I AMMM a mother like that! and have been LONG before FB… and yes, I am in my 50′s and make a POINT of keeping up w/technology and DO have kids in college and out that would agree w/ me that it was a good thing to have a mom aware of your crap!
Thank you Heather! Love it. I’m 51 and have been on the internet since most of the children here were in diapers, my kids are on FB (Facebook) and my dad is also. The answer isn’t ‘parents shouldn’t be on FB’, the answer is, don’t be a douchebag.
Privacy controls: A Good Thing.
What part of this says he’s in college? He could be just another 16 year old lush, and in that case, she has a legal right to intervene on behalf of her son and his illicit behavior. The problem is… well, drinking goes on at any school; it’s better to teach him how to behave properly than it is to keep him locked up and inexperienced.
no, not nicely said, or wisely said. drinking alcohol is not the same thing as playing in the street, and the implied parallel is invalid. most responsible adults drink alcohol responsibly, because they have been taught, or have otherwise learned how to manage its use. very few responsible adults play in traffic. a better parallel would be to say “he’s going to cross the street anways, so might as well teach him to do it without being hit by a car”
Also not forgetting to mention that he left himself logged into Facebook from her computer, so she may not have even had to open a new page to see the comment about the rum. In which case she would not have to have used his Facebook. Also judging from her reaction to said rum it would be a rather safe bet that he is underage which is also self incrimination since he is admitting to at least drinking it or having possession of the bottle.
Uh, I know parents that punish their 22-year-olds for drinking. Whether at home or out. By the sound of ‘new school you are going to’ sounds like she is forcibly transferring colleges.
Also, she would have talked to him and not put that. Nothing adds up.
Where does it say that he is in college, the way I read it he is in high school. And obviously he is living in her house still she has every right to look at his page. You better believe I will be looking and my kids internet history when they get older.
Sorry to say, but that would make you a freak mom IMO. I am only 16, and I can savely say that I’m happy that I don’t have a mom who controls me like this… She doesn’t give a fuck about what I do, as long it’s legal.
Not being controlling and not caring what you do are two extremely different things. I’d rather have a parent who looks at my history (even though I hated it when my parents did that to me) than have parents who don’t care what I do “as long as it’s legal.” There’s tons of stuff that is not good for a 16 year old to do that’s still legal.
Oh, and this kid was clearly doing something illegal. I’d hope your mom would say something to you if she found incriminating photos of you being drunk.
Anyone under 18 shouldn’t even BE on the internet. There ought to be laws to keep kids off of it because of all the perverts and murderers.
Until we have the sense to keep kids of the internet, parents have EVERY SINGLE RIGHT to keep track of EVERYTHING their kids do on the net. Sorry, but the only freaks are parents who don’t police every little site kids go to and people they talk to.
Paranoid much?
If you police your children they will grow up to resent you when they’re neck deep in trouble, and they’re scared to call their parents because they think they will be more angry than worried.
If you raise them right they will know that what you did was just to better their lives, if they know that you always have their best interest in mind then you will be the first one they call in times of need. Parents who don’t know what their kids are doing yield kids who end up becoming violent criminals.
If your parents cared they wouldn’t go around patrolling everything you do. If they know that you skulk around what they do, forcing yourself into everything they do, they will be afraid of their parents. I know lots of kids whose parents are like this and THEY are the criminals of the school. They hate their parents so much that they are doing everything they can to get out.
And yet you say that kids will be fine with you controlling every aspect of their lives ‘as long as they know it is for their better good’. I have NEVER heard or seen any kids that behaved good because the parents did this. Only the parents that do this to their kids say that it helps. It sounds more like they want kids around just to do housework and other things for them, then act like a money supply when they get jobs later.
If you want them to grow up good, teach them the difference between right and wrong, and give them room to make mistakes to learn. Don’t patrol and control them to the point that they only know that everything they do will be scrutinized, scaring them off from doing anything later on.
Considering parents can go to jail or be fined for what their children do, I sure hope to God all parents “police” their children!!! If my 16 year old gets drunk and does something idiotic and I have to pay the price, you bet your @ss my kid will be under house arrest until they are old enough to take the fall for themselves!
Listen, teens who want so much freedom from their parents, “Freedom isn’t Free”. Learn it well. When you become adults, you’re going to have even more people breathing down your neck and watching over you…boss and spouse comes to mind. I’m sure they won’t let you do “whatever you want as long as it’s legal”.
“Anyone under 18 shouldn’t even BE on the internet. There ought to be laws to keep kids off of it because of all the perverts and murderers.”
WOW! I really hope you’re being sarcastic. Otherwise, you’re probably the saddest person I’ve met and that’s saying alot. There are plenty of perverts and murderers in real life. Do you keep your kids locked up in their rooms too? When you go out do you have them wear little leashes? LOL! Reading comments like yours make me even more grateful that my parents weren’t batshit insane.
That’s just crazy, and also part of what i think is wrong with parents these days. First off pedophiles and murderers do not solely exist on the internet, secondly laws are not set in place to raise your children for you. As a parent you made a choice to have a child or were irresponsible enough to not take precautions, either way it is up to you to raise that child. Wether that means policing what they do, leading by example etc. Its all very well blaming Rock music and violent video games, but as the parent it is your responsibility to ensure your child doesnt have access to material they are a. not legally allowed b. could be potentially harmful.
i know what u mean, without the internet i wouldnt know ANYTHING, im 22 now but its not like i ever tune into the news on tv everyday i always get my news off the net ever since i was a kid
Nox, “I am only 16, and I can savely say that I’m happy that I don’t have a mom who controls me like this”
Perhaps if your mother was more like this mom, than you’d have gotten to the age of 16 knowing how to spell. aka “safely”….
Actually, I didn’t get the impression she was blaming FB for his stupidity, I’m thinking she’s blaming his friends for influencing certain transgressions (and which of us haven’t had friends on FB that like to blab about EVERYTHING we do (idiots)). She’s probably switching him to a nice military academy so he can take part in the lovely uniforms and structured discipline.
So tell me, Concerned Parents, would you like it if your son or daughter walked in to you having sex and completely banning you from coming near them ever again or ignoring you or making you feel completely humiliated? Uh, not the way I look at it. But the way I do look at it, investigating your son or daughter’s FaceBook/LiveJournal/YouTube/whatever account and finding something you former teenyboppers don’t approve of, such as swearing, is an invasion of privacy. Parents these days seem to have Facebook profiles all the time, thinking they’re some form of “hip” and “in with the times,” and do you see your sons/daughters investigating them for what you decide is inappropriate and PUBLICLY HUMILIATE YOU ABOUT IT VIA THE INTERNET? No. So, Concerned Parents, the point I’m trying to make is that no matter how you were raised by your abusive parents or how much you may believe it’s the right thing to do, purposely going into your son or daughter’s FaceBook/online/whatever profile is an invasion of privacy, because it’s their FacebOok, not yours. And yes, I understand if it concerns legal matters or whatever shit you may come up with, but going onto your son or daughter’s computer frequently for any “misbehaviour issues” he/she may be hiding is just proving you have no life.
And I’m just saying, because my mom can be extremely paranoid with my MSN account. All like, “Ohhh, who’re you TALKING toooo?” and shit trying to prove she’s better than me. Concerned Parents, I understand that you’re the parent and he/she is the child and you have all the authority, but you have to stop using this as your excuse to be a total jackass and accuse your son/daughter of everything he/she may be trying to do behind your back.
Now, if you were going into legal details, such as suspecting your spn/daughter might have killed somebody or committed a crime or has/is going to do something extremely dangerous or something along those lines, then I would understand. But please!
But then again, I’m not a parent, so what the fuck do I know.
1) She didn’t go investigating. She states, “You left your FB open…” so it’s not like she was hacking his stuff. Hell yeah I’d look.
2) If my kid walked in on me having sex, shame on me for not locking the door, and as a married adult, I would hope they’d realize I have sex with my spouse. Note I said MARRIED ADULT, not some punk assed pissed off kid like the one you sound like.
3) Sorry, no invasion of privacy via standards of the law. Rude, that’s arguable, but she’s within her legal rights as children DO NOT HAVE ANY WHILE LIVING AT HOME!!!! Sorry Jr, the constitution doesn’t cover your sorry ass when you live with mommy and daddy.
4) My parents weren’t abusive, they were looking over my shoulder to make sure I’m getting this “life” thing right without killing myself before I had a chance to actually live. Did I hate it then, yup, but now that I’m a parent I understand and hopefully you will too some day.
5) I have a life, it’s being a teacher to my kids about how to be the best they can be in an otherwise screwed up world. Like any good teacher I’m going to look over their shoulders once in a while to see they’re doing it right. Maybe if you weren’t so damned defensive your mom would let up.
Agreed, when I was growing up my parents didn’t really care all that much and didn’t discipline me and my brothers, I turned out alright but when I have kids I’m going to be a better parent and participate and make sure they are informed.
why you apologizing, you were right. kids deserve rights to whether the law provides them or not, parents should respect them. Hiding the kid away from everything that might possibly be a “bad” influence wont help them grow to be a better person, and them knowing wont help them be a better person.
Of course, I believe I’m entitled to my own opinion. But I may have said a few things that crossed the line, and I felt it within me to apologize to everyone I may have offended. However, that doesn’t stop me from believing children/teens should have SOME say in what their parents do. Yes, I know my mom and dad supply me with everything I need. But, of course, I get pissed off at times when they say or do things I personally find unfair. Maybe that’s just their way of trying to keep me safe, but I don’t know. Like I’ve said in the past, I’m not a parent. But I’m sure if you were a child, and your mom/dad was on your case all the time about stuff you might be doing, you’d at least feel a LITTLE annoyed. But that’s just me. ^_^
A note to everybody about the sex thing I mentioned: It may have been a REEEEALLY bad analogy. Sorry. I understand that sex is a normal part of a married relationship, don’t get me wrong. But if your son or daughter walked in to find you having sex, maybe you’d both feel a LITTLE embarrassed? (Well, obviously you would lock the door, but I’m just using an example where you wouldn’t.) It’s natural, I understand. So, please, don’t get me wrong. ^_^
Agreed. Whether the son’s behaviour is appropriate or not (it clearly is), public humiliation is way over the top, and goes against the very grain of values that a parent should be inculcating in kids…there’s a not so thin line between disciplining and bullying
Mom looking over your shoulder asking who you are talking to is not an invasion of privacy, sometimes they are just curious. You are not obligated to answer them, it’s called courtesy. When you leave your stuff out where anyone can read it, you are leaving yourself open for criticsm, parental guidance, and parental governance. We have parents to protect us from the stupid mistakes we are prone to make.
Kid, you DO know how you got here, right? Sex is natural, sex between a married couple only makes sense. You are the product of that. Dur.
We all think we know more than our parents. The we get older and see how right they actually were. I, for one, am grateful for the interference of considered adults (not just my parents) in how I conduct and present myself. If only I had listened more!
I do love it when children scream about an “invasion” of their privacy. Under no law are children entitled privacy, and it would be foolish for a parent to allow it. Fact is, anything can happen behind a locked door, to give a child that freedom is just asking for trouble.
In fact this very story is a perfect example, its obvious this parent was fairly leniant on their child, after all, she wasnt snooping, it just so happened that her child left it open, and by giving him/her the freedom that she did it would appear he/she had started drinking alcohol. Now if that child was to get drunk and cause damage to someones property who would have to pay for that damage? the parent. why? because they are responsible for you and as such have a right to know what you get up to.
One day you will reach an age when you realise all this, yeah it sucks at the time, but im glad my parents were as strict as they were because i came very close to slipping off the rails myself.
kids are pansies these days. I can’t wait to see the look on my kids face when I tell them “When I was your age I didn’t have the internet” Or how about tell them about when there were no ipods, digital cameras, HD TV, xbox live, cordless video game controllers, cell phones. Shoot, my first computer was DOS based.
Kids need to understand that they are KIDS, and it is the responsibility of the parent to raise them and keep them out of trouble. That involves oversight. Just because it is the Internet doesn’t mean it is excluded from parental oversight.
This Mom Totally wins. I fully intend to stay up to date on the tech curve, so my kids don’t stand a chance.
Wow. I agree with the two above. Only parents who hate their kids and want to make their lives a living hell will do this to them. Like I said elsewhere, I know parents that do this to their kids, and they are the ones stealing, the ones drinking underage, the ones doing all of the other illegal things.
Parents need to learn that if you teach your kids right, and give them room, they will learn to behave. If they are punished because they moved one foot over too far, then they learn to hate everyone and will take it out on everyone later in life.
I am 18, and a senior in high school. I have seen the effects of both upbringings. Parents who are strict and policing their childrens behavior cause them to be the bulllies in school. People who have freedom, like going out with friends every friday, going to see local friends after school on some days, having a phone to talk to said friends, as well as having privacy on their computer bring them up right. I have seen these people use manners, and they do their work and do well. The policed kids don’t do their work, they skip a lot, smoke, drink, fight, and all because of what their parents do to them.
If you want your kids to be raised right, do the right thing and give them room, don’t cover them with a blanket and hope that they don’t become aware of the real world. Many of the kids who drink so much end up suffering the next day and hate it. Most of them will still drink, but in moderation. Others will stay away from anything alcoholic. Like I said. Give them room to make mistakes and they will learn to do the right thing.
Never forget that it was Adolf Hiters parents who told him to hate all the Jews because they are the reason that the world is ‘tainted’. He was held in from the outside world and was told what to do all the time, and look how HE turned out.
She was being a smart ass on the transferring schools to get to him! come on any parent knows that, and I personally think she was trying to also be a little funny, why can’t we all just get along and laugh at this kid for being such a dumb ass and leaving his facebook page open so his mother could see!
Rule in my house is: everything is MINE. I will read it, look through it, research it all I want if you give me reason to suspect wrongdoing. I will and do go through my son’s computer history, and look through his bookbag.
If they don’t like it – there’s the door! You have no “rights” in my home.
The school system is majorly failing our youth, giving them an inflated sense of entitlement. Get over yourselves.
I totally agree with you there! If we as parents don’t take the responsibility to know what are children are doing we are the bad parents, I commend this mother for what she did.
My God. If I’d had either of you for a mother, I’d have killed myself as a teenager.
What’s next, full body cavity searches? After all, you never know what your kids might be hiding up their butts. Who cares how invasive or insulting it is? They’re only children, not PEOPLE!
To everybody who hasn’t already read my other post, I apologize for my rude and insensitive behaviour in that first rant message. To EVERYBODY, and I mean EVERYBODY who I’ve offended, including Active Resistance and others, I truly, deeply apologize. I was just being really stupid there, and I have no idea what the hell I was thinking when I said that. I’m sorry. I shouldn’t even be talking, for I am not a parent and I know nothing about what it feels like to worry about what your son or daughter is doing on the Internet. Hell, I’m just a kid, so what do I know? Again, I’m really sorry. Please excuse my horrendous behaviour. Yesterday, I had a bit of a bad day, so I came home and took my anger out anonymously on FailBooking. What the hell is wrong with me?
I can’t stress it enough: I’m sorry. Please, to everyone I’ve offended, forgive me!
You are way too apologetic. You’re entitled to your opinion, as is everyone else. Don’t worry about offending someone online, it’s just that, online.
Who gives a S**t what anyone else thinks.
That’s very true, I am in fact entitled to my own opinion. But what I said may have been too harsh and I’ve clearly offended a ton of people, so I decided to apologize. Call me a pathetic loser, but I was feeling bad about it for a few hours yesterday after hearing what a few people had to say. So I felt it within myself to apologize. I may have over-apologized a bit, but at least a few people forgive me.
Some things you should consider:
Who puts a roof over your head?
Who pays for the internet access that allows you to get on to facebook?
Since when is it wrong for a parent to raise their child?
A parent is resonsible for the actions of their child, if you break a window it is your parents that would have to pay for it, so why should a parent care what their child is up to?
Im stating the obvious here but you need to grow up and realise that the world is alot bigger than you think it is, and i personally would take being embarrased by my mom over getting my stomach pumped (trust me, it is not pleasant)
I know many kids who have pay for everything themselves, their own phone, clothes, internet, school supplies, rent and even food. It is disgusting. While I see the value in teaching kids to manage money, it is the LAW that parents care for their kids and provide for them, if parents don’t they go to JAIL. It is the parents responsibility, as a result of their own actions, to care for and teach their kids, wanted or not. Being a parent does NOT mean that you have the child’s best interest at heart. I think child abuse is proof enough of that, if any one disagree’s go ahead and try to prove me wrong.
Wow people !! According to some of these comments, I must be a horrible parent. My children 23 and 26, know that I will still look at their stuff to see what they are up to. If you don’t want your parents to know what you are doing — don’t do it. I think my kids turned out to be very respectable adults.
I agree with Shonda it is our responsibility as parents to know what our kids are doing.
Oh how I love my daughter !!! btw dear what is on Daniel’s head in your fb pic ???
Lmao! I love you mom! And yes she will still “snoop” on us but we know its because she loves us and cares, Both of us have clean records and live productive respectable lives and still talk to our mother, btw Dena is my mother and omg she just said fb does that mean its a fake comment??? OMG people learn how to respect your parents.
Just wanted to point out to “None of your business” and those who want to take the “cops have to read us our ‘rights’, so obviously we have them” stance:
First, what you refer to as “rights” is actually called Miranda Warning (in some states Miranda Rights. Police officers are technically only required to recite this to you before questioning you (not at the time of arrest). In many states (hell, most if not all, as far as I am aware) a parent is required to be present while a minor is being questioned.
Second, from a legal perspective, minors DO have all sorts of rights. However, there is a limited scope of these that do not entail a parent/legal guardians involvement or permission. Mostly minor “rights” are more about labor laws-breaks, hours worked, hours they can work. You DO have the right to earn money, you DO NOT (legally speaking) own ANY property to claim (your car, computer, clothes, etc. technically all belong to your parents).
Third, even if you, hypothetically, had the kind of rights you (obvious) children believe you do: your parents are legally responsible for you and if the don’t take that obligation seriously can be charged with an array of crimes (such as, but not limited to: neglect, child endangerment, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, unlawful use of a compter {this is called different things depending on the state} and others). Also, you live in their home, use a room, computer and electricity they provide (or pay for), they have the right to set whatever rules they choose. Before you bring up any kind of renter’s rights: if you are a minor, you can’t be a renter as it is illegal to enter into a contract with a minor and a rental agreement has to be issued and signed by both parties to have these rights.
As long as: you aren’t being endangered, molested, abused, locked in chains or photographed in the nude…you basically DON’T have rights as far as privacy, computer usage, ownership or doing what you want are concerned.
umm i partially agree with you parents do have to take care of their kids especialy if there kids go over the top but a kid needs to learn about the real world keeping them tied down will only lead them to think that the world is a horrible place and then they will be unhappy in and throught their lives.and i do belive that even though kids have almost no rights parents have to be courteous or else their kids will learn not to be. for me i learn by example i do belive it is better to leave you kid some space to grow but at the same time control them to a certain point
Wooooow fuck up mom. When are people going to learn that you can’t teach someone to do the right thing by being a dictator. A kid does something wrong you talk to them help them change their behavior willingly cuz otherwise as soon as parents don’t have control they WILL do whatever they want, but they also will not have the skills to restrain themselves for their own beliefs. parents also can’t control who their kids come in contact with or are friends with, they just have to do their best to prepare them for the real world and show that their always there to support and love them no matter what. Kids will most often rebel against authoritarian type treatment as well, so even if they wouldn’t have done something on their own, they do to feel like they have some kind of control. Any time a parent tries to change a kids behavior by being like that mom they only paint themselves as the bad guy and make it even less likely for kids to take anything they say to heart, or respect and love them at all.
So, chelles, your kid gets busted for drinking underage after wrecking the family car you’re going to give them a big hug and say, “tsk, tsk, don’t do that again please.”??? Good luck with that.
No, parents can’t control who their kids come in contact with, but they can put guidelines on who they hang out with.
If authoritarianism doesn’t work, how is it the military has functioned so well for so long?
Do you honestly think this woman is a dictator 24/7? I doubt it, but I bet she can drop the hammer when she needs to, like she’s done now. My kids know I’m a big cuddle, but mouth off to me and there’s a smack on the @ss coming.
@ Sam,
I’m sorry you had a bad day.
Based on your grammar you’re not a stupid person, but the truth is *** and this goes to anyone that doesn’t have kids yet *** you just won’t understand until you’re in that situation. I thought I knew everything I needed to know about being a parent and handling any situation thrown at me, I’m well educated, pretty high I.Q., decent parents as examples, what could go wrong… oh yeah, REALITY. I still don’t know it all and hope I never have to deal with a situation like the mom above is dealing with.
Breath deep, smile and just nod your head. They’ll either think you’re agreeing with them or you’re nuts. Either way it’s a win.
No but getting ” busted for drinking underage after wrecking the family car ” is a little more extreme than having friends who have drank. The fact is that pretty much everyone drinks or has drank at some point before they are 21. Thank you for bringing up the military, it only demonstrates my point. You say it has “functioned” yet if it was functioning what are we still doing in Iraq and Afghanistan, why are soldiers coming back with P.T.S.D. why is there war? The military may sometimes accomplish their set goals by brute force but it doesn’t make them right, and it doesn’t make the rest of the world agree with us. Just like we can’t make Iraqi’s agree and conform to our ideals by use of force we cannot make our children agree or conform by brute force. If we want to make change in Iraq then we have to allow Iraq to be Iraq and set up a government that works for them. Not destroy and ignore their culture, but show them by example what works, because we cannot stay their forever policing them. The military is authoritarian to soldiers also because they are working on dehumanizing them, and desensitizing them to the idea of killing another human being, not to be a healthy, productive person. Now to answer you, yes, If my kid was busted for drinking underage after wrecking the family car ” I would do whatever I could to win their hearts back because it is a question of their character or lack of information/judgment that had led to it, It would be greatly be my fault in that case. i wouldn’t publicly humiliate them or do anything that would make them see me as the enemy, as soon as you do that you’ve lost the war even if it’s just in that moment. What would I do? I do not know, I would be very angry, I’d feel like a failure, but what would I change by taking away their freedom? They would only be “obeying” to avoid consequence not because they know it is the right thing to do. And as for “mouth off to me and there’s a smack on the @ss coming” I would never lay a hand on my child like that, fear is no way to control someone, especially someone you should love. I do not hold my self in such high regard that I would not tolerate my child questioning something I have said, I am fallible, I would hear out what they have to say whatever they honestly think, then hope to change or correct their thoughts. Respect is earned and just being a parent does not excuse you from that, if you want your children to respect you show you are respectable. But you can do it your way chain up your kid gag em and say “YOU WILL RESPECT ME, YOU WILL LOVE ME. ” I promise it wont work. If a kid escapes that sort of upbringing and is a good happy successful person then bravo to the kid because it certainly wasn’t with the parents help.
WHAT CAN WE NOT DO A DAMN THING WITHOUT HAVING TO BRING UP THE F*ING WAR??? IF YOU ARE THAT SHALLOW IN TRYING TO MAKE A POINT THAT YOU HAVE TO BRING THAT UP, I DONT KNOW IT JUST PISSES ME OFF TALK ABOUT THE SUBJECT AT HAND AND NOT THE WAR. btw he did not say he did wreck the car, but if you do not stop the child from drinking or at least try then when he does make another bad decision to take that car it is your responsibility, so are you saying you would let your child drink whenever they want? but what happens when they become alcoholic? will you let them do drug? but what happens when they become an addict? will you let them have sex? what happens when they become pregnant? its fine to let them do the wrong things, but when the wrong things get them into trouble it is their faults and not the parents? wrong! it is both but it is the parents responsibility to teach the child right from wrong, so when they are given the temptations of these wrong things they can make the right choice, and me being a parent (retired teen) I know kids will do it, but you better damn well believe that if i were ever in a situation where I was not safe and needed a ride home I could call my mom. You can keep arguing the point with me, but seems to me, this is a parent/child war here. and no matter where it goes, it will never end.
You are misunderstanding my point if you think I was saying to do nothing, Of course you do. A lot of what you said goes along with what I was trying to say, but my point is that an iron fist, or hiding a child away from the real world is not the way to do it. The expression “give a man a fish, feed him for a day. teach a man how to fish, feed him for a life time.” is sorta what I’m getting at. You cannot always be there to snatch away every temptation a child has, you have to teach them to be able to hold back from them even when temptations are right there in front of them. There are some things in life that you do have to learn the hard way, it doesn’t mean just let kids do whatever. I also hate bringing the war into everything but it was brought up by someone else trying to make a counter-point which I simply tried to correct. The situations between the way our military works with other countries and towards our own is symbolic however of a parent child relationship, in the way I mentioned before. I also know the crashing the car was a hypothetical situation and I answered as such. I am glad you were able to depend on your parents when you got into bad situations, that is the type of thing I am trying to say should happen. Micheal’s mother would not seem to be the type of mother you could depend on in that kind situation. You wont confide in or trust a person to help if they are holding a proverbial ax over your head. I am done trying to get through to anyone however, because it will “never end” because some people will never change their ways, or try see reason.
Hey Chelles I was just saying I was mad about the whole war comment and not just by you by everyone on these damn interwebs lol, I wasn’t totally disagreeing with you either!
Respect has to be earned. Snooping, threatening, and publically humiliating your son because his friends apparently got their hands on some alchohol is not the way to do that.
He was drinking the good Captain too you can be sure.Probably why he forgot to close Facebook.I love the way all the kids are going “Waaaah,I’m being oppressed”
I love the way you assume Michael was drinking too and that everyone who objects to his mom’s behavior must be a kid. I for one am an adult who remembers what it’s like to be a teenager. It’s sad how many here seem to have forgotten.
I feel like this is fake. All of those names are conspicuously common names, and I find it odd that there are two michaels and two Anthonys (antonio and anthony)
I must say go mom on this one. One thing no one has said on here is that he was doing something he wasn’t suppose to be doing, aka drinking. Now I am only infering that he is under age and that he was drinking but I firmly think that everything in life has consequences, weather they be good or bad. For minors privacy is a courtesy not a right, my mom respects my privacy but if she finds out I’ve done something I’m not suppose to be doing and that knows I know I’m not to be doing it I get punished, I hang my head take my punishment and move on.
I’m 16. My parents look at my profile now and then just to see what I’m up to. They understand that I complain about things they do sometimes; they were kids too. They don’t log in as me, but they just look. They trust me enough.
I don’t care if my parents look at my Facebook. I don’t have anything to hide. Those of you complaining about your parents reading your stuff obviously do.
There’s a fine line, though. You don’t post updates for the world to see to cause them to be humiliated. You don’t send messages to their friends pretending to be them. (she didn’t do that, but it’s an example). Deal with the problem face-to-face.
And then of course there’s those parents that are freaking crazy and have to know every aspect of their kids lives, which doesn’t do anything but make them resent you.
Bottom line? Do what you’re supposed to, and you’re parents won’t have to look at your facebook. And parents, chill the hell out sometimes.
However this situation should be handled, the public humiliation was a clear cut case of bad parenting.
Also, I noticed there are a few advocates of helicopter-parenting posting here. While it is important to know what is going on in your kid’s life, no amount of searching will stop them from doing something they want to do; they will just learn to hide things better. You would be amazed at some of the things kids can pull off when it comes to getting away with stuff.
That micro-managing helicopter approach is not the solution; the solution is to teach your kid to make the right decisions. I realize that can be really hard but taking away privacy and punishments will ultimately accomplish nothing. You don’t need to, nor should you, ban your kid from hanging aroung people who drink or might do bad things; you need to teach him how to handle those situations properly when they occur.
You should base your relationship on respect, not fear. You need to respect them like they need to respect you if you are going to raise a good kid.
Basically, you need to do the opposite of what this lady did when she humiliated him on his FB page.
The guys who are saying go mom are f**gots…if they were caught red-handed like that, bet they wouldn’t be laughin. And who leaves their s**t open that contains evidence that proves they’ve been consuming stuff like alcohol or whatnot? Haha dummy
TSRIF!!!!
.LIAF EFIL
LSMP
lol wow
MostLikelyFaked
Apparently, mom has never had a little Cap’n in her!!
That’s not what she said after last nite…
^win
I’d love to have a mother like that…
I would love to BE a mother like that!
I AMMM a mother like that! and have been LONG before FB… and yes, I am in my 50′s and make a POINT of keeping up w/technology and DO have kids in college and out that would agree w/ me that it was a good thing to have a mom aware of your crap!
Post naked pics!!!
thank GOD i’m not stupid enough to leave my password in it.
i’d most likely be dead if if tht happened to me.
etselec, shut the hell up.
Most moms don’t refer to Facebook as FB…
Maybe she’s a young mom. My 35-year-old FB addicted friend who speaks perfect “netspeak” has a 17-year-old…
My mom refers to it as FB and she’s in her fifties
Age isn’t everything. Participation is.
I am so going to quote this line. Perfectly stated.
Well said!! Nice quote!
Thank you Heather! Love it. I’m 51 and have been on the internet since most of the children here were in diapers, my kids are on FB (Facebook) and my dad is also. The answer isn’t ‘parents shouldn’t be on FB’, the answer is, don’t be a douchebag.
Privacy controls: A Good Thing.
What part of this says he’s in college? He could be just another 16 year old lush, and in that case, she has a legal right to intervene on behalf of her son and his illicit behavior. The problem is… well, drinking goes on at any school; it’s better to teach him how to behave properly than it is to keep him locked up and inexperienced.
Spoken like someone with no kids, Rachel. Personally, I teach my kids how to dodge cars, I mean, they’re going to play in the street anyway….
nicely said.
no, not nicely said, or wisely said. drinking alcohol is not the same thing as playing in the street, and the implied parallel is invalid. most responsible adults drink alcohol responsibly, because they have been taught, or have otherwise learned how to manage its use. very few responsible adults play in traffic. a better parallel would be to say “he’s going to cross the street anways, so might as well teach him to do it without being hit by a car”
*fist-bump*
Also not forgetting to mention that he left himself logged into Facebook from her computer, so she may not have even had to open a new page to see the comment about the rum. In which case she would not have to have used his Facebook. Also judging from her reaction to said rum it would be a rather safe bet that he is underage which is also self incrimination since he is admitting to at least drinking it or having possession of the bottle.
Uh, I know parents that punish their 22-year-olds for drinking. Whether at home or out. By the sound of ‘new school you are going to’ sounds like she is forcibly transferring colleges.
Also, she would have talked to him and not put that. Nothing adds up.
sucks to be him
Where does it say that he is in college, the way I read it he is in high school. And obviously he is living in her house still she has every right to look at his page. You better believe I will be looking and my kids internet history when they get older.
Sorry to say, but that would make you a freak mom IMO. I am only 16, and I can savely say that I’m happy that I don’t have a mom who controls me like this… She doesn’t give a fuck about what I do, as long it’s legal.
Not being controlling and not caring what you do are two extremely different things. I’d rather have a parent who looks at my history (even though I hated it when my parents did that to me) than have parents who don’t care what I do “as long as it’s legal.” There’s tons of stuff that is not good for a 16 year old to do that’s still legal.
Oh, and this kid was clearly doing something illegal. I’d hope your mom would say something to you if she found incriminating photos of you being drunk.
Which is exactly why you are many times more likely than Shonda’s kids to be pregnant, addicted to drugs and/or in jail before you are 18.
Anyone under 18 shouldn’t even BE on the internet. There ought to be laws to keep kids off of it because of all the perverts and murderers.
Until we have the sense to keep kids of the internet, parents have EVERY SINGLE RIGHT to keep track of EVERYTHING their kids do on the net. Sorry, but the only freaks are parents who don’t police every little site kids go to and people they talk to.
Paranoid much?
If you police your children they will grow up to resent you when they’re neck deep in trouble, and they’re scared to call their parents because they think they will be more angry than worried.
If you raise them right they will know that what you did was just to better their lives, if they know that you always have their best interest in mind then you will be the first one they call in times of need. Parents who don’t know what their kids are doing yield kids who end up becoming violent criminals.
If your parents cared they wouldn’t go around patrolling everything you do. If they know that you skulk around what they do, forcing yourself into everything they do, they will be afraid of their parents. I know lots of kids whose parents are like this and THEY are the criminals of the school. They hate their parents so much that they are doing everything they can to get out.
And yet you say that kids will be fine with you controlling every aspect of their lives ‘as long as they know it is for their better good’. I have NEVER heard or seen any kids that behaved good because the parents did this. Only the parents that do this to their kids say that it helps. It sounds more like they want kids around just to do housework and other things for them, then act like a money supply when they get jobs later.
If you want them to grow up good, teach them the difference between right and wrong, and give them room to make mistakes to learn. Don’t patrol and control them to the point that they only know that everything they do will be scrutinized, scaring them off from doing anything later on.
well then your kids can send you to jail!
Considering parents can go to jail or be fined for what their children do, I sure hope to God all parents “police” their children!!! If my 16 year old gets drunk and does something idiotic and I have to pay the price, you bet your @ss my kid will be under house arrest until they are old enough to take the fall for themselves!
Listen, teens who want so much freedom from their parents, “Freedom isn’t Free”. Learn it well. When you become adults, you’re going to have even more people breathing down your neck and watching over you…boss and spouse comes to mind. I’m sure they won’t let you do “whatever you want as long as it’s legal”.
“Anyone under 18 shouldn’t even BE on the internet. There ought to be laws to keep kids off of it because of all the perverts and murderers.”
WOW! I really hope you’re being sarcastic. Otherwise, you’re probably the saddest person I’ve met and that’s saying alot. There are plenty of perverts and murderers in real life. Do you keep your kids locked up in their rooms too? When you go out do you have them wear little leashes? LOL! Reading comments like yours make me even more grateful that my parents weren’t batshit insane.
I second that!
if that is really what you think, you are quite the idiot…
That’s just crazy, and also part of what i think is wrong with parents these days. First off pedophiles and murderers do not solely exist on the internet, secondly laws are not set in place to raise your children for you. As a parent you made a choice to have a child or were irresponsible enough to not take precautions, either way it is up to you to raise that child. Wether that means policing what they do, leading by example etc. Its all very well blaming Rock music and violent video games, but as the parent it is your responsibility to ensure your child doesnt have access to material they are a. not legally allowed b. could be potentially harmful.
In short, man up and accept responsibility.
I’m imagining what my life without internet would have been like if I wasn’t allowed on it until the age 18.
I see crushing boredom, low grades, followed by many, many bodies.
The bodies part sounds nice, but I hold you responsible for my imaginary boredom and underachievement in school.
i know what u mean, without the internet i wouldnt know ANYTHING, im 22 now but its not like i ever tune into the news on tv everyday i always get my news off the net ever since i was a kid
Nox, “I am only 16, and I can savely say that I’m happy that I don’t have a mom who controls me like this”
Perhaps if your mother was more like this mom, than you’d have gotten to the age of 16 knowing how to spell. aka “safely”….
or “then” instead of “than”
apologies for this juvenile intrusion…but I love correcting typos of people who love correcting typos!
Andy_roy, touche
What a tyrant. “I’m gonna change your school because I don’t like your Facebook!” Blaming Facebook for lousy parenting is weak sauce.
Actually, I didn’t get the impression she was blaming FB for his stupidity, I’m thinking she’s blaming his friends for influencing certain transgressions (and which of us haven’t had friends on FB that like to blab about EVERYTHING we do (idiots)). She’s probably switching him to a nice military academy so he can take part in the lovely uniforms and structured discipline.
Some of the weakest, my friend.
he got MOM’D
So tell me, Concerned Parents, would you like it if your son or daughter walked in to you having sex and completely banning you from coming near them ever again or ignoring you or making you feel completely humiliated? Uh, not the way I look at it. But the way I do look at it, investigating your son or daughter’s FaceBook/LiveJournal/YouTube/whatever account and finding something you former teenyboppers don’t approve of, such as swearing, is an invasion of privacy. Parents these days seem to have Facebook profiles all the time, thinking they’re some form of “hip” and “in with the times,” and do you see your sons/daughters investigating them for what you decide is inappropriate and PUBLICLY HUMILIATE YOU ABOUT IT VIA THE INTERNET? No. So, Concerned Parents, the point I’m trying to make is that no matter how you were raised by your abusive parents or how much you may believe it’s the right thing to do, purposely going into your son or daughter’s FaceBook/online/whatever profile is an invasion of privacy, because it’s their FacebOok, not yours. And yes, I understand if it concerns legal matters or whatever shit you may come up with, but going onto your son or daughter’s computer frequently for any “misbehaviour issues” he/she may be hiding is just proving you have no life.
And I’m just saying, because my mom can be extremely paranoid with my MSN account. All like, “Ohhh, who’re you TALKING toooo?” and shit trying to prove she’s better than me. Concerned Parents, I understand that you’re the parent and he/she is the child and you have all the authority, but you have to stop using this as your excuse to be a total jackass and accuse your son/daughter of everything he/she may be trying to do behind your back.
Now, if you were going into legal details, such as suspecting your spn/daughter might have killed somebody or committed a crime or has/is going to do something extremely dangerous or something along those lines, then I would understand. But please!
But then again, I’m not a parent, so what the fuck do I know.
1) She didn’t go investigating. She states, “You left your FB open…” so it’s not like she was hacking his stuff. Hell yeah I’d look.
2) If my kid walked in on me having sex, shame on me for not locking the door, and as a married adult, I would hope they’d realize I have sex with my spouse. Note I said MARRIED ADULT, not some punk assed pissed off kid like the one you sound like.
3) Sorry, no invasion of privacy via standards of the law. Rude, that’s arguable, but she’s within her legal rights as children DO NOT HAVE ANY WHILE LIVING AT HOME!!!! Sorry Jr, the constitution doesn’t cover your sorry ass when you live with mommy and daddy.
4) My parents weren’t abusive, they were looking over my shoulder to make sure I’m getting this “life” thing right without killing myself before I had a chance to actually live. Did I hate it then, yup, but now that I’m a parent I understand and hopefully you will too some day.
5) I have a life, it’s being a teacher to my kids about how to be the best they can be in an otherwise screwed up world. Like any good teacher I’m going to look over their shoulders once in a while to see they’re doing it right. Maybe if you weren’t so damned defensive your mom would let up.
Agreed, when I was growing up my parents didn’t really care all that much and didn’t discipline me and my brothers, I turned out alright but when I have kids I’m going to be a better parent and participate and make sure they are informed.
why you apologizing, you were right. kids deserve rights to whether the law provides them or not, parents should respect them. Hiding the kid away from everything that might possibly be a “bad” influence wont help them grow to be a better person, and them knowing wont help them be a better person.
Of course, I believe I’m entitled to my own opinion. But I may have said a few things that crossed the line, and I felt it within me to apologize to everyone I may have offended. However, that doesn’t stop me from believing children/teens should have SOME say in what their parents do. Yes, I know my mom and dad supply me with everything I need. But, of course, I get pissed off at times when they say or do things I personally find unfair. Maybe that’s just their way of trying to keep me safe, but I don’t know. Like I’ve said in the past, I’m not a parent. But I’m sure if you were a child, and your mom/dad was on your case all the time about stuff you might be doing, you’d at least feel a LITTLE annoyed. But that’s just me. ^_^
A note to everybody about the sex thing I mentioned: It may have been a REEEEALLY bad analogy. Sorry. I understand that sex is a normal part of a married relationship, don’t get me wrong. But if your son or daughter walked in to find you having sex, maybe you’d both feel a LITTLE embarrassed? (Well, obviously you would lock the door, but I’m just using an example where you wouldn’t.) It’s natural, I understand. So, please, don’t get me wrong. ^_^
Agreed. Whether the son’s behaviour is appropriate or not (it clearly is), public humiliation is way over the top, and goes against the very grain of values that a parent should be inculcating in kids…there’s a not so thin line between disciplining and bullying
- a dad of two kids
“Whether the son’s behaviour is appropriate or not ”
oops…please read as “INappropriate”
Agreed.
Mom looking over your shoulder asking who you are talking to is not an invasion of privacy, sometimes they are just curious. You are not obligated to answer them, it’s called courtesy. When you leave your stuff out where anyone can read it, you are leaving yourself open for criticsm, parental guidance, and parental governance. We have parents to protect us from the stupid mistakes we are prone to make.
Kid, you DO know how you got here, right? Sex is natural, sex between a married couple only makes sense. You are the product of that. Dur.
We all think we know more than our parents. The we get older and see how right they actually were. I, for one, am grateful for the interference of considered adults (not just my parents) in how I conduct and present myself. If only I had listened more!
The only truthful comment in your rant was the last sentence.
I do love it when children scream about an “invasion” of their privacy. Under no law are children entitled privacy, and it would be foolish for a parent to allow it. Fact is, anything can happen behind a locked door, to give a child that freedom is just asking for trouble.
In fact this very story is a perfect example, its obvious this parent was fairly leniant on their child, after all, she wasnt snooping, it just so happened that her child left it open, and by giving him/her the freedom that she did it would appear he/she had started drinking alcohol. Now if that child was to get drunk and cause damage to someones property who would have to pay for that damage? the parent. why? because they are responsible for you and as such have a right to know what you get up to.
One day you will reach an age when you realise all this, yeah it sucks at the time, but im glad my parents were as strict as they were because i came very close to slipping off the rails myself.
I hope you will enjoy your child hating you when you’re old and alone, mom.
I hope you enjoy your freedom when you’re dead from a crack overdose and gang rape, B.
B was being condescending first, and the insult was uncalled for.
Michael’s mom win
Parenting FAIL, more like.
definite parenting fail. Bet we check up on Micheal in a few years and he’ll be in all kinds of trouble.
kids are pansies these days. I can’t wait to see the look on my kids face when I tell them “When I was your age I didn’t have the internet” Or how about tell them about when there were no ipods, digital cameras, HD TV, xbox live, cordless video game controllers, cell phones. Shoot, my first computer was DOS based.
Kids need to understand that they are KIDS, and it is the responsibility of the parent to raise them and keep them out of trouble. That involves oversight. Just because it is the Internet doesn’t mean it is excluded from parental oversight.
This Mom Totally wins. I fully intend to stay up to date on the tech curve, so my kids don’t stand a chance.
Ass.
i second that motion
Wow. I agree with the two above. Only parents who hate their kids and want to make their lives a living hell will do this to them. Like I said elsewhere, I know parents that do this to their kids, and they are the ones stealing, the ones drinking underage, the ones doing all of the other illegal things.
Parents need to learn that if you teach your kids right, and give them room, they will learn to behave. If they are punished because they moved one foot over too far, then they learn to hate everyone and will take it out on everyone later in life.
I am 18, and a senior in high school. I have seen the effects of both upbringings. Parents who are strict and policing their childrens behavior cause them to be the bulllies in school. People who have freedom, like going out with friends every friday, going to see local friends after school on some days, having a phone to talk to said friends, as well as having privacy on their computer bring them up right. I have seen these people use manners, and they do their work and do well. The policed kids don’t do their work, they skip a lot, smoke, drink, fight, and all because of what their parents do to them.
If you want your kids to be raised right, do the right thing and give them room, don’t cover them with a blanket and hope that they don’t become aware of the real world. Many of the kids who drink so much end up suffering the next day and hate it. Most of them will still drink, but in moderation. Others will stay away from anything alcoholic. Like I said. Give them room to make mistakes and they will learn to do the right thing.
Never forget that it was Adolf Hiters parents who told him to hate all the Jews because they are the reason that the world is ‘tainted’. He was held in from the outside world and was told what to do all the time, and look how HE turned out.
Why is his last name so much longer in the status than it is under his Facebook name?
My guess is that she put in his middle name too. Parents do that sometimes when they’re really really angry.
Yeah Right, Come on thats not true!!! Idt. But it could be a “stepmom” So she is like youngified. Idk , but its ackward.
Eh, Believe it or not I know who this person is LOL. He is indeed a minor and the parent wrote his full name
Yeah? Did he get transferred? I’m just trying to find out if mom followed up on her threat. I know I would.
She was being a smart ass on the transferring schools to get to him! come on any parent knows that, and I personally think she was trying to also be a little funny, why can’t we all just get along and laugh at this kid for being such a dumb ass and leaving his facebook page open so his mother could see!
lol you’re a retard XD
Rule in my house is: everything is MINE. I will read it, look through it, research it all I want if you give me reason to suspect wrongdoing. I will and do go through my son’s computer history, and look through his bookbag.
If they don’t like it – there’s the door! You have no “rights” in my home.
The school system is majorly failing our youth, giving them an inflated sense of entitlement. Get over yourselves.
I totally agree with you there! If we as parents don’t take the responsibility to know what are children are doing we are the bad parents, I commend this mother for what she did.
My God. If I’d had either of you for a mother, I’d have killed myself as a teenager.
What’s next, full body cavity searches? After all, you never know what your kids might be hiding up their butts. Who cares how invasive or insulting it is? They’re only children, not PEOPLE!
You make me sick.
i agree with phyre
Haahha, yayy my post got accepted
To everybody who hasn’t already read my other post, I apologize for my rude and insensitive behaviour in that first rant message. To EVERYBODY, and I mean EVERYBODY who I’ve offended, including Active Resistance and others, I truly, deeply apologize. I was just being really stupid there, and I have no idea what the hell I was thinking when I said that. I’m sorry. I shouldn’t even be talking, for I am not a parent and I know nothing about what it feels like to worry about what your son or daughter is doing on the Internet. Hell, I’m just a kid, so what do I know? Again, I’m really sorry. Please excuse my horrendous behaviour. Yesterday, I had a bit of a bad day, so I came home and took my anger out anonymously on FailBooking. What the hell is wrong with me?
I can’t stress it enough: I’m sorry. Please, to everyone I’ve offended, forgive me!
You are way too apologetic. You’re entitled to your opinion, as is everyone else. Don’t worry about offending someone online, it’s just that, online.
Who gives a S**t what anyone else thinks.
That’s very true, I am in fact entitled to my own opinion. But what I said may have been too harsh and I’ve clearly offended a ton of people, so I decided to apologize. Call me a pathetic loser, but I was feeling bad about it for a few hours yesterday after hearing what a few people had to say. So I felt it within myself to apologize. I may have over-apologized a bit, but at least a few people forgive me.
aww Sam come on now…you’ve been forgiven way back…but at this rate we might now ask you to apologize for over-apologizing….chill
Some things you should consider:
Who puts a roof over your head?
Who pays for the internet access that allows you to get on to facebook?
Since when is it wrong for a parent to raise their child?
A parent is resonsible for the actions of their child, if you break a window it is your parents that would have to pay for it, so why should a parent care what their child is up to?
Im stating the obvious here but you need to grow up and realise that the world is alot bigger than you think it is, and i personally would take being embarrased by my mom over getting my stomach pumped (trust me, it is not pleasant)
I know many kids who have pay for everything themselves, their own phone, clothes, internet, school supplies, rent and even food. It is disgusting. While I see the value in teaching kids to manage money, it is the LAW that parents care for their kids and provide for them, if parents don’t they go to JAIL. It is the parents responsibility, as a result of their own actions, to care for and teach their kids, wanted or not. Being a parent does NOT mean that you have the child’s best interest at heart. I think child abuse is proof enough of that, if any one disagree’s go ahead and try to prove me wrong.
Wow people !! According to some of these comments, I must be a horrible parent. My children 23 and 26, know that I will still look at their stuff to see what they are up to. If you don’t want your parents to know what you are doing — don’t do it. I think my kids turned out to be very respectable adults.
I agree with Shonda it is our responsibility as parents to know what our kids are doing.
Oh how I love my daughter !!! btw dear what is on Daniel’s head in your fb pic ???
Lmao! I love you mom! And yes she will still “snoop” on us but we know its because she loves us and cares, Both of us have clean records and live productive respectable lives and still talk to our mother, btw Dena is my mother and omg she just said fb does that mean its a fake comment??? OMG people learn how to respect your parents.
Just wanted to point out to “None of your business” and those who want to take the “cops have to read us our ‘rights’, so obviously we have them” stance:
First, what you refer to as “rights” is actually called Miranda Warning (in some states Miranda Rights. Police officers are technically only required to recite this to you before questioning you (not at the time of arrest). In many states (hell, most if not all, as far as I am aware) a parent is required to be present while a minor is being questioned.
Second, from a legal perspective, minors DO have all sorts of rights. However, there is a limited scope of these that do not entail a parent/legal guardians involvement or permission. Mostly minor “rights” are more about labor laws-breaks, hours worked, hours they can work. You DO have the right to earn money, you DO NOT (legally speaking) own ANY property to claim (your car, computer, clothes, etc. technically all belong to your parents).
Third, even if you, hypothetically, had the kind of rights you (obvious) children believe you do: your parents are legally responsible for you and if the don’t take that obligation seriously can be charged with an array of crimes (such as, but not limited to: neglect, child endangerment, contributing to the delinquency of a minor, unlawful use of a compter {this is called different things depending on the state} and others). Also, you live in their home, use a room, computer and electricity they provide (or pay for), they have the right to set whatever rules they choose. Before you bring up any kind of renter’s rights: if you are a minor, you can’t be a renter as it is illegal to enter into a contract with a minor and a rental agreement has to be issued and signed by both parties to have these rights.
As long as: you aren’t being endangered, molested, abused, locked in chains or photographed in the nude…you basically DON’T have rights as far as privacy, computer usage, ownership or doing what you want are concerned.
umm i partially agree with you parents do have to take care of their kids especialy if there kids go over the top but a kid needs to learn about the real world keeping them tied down will only lead them to think that the world is a horrible place and then they will be unhappy in and throught their lives.and i do belive that even though kids have almost no rights parents have to be courteous or else their kids will learn not to be. for me i learn by example i do belive it is better to leave you kid some space to grow but at the same time control them to a certain point
Wooooow fuck up mom. When are people going to learn that you can’t teach someone to do the right thing by being a dictator. A kid does something wrong you talk to them help them change their behavior willingly cuz otherwise as soon as parents don’t have control they WILL do whatever they want, but they also will not have the skills to restrain themselves for their own beliefs. parents also can’t control who their kids come in contact with or are friends with, they just have to do their best to prepare them for the real world and show that their always there to support and love them no matter what. Kids will most often rebel against authoritarian type treatment as well, so even if they wouldn’t have done something on their own, they do to feel like they have some kind of control. Any time a parent tries to change a kids behavior by being like that mom they only paint themselves as the bad guy and make it even less likely for kids to take anything they say to heart, or respect and love them at all.
So, chelles, your kid gets busted for drinking underage after wrecking the family car you’re going to give them a big hug and say, “tsk, tsk, don’t do that again please.”??? Good luck with that.
No, parents can’t control who their kids come in contact with, but they can put guidelines on who they hang out with.
If authoritarianism doesn’t work, how is it the military has functioned so well for so long?
Do you honestly think this woman is a dictator 24/7? I doubt it, but I bet she can drop the hammer when she needs to, like she’s done now. My kids know I’m a big cuddle, but mouth off to me and there’s a smack on the @ss coming.
@ Sam,
I’m sorry you had a bad day.
Based on your grammar you’re not a stupid person, but the truth is *** and this goes to anyone that doesn’t have kids yet *** you just won’t understand until you’re in that situation. I thought I knew everything I needed to know about being a parent and handling any situation thrown at me, I’m well educated, pretty high I.Q., decent parents as examples, what could go wrong… oh yeah, REALITY. I still don’t know it all and hope I never have to deal with a situation like the mom above is dealing with.
Breath deep, smile and just nod your head. They’ll either think you’re agreeing with them or you’re nuts. Either way it’s a win.
No but getting ” busted for drinking underage after wrecking the family car ” is a little more extreme than having friends who have drank. The fact is that pretty much everyone drinks or has drank at some point before they are 21. Thank you for bringing up the military, it only demonstrates my point. You say it has “functioned” yet if it was functioning what are we still doing in Iraq and Afghanistan, why are soldiers coming back with P.T.S.D. why is there war? The military may sometimes accomplish their set goals by brute force but it doesn’t make them right, and it doesn’t make the rest of the world agree with us. Just like we can’t make Iraqi’s agree and conform to our ideals by use of force we cannot make our children agree or conform by brute force. If we want to make change in Iraq then we have to allow Iraq to be Iraq and set up a government that works for them. Not destroy and ignore their culture, but show them by example what works, because we cannot stay their forever policing them. The military is authoritarian to soldiers also because they are working on dehumanizing them, and desensitizing them to the idea of killing another human being, not to be a healthy, productive person. Now to answer you, yes, If my kid was busted for drinking underage after wrecking the family car ” I would do whatever I could to win their hearts back because it is a question of their character or lack of information/judgment that had led to it, It would be greatly be my fault in that case. i wouldn’t publicly humiliate them or do anything that would make them see me as the enemy, as soon as you do that you’ve lost the war even if it’s just in that moment. What would I do? I do not know, I would be very angry, I’d feel like a failure, but what would I change by taking away their freedom? They would only be “obeying” to avoid consequence not because they know it is the right thing to do. And as for “mouth off to me and there’s a smack on the @ss coming” I would never lay a hand on my child like that, fear is no way to control someone, especially someone you should love. I do not hold my self in such high regard that I would not tolerate my child questioning something I have said, I am fallible, I would hear out what they have to say whatever they honestly think, then hope to change or correct their thoughts. Respect is earned and just being a parent does not excuse you from that, if you want your children to respect you show you are respectable. But you can do it your way chain up your kid gag em and say “YOU WILL RESPECT ME, YOU WILL LOVE ME. ” I promise it wont work. If a kid escapes that sort of upbringing and is a good happy successful person then bravo to the kid because it certainly wasn’t with the parents help.
WHAT CAN WE NOT DO A DAMN THING WITHOUT HAVING TO BRING UP THE F*ING WAR??? IF YOU ARE THAT SHALLOW IN TRYING TO MAKE A POINT THAT YOU HAVE TO BRING THAT UP, I DONT KNOW IT JUST PISSES ME OFF TALK ABOUT THE SUBJECT AT HAND AND NOT THE WAR. btw he did not say he did wreck the car, but if you do not stop the child from drinking or at least try then when he does make another bad decision to take that car it is your responsibility, so are you saying you would let your child drink whenever they want? but what happens when they become alcoholic? will you let them do drug? but what happens when they become an addict? will you let them have sex? what happens when they become pregnant? its fine to let them do the wrong things, but when the wrong things get them into trouble it is their faults and not the parents? wrong! it is both but it is the parents responsibility to teach the child right from wrong, so when they are given the temptations of these wrong things they can make the right choice, and me being a parent (retired teen) I know kids will do it, but you better damn well believe that if i were ever in a situation where I was not safe and needed a ride home I could call my mom. You can keep arguing the point with me, but seems to me, this is a parent/child war here. and no matter where it goes, it will never end.
You are misunderstanding my point if you think I was saying to do nothing, Of course you do. A lot of what you said goes along with what I was trying to say, but my point is that an iron fist, or hiding a child away from the real world is not the way to do it. The expression “give a man a fish, feed him for a day. teach a man how to fish, feed him for a life time.” is sorta what I’m getting at. You cannot always be there to snatch away every temptation a child has, you have to teach them to be able to hold back from them even when temptations are right there in front of them. There are some things in life that you do have to learn the hard way, it doesn’t mean just let kids do whatever. I also hate bringing the war into everything but it was brought up by someone else trying to make a counter-point which I simply tried to correct. The situations between the way our military works with other countries and towards our own is symbolic however of a parent child relationship, in the way I mentioned before. I also know the crashing the car was a hypothetical situation and I answered as such. I am glad you were able to depend on your parents when you got into bad situations, that is the type of thing I am trying to say should happen. Micheal’s mother would not seem to be the type of mother you could depend on in that kind situation. You wont confide in or trust a person to help if they are holding a proverbial ax over your head. I am done trying to get through to anyone however, because it will “never end” because some people will never change their ways, or try see reason.
Hey Chelles I was just saying I was mad about the whole war comment and not just by you by everyone on these damn interwebs lol, I wasn’t totally disagreeing with you either!
PSH. that mom can’t say shit. she can’t even spell “definitely” correct.
These comments are depressing. Does no one respect parents anymore?
Respect has to be earned. Snooping, threatening, and publically humiliating your son because his friends apparently got their hands on some alchohol is not the way to do that.
He was drinking the good Captain too you can be sure.Probably why he forgot to close Facebook.I love the way all the kids are going “Waaaah,I’m being oppressed”
I love the way you assume Michael was drinking too and that everyone who objects to his mom’s behavior must be a kid. I for one am an adult who remembers what it’s like to be a teenager. It’s sad how many here seem to have forgotten.
AAAAhaahahahahhahahahaha!!!! This is too damn funny! My mom would have done the same thing!
I feel like this is fake. All of those names are conspicuously common names, and I find it odd that there are two michaels and two Anthonys (antonio and anthony)
I must say go mom on this one. One thing no one has said on here is that he was doing something he wasn’t suppose to be doing, aka drinking. Now I am only infering that he is under age and that he was drinking but I firmly think that everything in life has consequences, weather they be good or bad. For minors privacy is a courtesy not a right, my mom respects my privacy but if she finds out I’ve done something I’m not suppose to be doing and that knows I know I’m not to be doing it I get punished, I hang my head take my punishment and move on.
I’m 16. My parents look at my profile now and then just to see what I’m up to. They understand that I complain about things they do sometimes; they were kids too. They don’t log in as me, but they just look. They trust me enough.
I don’t care if my parents look at my Facebook. I don’t have anything to hide. Those of you complaining about your parents reading your stuff obviously do.
There’s a fine line, though. You don’t post updates for the world to see to cause them to be humiliated. You don’t send messages to their friends pretending to be them. (she didn’t do that, but it’s an example). Deal with the problem face-to-face.
And then of course there’s those parents that are freaking crazy and have to know every aspect of their kids lives, which doesn’t do anything but make them resent you.
Bottom line? Do what you’re supposed to, and you’re parents won’t have to look at your facebook. And parents, chill the hell out sometimes.
However this situation should be handled, the public humiliation was a clear cut case of bad parenting.
Also, I noticed there are a few advocates of helicopter-parenting posting here. While it is important to know what is going on in your kid’s life, no amount of searching will stop them from doing something they want to do; they will just learn to hide things better. You would be amazed at some of the things kids can pull off when it comes to getting away with stuff.
That micro-managing helicopter approach is not the solution; the solution is to teach your kid to make the right decisions. I realize that can be really hard but taking away privacy and punishments will ultimately accomplish nothing. You don’t need to, nor should you, ban your kid from hanging aroung people who drink or might do bad things; you need to teach him how to handle those situations properly when they occur.
You should base your relationship on respect, not fear. You need to respect them like they need to respect you if you are going to raise a good kid.
Basically, you need to do the opposite of what this lady did when she humiliated him on his FB page.
The guys who are saying go mom are f**gots…if they were caught red-handed like that, bet they wouldn’t be laughin. And who leaves their s**t open that contains evidence that proves they’ve been consuming stuff like alcohol or whatnot? Haha dummy