still getting. You people do know this is failbook AKA failblog right?
Oh, and just for the record people BUSES AREN’T AVAILABLE EVERYWHERE!
As for my personal. I’m 22, have no car or license still due to vision problems, and at that age I wasn’t able to attempt to get a job due to lack of transportation out in the middle of nowhere. Have fun attacking that if you want.
Oh, and Terrell, sorry one moment of selfishness & one mistake is getting you attacked by the whole internet. Just saying.
Terrell and I live in a very small town, I think there is one bus service, but I don’t even know where it is. There are very few jobs available…I’ve been applying to everywhere I can find for a year now…still no job.
*hugs*
I sympathize on the job front, dear – and I’m a decade older than you!
And as for all this – it’s normal…just plug your ears until the trolls’ mating frenzy is over. ^_^
Thank you for pointing out the poor public transportation system in the U.S.
I’m seriously jealous of all the people talking about getting bus passes, etc. Must be nice living in an area with decent public transportation. A lot of us don’t have that luxury.
eggzackly
There’s an alright transit system when I live, but it costs over 100 a month to use it. So just because there’s good public transport doesn’t mean everyone can use it anyway.
‘Whatever happened to saying “thanks mom and dad, for not getting arrested for child neglect for failing to feed, clothe, or shelter me! I know that was a totally unselfish and unnecessary act on your part! Not like you would have gotten in serious legal trouble otherwise or anything!”?’
I have to agree with you to some extent, to be honest.
No parent deserves a medal for doing the basics for their child (feeding, clothing, sheltering, educating) for the base 18 years of the child’s life. If they DO want a medal for it, Serious. Issues.
There should be an “allow debates” option for submitters. (Just see most of the comments on this page.
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I love your mom.
Example 1: Why you don’t add your parents/accept their friend requests on Facebook. It takes away your ability to complain about them, assuming they can actually figure out how to use it.
Exactly why I don’t have a facebook and why I come to this site to laugh at the people who do.
You see, i’m probably around this kids age, only child etc etc. My dad made me work for every penny i’ve earnt, i’m currently working 2 jobs, plus uni and somewhat of a social life JUST for rent/bills/car/insurance/gas. To be honest its a killer and i’m burning myself out at 16 (Yes, I graduated High School at 15, bumped up 2 grades in total).
It’s okay to give your kids an allowance, but never fully separate yourselves from your child. I was and now i’m paying for it dearly, I can barely afford anything and am losing friends because I work a total of 6 days a week, only have $12 left after bills and can never do anything.
Try that on for size.
bully for you
TL;DR
Why Don’t He just get a Job and pay for his own stuff. He sounds selfish if you ask me.
This is exactly why people shouldn’t friend their parents on FB, in fact, parents shouldn’t be allowed on FB period (and no I’m not a teen, I’m a full grown adult).
Yes. Since my parents figured out how to use facebook, I will never make myself a facebook.
Great, except…
*buses
Terrell’s definitely being a spoiled brat, but the mom doesn’t seem particularly great either. It’s possible to get stuff for your kids and teach them to be grateful. If they’re not, then obviously you as parents have not done a proper job of raising them.
What a spoiled brat. Most kids don’t get cars until they GRADUATE from high school. This one is just now starting and he’s crying because he’s not getting the car he wants.
maybe where you live, but most of the people i knew got a car at 16
Most of the people you knew were spoiled brats, then. And I lived in DC so that’s saying something.
has anyone thought that there should be a collection of this sites chat fails and wins?
she is so right, but does she have to write this on facebook? haha
Nice monolog.
THEY’RE BLACK!
OK i have this convo with my mom alot. but any parent who can say that they NEVER bothered their parent about getting a car is LYING!
I never did. I don’t have money and I don’t own a car. And I don’t lie. A car is not a necessity, at least where I live so I would never ask for a car to him. I wouldn’t even concider thinking he should buy me one. Thats would be rude.
Dear “Mom”: While you’re mending your broken bones and cleaning up the tire tracks, how ’bout you work on your parenting skills? Cuz guess who created your little monster?!
I get so sick of these parents complaining about “kids these days” feeling entitled. Your bed, etc.
Parents need to learn from the animal kingdom. When bear cubs get old enough to be able to fend for themselves, the parent bear chases them up a tree, then leaves them there. From then-on, they are on their own.
Or, like my dad said to me: GTFO.
Suddenly having to fend for one’s self really does wonders for a human being.
TLDR
TL;DR
Mom WIN!!!!!!
You win at life, thank you
perhaps they should have made him work for things in the beginning (school and the Accord), and he wouldn’t expect to get things for free later in life…
go mum if hes old anoth to drive he should pay rent
mom ftw
MOM FTW! yeaaaH!
kids a pus*y
@ OP tl:dr